Trade Discussion 22/23

[daoneandonly]

Common denominator is a thing. And the common denominator for the underperformed Bos BKN and Cle w/o Lebron, is Kyrie Irving

[fuller4379]

The thought of giving Kyrie a 4 year, max deal is frightening. Great talent but he doesn't seem to have the motivation to play anymore. He is going to have even less motivation when he has his money guaranteed for four years.

[ozwizard8]

The offense is ok with luka and kyrie. Its the defense that is bad. Which means 60% of your startinf lineup is useless.

If I were to point fingers, Bullock and Powell are uselless as hell. THJ ranks on a lower tier. But change Powell and Bullock to middle of the pack two way players (not even superstars), and i think the Mavs lineup should work better. Powell going for zero rebounds and when Bullock's shot is not falling, those are empty possessions. You need to at least have possessions where there is a positive and you get something out of it. When those two are off, they provide nothing.

Totally wrong.

It's Kyrie's fault if Powell can't defend or rebound, if Bullock shoots well 1 game every 5 and can't defend, if THJ has 0BBQI of course

It is Kyrie's fault that he makes this team smaller and shorter. He is a negative for rebounding. Him being small does not help defensive rotations either.

It is Kyrie's fault that it takes too many assets to trade for him. DFS-Dinwiddie gone. Having DFS was either helping boxing out or rebounding and that includes some help provided to Powell who I never liked.

It is Kyrie's fault that he is taking a supermax contract and does not let the team have other solid rotation bigs.

Having Kyrie made Mavs miserable on wing defense which affected centers to perform worse. Even Josh Green fall off a cliff after DFS-Dinwiddie is gone.

[ozwizard8]

Time to reset was when Luka was on rookie contract,instead they tried to make a big splash that didn't work...they made a move that later backfired,then they made some more dumb trades/signings/releases and now they are neck deep in the Sand...how do they get out of this mess?..they have some tough choices to make...Dallas is not a big free agent destination, they have no valuable assets and no capspace for next season...they gonna have to try getting some young (raw) Players and maybe take a flyer on some who underperformed...it's gonna be tough and if Kai leaves,next season could be without playoffs again

Kyrie is a big cancer that made a Luka team to miss playoffs and even play-in's.

Are you just trying to signal that you either don't watch the Mavs or something else...?

Ironically, the Mavs won 3 straight games when Luka was out. Beat the Lakers without Luka when he missed some other games.

No one that watches the games believes that "Kyrie made a Luka team miss the playoffs". It's just a ridiculous statement, usually written by folks who don't actually watch the games and are just writing based on Kyrie's history. Since this is the Mavs board, one would assume people watched the games... but what do I know.

Unfortunately, I watched Mavs games. Every team Kyrie goes to becomes toxic.
- Fans fight each other. The games becomes so depressing and fans hate it.
- Locker room becomes toxic. Most of the faces on the bench looked depressed.

Kyrie trade made this team 5th seed to 11th seed. Kyrie is supposed to be superstar who worth MAX contract and the players+picks given. His performance including both offense, defense, leadership, locker room chemistry is subpar.

I agree that having Kyrie on court is not net negative. I am not debating Kyrie is performing like FACU.
The problem is him not performing as great as advertised. Imagine if Mavs got Damian Lillard instead of Kyrie. I bet we would have +5 wins now. Dame has similar defensive defects but his offense simply worth it. He wouldn't take Memphis games off. He would win you games. He'd show leadership. For instance Mavs traded for Durant then defense and rebounding would not be this bad. The point is Kyrie no longer performing like a superstar player.

Kyrie's style of making tough shots on average efficiency does not generate WINS. He is not an impactful player for the Win column. Pre-Lebron Cavs were so miserable with Kyrie. Both Boston, Nets, Mavs performances are terrible.

[41Dirk41]

The offense is ok with luka and kyrie. Its the defense that is bad. Which means 60% of your startinf lineup is useless.

If I were to point fingers, Bullock and Powell are uselless as hell. THJ ranks on a lower tier. But change Powell and Bullock to middle of the pack two way players (not even superstars), and i think the Mavs lineup should work better. Powell going for zero rebounds and when Bullock's shot is not falling, those are empty possessions. You need to at least have possessions where there is a positive and you get something out of it. When those two are off, they provide nothing.

Totally wrong.

It's Kyrie's fault if Powell can't defend or rebound, if Bullock shoots well 1 game every 5 and can't defend, if THJ has 0BBQI of course

It is Kyrie's fault that he makes this team smaller and shorter. He is a negative for rebounding. Him being small does not help defensive rotations either.

It is Kyrie's fault that it takes too many assets to trade for him. DFS-Dinwiddie gone. Having DFS was either helping boxing out or rebounding and that includes some help provided to Powell who I never liked.

It is Kyrie's fault that he is taking a supermax contract and does not let the team have other solid rotation bigs.

Having Kyrie made Mavs miserable on wing defense which affected centers to perform worse. Even Josh Green fall off a cliff after DFS-Dinwiddie is gone.

I didn't know that Kyrie Irving was our GM. Thanks for the news

[Dirk]

Kyrie is a big cancer that made a Luka team to miss playoffs and even play-in's.

Are you just trying to signal that you either don't watch the Mavs or something else...?

Ironically, the Mavs won 3 straight games when Luka was out. Beat the Lakers without Luka when he missed some other games.

No one that watches the games believes that "Kyrie made a Luka team miss the playoffs". It's just a ridiculous statement, usually written by folks who don't actually watch the games and are just writing based on Kyrie's history. Since this is the Mavs board, one would assume people watched the games... but what do I know.

Unfortunately, I watched Mavs games. Every team Kyrie goes to become cancer.
- Fans fight each other. The games becomes so depressing and fans hate it.
- Locker room becomes toxic. Most of the faces on the bench looked depressed.

Kyrie trade made this team 5th seed to 11th seed. Kyrie supposed to be superstar who worth MAX contract and the players+picks given. His performance including both offense, defense, leadership, locker room chemistry is subpar.

I agree that having Kyrie on court is not net negative. I am not debating Kyrie is performing like FACU.
The problem is him not performing as great as advertised. Imagine if Mavs got Damian Lillard instead of Kyrie. I bet we would have +5 wins now. Dame has similar defensive defects but his offense simply worth it. He wouldn't take Memphis games off. He would win you games. He'd show leadership. If Mavs traded for Durant then defense and rebounding would not be this bad.

Kyrie's style of making tough shots on average efficiency does not generate WINS. He is not an impactful player for the Win column. Pre-Lebron Cavs were so miserable with Kyrie. Both Boston, Nets, Mavs performances are terrible.

I am genuinely confused.

Your history is all Knicks board. So I assume Knicks fan? Nothing against posting on the Mavs board, but it's kind of weird you're posting with such a passion.

- Kyrie has played fine in Dallas
- Other players went out of their way to praise him
- He hasn't created any drama
- He didn't hold a gun to the Mavs head to trade for him
- He didn't negotiate the terms of the deal

The Mavs sucked before the trade. They traded DFS who has sucked in Brooklyn, missed a ton of games this season for the Mavs and Dinwiddie who had a good season with the Mavs but was not a defender.

So like... can we actually talk about stuff that is "real" now? Has been real with the Mavs?

The Mavs are in a bad spot as it is and not a lot of positives to talk about. But there is no point bringing up "become cancer" as if it's something that happened with the Mavs or is happening. You can just do this on the General Board... where there are various Mavs related topics with loads of weird takes that blame Kyrie for the Mavs season.

Yes, all sorts of things may happen in the future. And it's totally fine to bring up the past and say he shouldn't be re-signed. But it's really nonsenical to fabricate stuff like "fans fighting", "he games becomes so depressing and fans hate it", ""ocker room becomes toxic. Most of the faces on the bench looked depressed" --- Kyrie isn't responsible for any of that with the Mavs.

You know Kyrie has been in Dallas for a minute, right? It's ludicrous for anyone who has followed his time with the Mavs to even suggest he is to blame. If you browse this board or Mavs social media, you'll notice fans aren't blaming Kyrie.Not even Luka only fans blame Kyrie. That should give you a hint --- so it'd be cool if at least out of respect for Mavs fans here... you wouldn't contribute to this ridiculous Kyrie obsession and narrative that hasn't been confirmed with the Mavs.

[41Dirk41]

So i was right... A lot of no mavs fan here.

Discovered another one

[arkuo]

He's probably a jew from New York. That would explain why they're always feeling persecuted. Pffft.

[ozwizard8]

Are you just trying to signal that you either don't watch the Mavs or something else...?

Ironically, the Mavs won 3 straight games when Luka was out. Beat the Lakers without Luka when he missed some other games.

No one that watches the games believes that "Kyrie made a Luka team miss the playoffs". It's just a ridiculous statement, usually written by folks who don't actually watch the games and are just writing based on Kyrie's history. Since this is the Mavs board, one would assume people watched the games... but what do I know.

Unfortunately, I watched Mavs games. Every team Kyrie goes to become cancer.
- Fans fight each other. The games becomes so depressing and fans hate it.
- Locker room becomes toxic. Most of the faces on the bench looked depressed.

Kyrie trade made this team 5th seed to 11th seed. Kyrie supposed to be superstar who worth MAX contract and the players+picks given. His performance including both offense, defense, leadership, locker room chemistry is subpar.

I agree that having Kyrie on court is not net negative. I am not debating Kyrie is performing like FACU.
The problem is him not performing as great as advertised. Imagine if Mavs got Damian Lillard instead of Kyrie. I bet we would have +5 wins now. Dame has similar defensive defects but his offense simply worth it. He wouldn't take Memphis games off. He would win you games. He'd show leadership. If Mavs traded for Durant then defense and rebounding would not be this bad.

Kyrie's style of making tough shots on average efficiency does not generate WINS. He is not an impactful player for the Win column. Pre-Lebron Cavs were so miserable with Kyrie. Both Boston, Nets, Mavs performances are terrible.

I am genuinely confused.

Your history is all Knicks board. So I assume Knicks fan? Nothing against posting on the Mavs board, but it's kind of weird you're posting with such a passion.

- Kyrie has played fine in Dallas
- Other players went out of their way to praise him
- He hasn't created any drama
- He didn't hold a gun to the Mavs head to trade for him
- He didn't negotiate the terms of the deal

The Mavs sucked before the trade. They traded DFS who has sucked in Brooklyn, missed a ton of games this season for the Mavs and Dinwiddie who had a good season with the Mavs but was not a defender.

So like... can we actually talk about stuff that is "real" now? Has been real with the Mavs?

The Mavs are in a bad spot as it is and not a lot of positives to talk about. But there is no point bringing up "become cancer" as if it's something that happened with the Mavs or is happening. You can just do this on the General Board... where there are various Mavs related topics with loads of weird takes that blame Kyrie for the Mavs season.

Yes, all sorts of things may happen in the future. And it's totally fine to bring up the past and say he shouldn't be re-signed. But it's really nonsenical to fabricate stuff like "fans fighting", "he games becomes so depressing and fans hate it", ""ocker room becomes toxic. Most of the faces on the bench looked depressed" --- Kyrie isn't responsible for any of that with the Mavs.

You know Kyrie has been in Dallas for a minute, right? It's ludicrous for anyone who has followed his time with the Mavs to even suggest he is to blame. If you browse this board or Mavs social media, you'll notice fans aren't blaming Kyrie.Not even Luka only fans blame Kyrie. That should give you a hint --- so it'd be cool if at least out of respect for Mavs fans here... you wouldn't contribute to this ridiculous Kyrie obsession and narrative that hasn't been confirmed with the Mavs.

I do not appreciate you making this personal. Another poster also 'accused' me of being Jewish. Seriously WTF? Debate on the arguments not the identity.

I used to be a Nets fan as I really like Kidd's playstyle. Followed him to Mavs, supported Mavs in Kidd years and the title run. (Always admired Dirk and Carlisle). Then I started to watch more Knicks games with Carmelo Anthony. Kidd also joined and I become a Knicks fan and joined the realGM. Most of my post history would be on Knicks forum. I still like to watch their games with Clyde and Breen. MSG is the best broadcast IMO. I followed the tanking years, Phil Jackson, rookie and All-Star KP years.

I am following Euroleague and was aware of Luka's first years in Madrid and their success. As he drafted to the league I started to watch more of Mavs games. Fizdale-Knicks and some fans supporting that GM-coach was not funny at all. I become a more of Mavs fan, also been in some games since then. Mavs sub on realGM is not active so I am not lurking too much here.

It was great to follow Luka and other young players becoming a core. Luka-Brunson-DFS-Seth-Kleber. Following their growth. Exciting addition of KP who I followed and supported at Knicks. You can call me a Luka fan or Mavs fan I do not mind. Unfortunately, Cuban's **** ups made me feel less closer to Mavs and I did not went to games while I had a Dallas trip in recent months.

This is who I am part. I do not think my arguments should be judged on who I am but here it is.

[ozwizard8]

- Kyrie has played fine in Dallas
- Other players went out of their way to praise him
- He hasn't created any drama
- He didn't hold a gun to the Mavs head to trade for him
- He didn't negotiate the terms of the deal

The Mavs sucked before the trade. They traded DFS who has sucked in Brooklyn, missed a ton of games this season for the Mavs and Dinwiddie who had a good season with the Mavs but was not a defender.

So like... can we actually talk about stuff that is "real" now? Has been real with the Mavs?

The Mavs are in a bad spot as it is and not a lot of positives to talk about. But there is no point bringing up "become cancer" as if it's something that happened with the Mavs or is happening. You can just do this on the General Board... where there are various Mavs related topics with loads of weird takes that blame Kyrie for the Mavs season.

Yes, all sorts of things may happen in the future. And it's totally fine to bring up the past and say he shouldn't be re-signed. But it's really nonsenical to fabricate stuff like "fans fighting", "he games becomes so depressing and fans hate it", ""ocker room becomes toxic. Most of the faces on the bench looked depressed" --- Kyrie isn't responsible for any of that with the Mavs.

You know Kyrie has been in Dallas for a minute, right? It's ludicrous for anyone who has followed his time with the Mavs to even suggest he is to blame. If you browse this board or Mavs social media, you'll notice fans aren't blaming Kyrie.Not even Luka only fans blame Kyrie. That should give you a hint --- so it'd be cool if at least out of respect for Mavs fans here... you wouldn't contribute to this ridiculous Kyrie obsession and narrative that hasn't been confirmed with the Mavs.

You ask to talk about 'real stuff' but also talking about how DFS playing Brooklyn. Like who cares about Brooklyn?

Mavs made WCF last season with its own Luka-Brunson-DFS-Kleber core. Dinwiddie gelled with them great. Shortcomings of Powell etc this team was not ready to make the next step but certainly deserved to run it back. Brunson definitely deserved $55m/4 year deal. And after Jazz series, Mavs should've beat the Knicks offer with $120m/4 year. Even that contract would be a bargain.

Luka is at his all time bad mentally. We all know he had worse times with mother's lawsuit which is streamlined earlier this year.
Cuban-Nico just sent his best pals away. Luka-Brunson was definitely a thing as they were constantly making jokes to each other. And admittedly Brunson being a winner and leader player, he was okay to be Robin for Luka's Batman.

How do you think a European, Balkan player to like Kyrie BS? How do you think working with flat-earther 'superstar'? Luka is clearly not liking the situation basketball-wise, and also chemistry-wise.

Kyrie TRADE is to blame. Kyrie's reputation is to blame. He is nowhere near that superstar level everyone talking to. He is no S.Curry or D.Lillard to makeup the defects. Only makes tough shots on average efficiency. He is not in Durant, Luka, Jokic etc level. And this is the Kyrie's best face to get 4-year max in the summer. It will go downhill from this.

I do not think I am the only Mavs or Luka fan that hated Kyrie trade and losing Brunson-DFS-Dinwiddie. I am not going to suck Cuban like some here does. If you like to keep the circlejerk, the echo-chamber, I'd advise for you to ban me.

[Archx]

Aside from that it is obvious that it is time to TRADE LUKA.
Literally HIGHEST MARKET for superstars. Teams trade 5 first-round picks and young assets for 30+years old players.
Mavs can get a solid young asset + 7 first round picks for Luka. An excellent way to rebuild very fast.

You call yourself a Luka fan and then call for a TOTAL rebuild by trading him? Even if you can get 7 picks for him, i hope you realize those picks are stretched over the years. Franchises without a superstar can be in a slump for over 10 years or more. What makes you think Mavs can just magically rebuild if they trade him? Sure, they could become a 1st round playoff team, or a fringe playoff contender but then what?

If you want to win a ring you need a superstar on your team. Last time, that i can i remember a team winning without a true superstar, was Detroit in 2004. But they had insane defense/rebounding and were really well coached. So all in all, Cuban needs to be smarter and let guys he hired do their jobs, instead of constantly interefering.

[ozwizard8]

Aside from that it is obvious that it is time to TRADE LUKA.
Literally HIGHEST MARKET for superstars. Teams trade 5 first-round picks and young assets for 30+years old players.
Mavs can get a solid young asset + 7 first round picks for Luka. An excellent way to rebuild very fast.

You call yourself a Luka fan and then call for a TOTAL rebuild by trading him? Even if you can get 7 picks for him, i hope you realize those picks are stretched over the years. Franchises without a superstar can be in a slump for over 10 years or more. What makes you think Mavs can just magically rebuild if they trade him? Sure, they could become a 1st round playoff team, or a fringe playoff contender but then what?

If you want to win a ring you need a superstar on your team. Last time, that i can i remember a team winning without a true superstar, was Detroit in 2004. But they had insane defense/rebounding and were really well coached. So all in all, Cuban needs to be smarter and let guys he hired to do their jobs, instead of constantly interefering.

Was this my reply to a some comment? I do not remember the full quote.

Full rebuild with 7 first-round pick and Chet Holmgren is an option. Sign&trade Kyrie and get 2 more picks? 2 years of tanking can led you draft two top 5 pick. No guarantee but its possible get sth with that many pick.

If you feel you want a quick rebuild, keep Kyrie (supposedly a superstar). Get 3 picks and RJ Barrett-Randle and young asset from Knicks. Kyrie-Green-RJ-Randle-Wood. +3 picks to find another disgruntled star that fits to Kyrie's timeline.

I am not saying 7 picks, Chet, and two years tanking is guarantee way to win title.
Not saying building around Kyrie is guarantees anything.
I think Luka-Mavs winning a title thing is gone. Contending teams are so loaded these days. More talent in the league. Mavs made wrong moves for last 3-4 years. Trading 1 or 2 future picks with no protection can only make Mavs into a playoff team if Kyrie resigns and stays mentally stable, and healthy.
Luka may get injured, may get worse behaviour-wise. Eventually he'll ask for a trade. IF he asks trade 1.5 years from now, Mavs will get back less with more future picks gone 'unprotected'.

[Archx]

Aside from that it is obvious that it is time to TRADE LUKA.
Literally HIGHEST MARKET for superstars. Teams trade 5 first-round picks and young assets for 30+years old players.
Mavs can get a solid young asset + 7 first round picks for Luka. An excellent way to rebuild very fast.

You call yourself a Luka fan and then call for a TOTAL rebuild by trading him? Even if you can get 7 picks for him, i hope you realize those picks are stretched over the years. Franchises without a superstar can be in a slump for over 10 years or more. What makes you think Mavs can just magically rebuild if they trade him? Sure, they could become a 1st round playoff team, or a fringe playoff contender but then what?

If you want to win a ring you need a superstar on your team. Last time, that i can i remember a team winning without a true superstar, was Detroit in 2004. But they had insane defense/rebounding and were really well coached. So all in all, Cuban needs to be smarter and let guys he hired to do their jobs, instead of constantly interefering.

Was this my reply to a some comment? I do not remember the full quote.

You were saying Kyrie is a cancer then proceeded with the idea of trading Doncic.

Full rebuild with 7 first-round pick and Chet Holmgren is an option. Sign&trade Kyrie and get 2 more picks? 2 years of tanking can led you draft two top 5 pick. No guarantee but its possible get sth with that many pick.

If you feel you want a quick rebuild, keep Kyrie (supposedly a superstar). Get 3 picks and RJ Barrett-Randle and young asset from Knicks. Kyrie-Green-RJ-Randle-Wood. +3 picks to find another disgruntled star that fits to Kyrie's timeline.

I am not saying 7 picks, Chet, and two years tanking is guarantee way to win title.
Not saying building around Kyrie is guarantees anything.

Sure, anything is possible, but it takes two to make a deal you know. It's hard to envision what OKC's plan is. And Mavs would probably want significant talent in return which OKC would obviously not want to give since they're slowly but surely on the rise.

I actually didn't like the Kyrie trade or i think i said i was 50/50 on it. Still Kyrie was good so far, saved some games for Mavs but i wouldn't keep him long term simply due to his injury related history of missing games. And 40M+ for him when this team needs other positions to fill out first, is simply too much in my opinion.

I think Luka-Mavs winning a title thing is gone. Contending teams are so loaded these days. More talent in the league. Mavs made wrong moves for last 3-4 years. Trading 1 or 2 future picks with no protection can only make Mavs into a playoff team if Kyrie resigns and stays mentally stable, and healthy.
Luka may get injured, may get worse behaviour-wise. Eventually he'll ask for a trade. IF he asks trade 1.5 years from now, Mavs will get back less with more future picks gone 'unprotected'.

Luka just turned 24 and signed a long term deal. MJ, Lebron, etc... didn't win until 27 and even them forced someones hand to become a championship team. MJ got lucky with Phil and Lebron forced his way to form a superteam. We simply have no clue what happens in the future.
The reason why Luka might bolt or whatever is because of incompetence that Cuban showed since the 2018 draft. And it actually already started during that season when they embarrassingly traded Barnes mid game. But i'm not sure he would want to do that after a year or two of his new contract.
He said he likes playing with Kyrie, so if Mavs do resign him, i would wait and see how this project turns out. I'm just afraid they'll be in similar situation next year, with the same braindead coach and horrible starting center.

[ozwizard8]

Full rebuild with 7 first-round pick and Chet Holmgren is an option. Sign&trade Kyrie and get 2 more picks? 2 years of tanking can led you draft two top 5 pick. No guarantee but its possible get sth with that many pick.

If you feel you want a quick rebuild, keep Kyrie (supposedly a superstar). Get 3 picks and RJ Barrett-Randle and young asset from Knicks. Kyrie-Green-RJ-Randle-Wood. +3 picks to find another disgruntled star that fits to Kyrie's timeline.

I am not saying 7 picks, Chet, and two years tanking is guarantee way to win title.
Not saying building around Kyrie is guarantees anything.

Sure, anything is possible, but it takes two to make a deal you know. It's hard to envision what OKC's plan is. And Mavs would probably want significant talent in return which OKC would obviously not want to give since they're slowly but surely on the rise.

I actually didn't like the Kyrie trade or i think i said i was 50/50 on it. Still Kyrie was good so far, saved some games for Mavs but i wouldn't keep him long term simply due to his injury related history of missing games. And 40M+ for him when this team needs other positions to fill out first, is simply too much in my opinion.

Other than SGA I think Presti can trade most of those players and picks for someone like Luka. Not getting SGA back suggest a full rebuild. Perhaps Jazz may give all TWolves picks, some of theirs. Total 7-8 picks and some swaps?
The funny thing is so-called rebuilding Jazz and Thunder have basically the same record as us.

Same thing for Knicks. They'll easily deal Randle, RJ and whatever picks. Leon Rose were not sold on D.Mitchell being that guy. Luka is definitely the star Knicks-Thibs needs.

I think Luka-Mavs winning a title thing is gone. Contending teams are so loaded these days. More talent in the league. Mavs made wrong moves for last 3-4 years. Trading 1 or 2 future picks with no protection can only make Mavs into a playoff team if Kyrie resigns and stays mentally stable, and healthy.
Luka may get injured, may get worse behaviour-wise. Eventually he'll ask for a trade. IF he asks trade 1.5 years from now, Mavs will get back less with more future picks gone 'unprotected'.

Luka just turned 24 and signed a long term deal. MJ, Lebron, etc... didn't win until 27 and even them forced someones hand to become a championship team. MJ got lucky with Phil and Lebron forced his way to form a superteam. We simply have no clue what happens in the future.
The reason why Luka might bolt or whatever is because of incompetence that Cuban showed since the 2018 draft. And it actually already started during that season when they embarrassingly traded Barnes mid game. But i'm not sure he would want to do that after a year or two of his new contract.
He said he likes playing with Kyrie, so if Mavs do resign him, i would wait and see how this project turns out. I'm just afraid they'll be in similar situation next year, with the same braindead coach and horrible starting center.

MJ got Pippen and tons of great role players. It would be like adding prime Kawhi to Luka's team. I don't think this will happen.

Lebron thing can happen for sure. Doncic leaving Mavs on free agency. Leaving empty-handed with unprotected picks given.

[Teffer10]

Players that should not be on this roster next season:

Hardaway
Powell
Ntilikina
Bertans

[arkuo]

Players that should not be on this roster next season:

Hardaway
Powell
Ntilikina
Bertans

Add Pinson.

[BeiBeau]

Classic Ozwizard moments bro

[BeiBeau]

So who we gonna trade for boys?

I like Capela and a top tier with my defender.

[41Dirk41]

OMG after the Lakers fan now we have the Nets one and the other who has MJ avatar

Is there any mavs fans left here????

So we tanked. That's it.
Good luck with the lottery

[arkuo]

So who we gonna trade for boys?

I like Capela and a top tier with my defender.

If the Hawks bounce out of the play in, they will make some changes for sure. Something to watch out for.