NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2022-23 (part 5 - The Final-er MVP Countdown!)

[Wolfgang630]

Hopefully Jokic gets healthy for the playoffs. He didn’t look like right the last game. His movement was worse than I have seen since he got into shape.

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Yeah his injury was still bothering him in Houston. 1 seed is locked up. Shut it down.

[eyeatoma]

The man, the myth, the legend,

Maxamillion with the Embiid mixtape!

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[Sixerscan]

If Embiid doesn't win the chip this year or get to the finals, the same issues the media have about Jokic can all be said with Embiid. At least Jokic has been to a conference finals

I mean he's already been getting criticism for that and many other things for years but yeah sure.

Literally first words out of Stan Van Gundy’s mouth tonight before the game “reputations are made in the playoffs and Embiid and the Sixers have struggled in the playoffs” lol

[sircrocodile7]

I made an account a month ago, so I am finally here... As a greek, I am biased so there is that, but I have to make the argument why Jokic didnt deserve the MVP last year.
In my opinion a 6th seed MVP because of advanced stats was a disgrace quite frankly.
Lots of people tend to say that Jokic had more wins than the other candidates last year, but the real question is wins against whom ?!
Beating down tanking teams and getting the 6th seed isnt MVP worthy. Who had more wins against teams over 0.500 last year Jokic, Embiid or Giannis ? Everyone seems to forget this part of the equation. Why does it matter ? Well wins against non tanking teams define the tie breakers more than wins against tanking teams.
And no MVP voters should reward 6th seeds . And Perkins had a point, but he wasnt able to express it well quite frankly. There is obviously subconcious bias when it comes to race. I am quite confident that if Devin Booker was asian, he would have won the MVP over Jokic last year with his 65 wins. And same applies to Jokic and his 6th seed MVP win. I dont remember Kobe winning MVPs for taking a a bunch of nobodies to 45 wins. I dont remember CP3 getting an MVP for making the play offs with Dort lol.
None wants to admit it, but a 6th seed back to back MVP was a completely moronic decision.
So now they are giving it to Embiid, even if Jokic deserves it more to make up for the last year's idiocy.

[Cubbies2120]

I made an account a month ago, so I am finally here... As a greek, I am biased so there is that, but I have to make the argument why Jokic didnt deserve the MVP last year.
In my opinion a 6th seed MVP because of advanced stats was a disgrace quite frankly.

Jokic played in more wins than Embiid/Giannis last year. The fact that they had better seeding had more to do with their supporting casts and their teams playing well without them.

If you've been reading this forum for a while, you've seen how much Giannis fans were complaining about missing Khris for half the season.

Now imagine if they only had Jrue/Khris for a combined 9 games all season.

[kuclas]

I made an account a month ago, so I am finally here... As a greek, I am biased so there is that, but I have to make the argument why Jokic didnt deserve the MVP last year.
In my opinion a 6th seed MVP because of advanced stats was a disgrace quite frankly.

Jokic played in more wins than Embiid/Giannis last year. The fact that they had better seeding had more to do with their supporting casts and their teams playing well without them.

If you've been reading this forum for a while, you've seen how much Giannis fans were complaining about missing Khris for half the season.

Now imagine if they only had Jrue/Khris for a combined 9 games all season.

Embiid had way better winning percentage in games he played last season and had a higher seed even without his second best player missing for the first 58 games of the season. And embiid himself missed 9 straight games not due to physical injury but bad Covid.

Me personally. I didn’t think Jokic deserved mvp last season and embiid deserved it last season.

But I think Jokic or giannis deserve it over embiid THIS SEASON. Cause both are number 1 seeds although r Jokic team record is similar or same as embiid. Giannis team best record. That’s my opinion.

[NBA4Lyfe]

the worst part of all this is that white media voters who vote for jokic will be racially harrassed by casuals and fans on social media. The worst mistake was making the names of the voters and who they vote for public, its sad because this is probably jokics best season

[ken6199]

I made an account a month ago, so I am finally here... As a greek, I am biased so there is that, but I have to make the argument why Jokic didnt deserve the MVP last year.
In my opinion a 6th seed MVP because of advanced stats was a disgrace quite frankly.

Jokic played in more wins than Embiid/Giannis last year. The fact that they had better seeding had more to do with their supporting casts and their teams playing well without them.

If you've been reading this forum for a while, you've seen how much Giannis fans were complaining about missing Khris for half the season.

Now imagine if they only had Jrue/Khris for a combined 9 games all season.

Embiid had way better winning percentage in games he played last season and had a higher seed even without his second best player missing for the first 58 games of the season. And embiid himself missed 9 straight games not due to physical injury but bad Covid.

Me personally. I didn’t think Jokic deserved mvp last season and embiid deserved it last season.

But I think Jokic or giannis deserve it over embiid THIS SEASON. Cause both are number 1 seeds although r Jokic team record is similar or same as embiid. Giannis team best record. That’s my opinion.

To win the MVP you only need to perform in the last 1/4 of the season, with some "statement" games. Embiid did just enough to win this thing.

[AussieCeltic]

I made an account a month ago, so I am finally here... As a greek, I am biased so there is that, but I have to make the argument why Jokic didnt deserve the MVP last year.
In my opinion a 6th seed MVP because of advanced stats was a disgrace quite frankly.

Jokic played in more wins than Embiid/Giannis last year. The fact that they had better seeding had more to do with their supporting casts and their teams playing well without them.

If you've been reading this forum for a while, you've seen how much Giannis fans were complaining about missing Khris for half the season.

Now imagine if they only had Jrue/Khris for a combined 9 games all season.

Embiid had way better winning percentage in games he played last season and had a higher seed even without his second best player missing for the first 58 games of the season. And embiid himself missed 9 straight games not due to physical injury but bad Covid.

Me personally. I didn’t think Jokic deserved mvp last season and embiid deserved it last season.

But I think Jokic or giannis deserve it over embiid THIS SEASON. Cause both are number 1 seeds although r Jokic team record is similar or same as embiid. Giannis team best record. That’s my opinion.

The Nuggets had 3 less wins than Sixers/Bucks with guys like Campazzo, Will Barton, Jamychal Green, Davon Reed and Austin Rivers playing high minutes.

Those guys are either getting limited time on new teams now or not even in the league. Jokic deserved it last year over any other year. It was the biggest carry job in NBA history.

[CobraCommander]

The man, the myth, the legend,

Maxamillion with the Embiid mixtape!

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Instead of and1 I want to give you a TECH but I can’t find the button

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[DaFan334]

the worst part of all this is that white media voters who vote for jokic will be racially harrassed by casuals and fans on social media. The worst mistake was making the names of the voters and who they vote for public, its sad because this is probably jokics best season

Their votes aren't made public unless they do so. That said, I just found the good old spreasheet for this year here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KMzwRcilLDej0BWl7eYE_OYC9Tx9olI_Ptn-nHjKfpQ/edit#gid=643451732

[Bank Shot]

Embiid locking it up because of a tight home win against a team resting two starters is wild. Especially when you consider that his team is in the midst of a 3-5 stretch that includes a duck and a L against the other two contenders. Shows you how badly the media was dying to give it to him. The MVP version of the Marcus Smart DPOY.

[eyeatoma]

Embiid locking it up because of a tight home win against a team resting two starters is wild. Especially when you consider that his team is in the midst of a 3-5 stretch that includes a duck and a L against the other two contenders. Shows you how badly the media was dying to give it to him. The MVP version of the Marcus Smart DPOY.

Naw that's Jokic media begging to give it to him last year, with Zach Lowe and the Boston media mafia throwing hissy fits when they saw that Embiid was leading the straw poll last season. Jokic literally did the same thing people are complaining Embiid of doing. He turned it up post all star break with Embiid getting a few key losses. Just lol at the hypocrisy.

[Wolfgang630]

KD was my MVP when the season began. Guy is playing lights out. Would’ve been mvp if he didn’t get hurt.

[Cubbies2120]

Embiid locking it up because of a tight home win against a team resting two starters is wild. Especially when you consider that his team is in the midst of a 3-5 stretch that includes a duck and a L against the other two contenders. Shows you how badly the media was dying to give it to him. The MVP version of the Marcus Smart DPOY.

Naw that's Jokic media begging to give it to him last year, with Zach Lowe and the Boston media mafia throwing hissy fits when they saw that Embiid was leading the straw poll last season. Jokic literally did the same thing people are complaining Embiid of doing. He turned it up post all star break with Embiid getting a few key losses. Just lol at the hypocrisy.

"Jokic media begging" - Have you seen the media this year for Embiid? Sit down interviews of him having Jokic living rent free in his head, his coach constantly mentioning it to media, etc.

Jokic didn't change his game post - ASB last year, he shot .2 times more per game, just played more efficiently (61% shooting instead of 57%).

We're seeing what Jokic's team could have played like last year by their performance this year. Turns out having two max contract guys in jerseys rather than suits makes a difference.

I am glad that Embiid is winning MVP this year for one reason...he'll finally stop bitching to the media about it and have a reason to install a trophy case in his home

[eyeatoma]

Embiid locking it up because of a tight home win against a team resting two starters is wild. Especially when you consider that his team is in the midst of a 3-5 stretch that includes a duck and a L against the other two contenders. Shows you how badly the media was dying to give it to him. The MVP version of the Marcus Smart DPOY.

Naw that's Jokic media begging to give it to him last year, with Zach Lowe and the Boston media mafia throwing hissy fits when they saw that Embiid was leading the straw poll last season. Jokic literally did the same thing people are complaining Embiid of doing. He turned it up post all star break with Embiid getting a few key losses. Just lol at the hypocrisy.

"Jokic media begging" - Have you seen the media this year for Embiid? Sit down interviews of him having Jokic living rent free in his head, his coach constantly mentioning it to media, etc.

Jokic didn't change his game post - ASB last year, he shot .2 times more per game, just played more efficiently (61% shooting instead of 57%).

We're seeing what Jokic's team could have played like last year by their performance this year. Turns out having two max contract guys in jerseys rather than suits makes a difference.

I am glad that Embiid is winning MVP this year for one reason...he'll finally stop bitching to the media about it and have a reason to install a trophy case in his home

No not Jokic was begging the media. I call the NBA media all the Jokic media. 90% is pro jokic. Hence Jokic media.

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[Sixerscan]

Embiid locking it up because of a tight home win against a team resting two starters is wild. Especially when you consider that his team is in the midst of a 3-5 stretch that includes a duck and a L against the other two contenders. Shows you how badly the media was dying to give it to him. The MVP version of the Marcus Smart DPOY.

Well Embiid was leading the straw poll taken prior to the game, and he had a great game to clinch the 3 and Jokic played terribly against one of the worst teams in the league before Memphis lost to clinch him the 1 seed, now both guys are sitting out or playing token minutes in meaningless games. I guess you can say one game determined it, but I’m not sure what Jokic has done to flip the straw poll that said he was losing before said game. The Nuggets have also lost 4 of 5, 9 of 15.

[SA37]

The Nuggets have also lost 4 of 5, 9 of 15.

With regards to the last 5 games, Jokic only played in one of those games (loss to the Rockets).

[cam24thomas]

Will be so much fun if Jokic still wins MVP very exhilarating possibility.

[rzzzzz]

Will be so much fun if Jokic still wins MVP very exhilarating possibility.

Hey, he’s still #1 with Billy and the Ringer. Of course they got to prove their propriety by noting that Embiid is always getting closer. Kind of like the reverse Moore’s law, where Embiid’s improvement keeps halfing the amount that Jokic is better by. Until of course Tatum (or whatever Celtic) gets close enough.