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2023 NBA Draft – Thurs, 8PM, June 22

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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#501 » by Hal14 » Sat Apr 8, 2023 4:02 pm

cl2117 wrote:
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Homerclease wrote:I’m looking to package whatever second we get along with Pritchard to move up for Derek Lively

I doubt anyone picking in the bottom of the 1st round wants Pritchard's $4 mil. He's negative value as it is, and the teams picking in 26th to 30th are Utah, Indiana, Charlotte and the Clippers, either lottery teams who have no use for a zero upside guy on the final year of his rookie contract or a team with 9 guards on the roster.

Zero chance Pritchard is viewed as negative value around the league.

Yeah. Before the deadline there were rumors that there were 4 teams interested in trading for him.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/top-stories/these-four-teams-reportedly-have-interest-in-trading-for-celtics-guard-payton-pritchard

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He probably has some trade value, but just not a lot. Just a little bit of trade value.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#502 » by BK_2020 » Sat Apr 8, 2023 4:17 pm

Hal14 wrote:
cl2117 wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:I doubt anyone picking in the bottom of the 1st round wants Pritchard's $4 mil. He's negative value as it is, and the teams picking in 26th to 30th are Utah, Indiana, Charlotte and the Clippers, either lottery teams who have no use for a zero upside guy on the final year of his rookie contract or a team with 9 guards on the roster.

Zero chance Pritchard is viewed as negative value around the league.

Yeah. Before the deadline there were rumors that there were 4 teams interested in trading for him.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/top-stories/these-four-teams-reportedly-have-interest-in-trading-for-celtics-guard-payton-pritchard

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He probably has some trade value, but just not a lot. Just a little bit of trade value.

Players poll is meaningless. They don't put any thought into these things. Just look at who the players vote for All-Star. Tyler Herro got 13 votes. Ben Simmons had 8. Killian Hayes, Ricky Rubio, Joe Harris, Alex Caruso all got multiple votes.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#503 » by MagicBagley18 » Sat Apr 8, 2023 4:38 pm

Hal14 wrote:
cl2117 wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:I doubt anyone picking in the bottom of the 1st round wants Pritchard's $4 mil. He's negative value as it is, and the teams picking in 26th to 30th are Utah, Indiana, Charlotte and the Clippers, either lottery teams who have no use for a zero upside guy on the final year of his rookie contract or a team with 9 guards on the roster.

Zero chance Pritchard is viewed as negative value around the league.

Yeah. Before the deadline there were rumors that there were 4 teams interested in trading for him.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/top-stories/these-four-teams-reportedly-have-interest-in-trading-for-celtics-guard-payton-pritchard

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He probably has some trade value, but just not a lot. Just a little bit of trade value.


That’s a parody account of legion hoops lol….it has 800 followers. One of the headlines there is “sources say luka is fat”

Doesn’t take much due diligence to see that
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#504 » by Hal14 » Sat Apr 8, 2023 6:09 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
cl2117 wrote:Zero chance Pritchard is viewed as negative value around the league.

Yeah. Before the deadline there were rumors that there were 4 teams interested in trading for him.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/top-stories/these-four-teams-reportedly-have-interest-in-trading-for-celtics-guard-payton-pritchard

And there was this:

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He probably has some trade value, but just not a lot. Just a little bit of trade value.


That’s a parody account of legion hoops lol….it has 800 followers. One of the headlines there is “sources say luka is fat”

Doesn’t take much due diligence to see that

I believe there were some other twitter accounts and media sources who reported the same thing about that poll.

And we're getting off track. This is the NBA draft thread. So going down some rabbit hole about a Pritchard post isn't really productive here.

My only point with regards to Pritchard is that he could have some trade value - since I also posted an article about 4 teams who were interested in trading for him at the deadline, that point stands - regardless of the other thing I posted.

Onward and upward :)
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#505 » by steefP2 » Sat Apr 8, 2023 6:32 pm

Hal14 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Yeah. Before the deadline there were rumors that there were 4 teams interested in trading for him.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/top-stories/these-four-teams-reportedly-have-interest-in-trading-for-celtics-guard-payton-pritchard

And there was this:

Read on Twitter


He probably has some trade value, but just not a lot. Just a little bit of trade value.


That’s a parody account of legion hoops lol….it has 800 followers. One of the headlines there is “sources say luka is fat”

Doesn’t take much due diligence to see that

There was a bunch of twitter accounts and media sources who reported the same thing about that poll.



Can you provide a link please ? Genuinely interested.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#506 » by MagicBagley18 » Sat Apr 8, 2023 7:12 pm

Hal14 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Yeah. Before the deadline there were rumors that there were 4 teams interested in trading for him.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/top-stories/these-four-teams-reportedly-have-interest-in-trading-for-celtics-guard-payton-pritchard

And there was this:

Read on Twitter


He probably has some trade value, but just not a lot. Just a little bit of trade value.


That’s a parody account of legion hoops lol….it has 800 followers. One of the headlines there is “sources say luka is fat”

Doesn’t take much due diligence to see that

I believe there were some other twitter accounts and media sources who reported the same thing about that poll.


Nice. Send em over I’d love to read it
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#507 » by steefP2 » Sat Apr 8, 2023 8:23 pm

Hal14 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Yeah. Before the deadline there were rumors that there were 4 teams interested in trading for him.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/top-stories/these-four-teams-reportedly-have-interest-in-trading-for-celtics-guard-payton-pritchard

And there was this:

Read on Twitter


He probably has some trade value, but just not a lot. Just a little bit of trade value.


That’s a parody account of legion hoops lol….it has 800 followers. One of the headlines there is “sources say luka is fat”

Doesn’t take much due diligence to see that

I believe there were some other twitter accounts and media sources who reported the same thing about that poll.

And we're getting off track. This is the NBA draft thread. So going down some rabbit hole about a Pritchard post isn't really productive here.



That's fine. You can dm me the links or post them in a more relevant thread. Very curious about this poll
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#508 » by MagicBagley18 » Sat Apr 8, 2023 8:27 pm

steefP2 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
That’s a parody account of legion hoops lol….it has 800 followers. One of the headlines there is “sources say luka is fat”

Doesn’t take much due diligence to see that

I believe there were some other twitter accounts and media sources who reported the same thing about that poll.

And we're getting off track. This is the NBA draft thread. So going down some rabbit hole about a Pritchard post isn't really productive here.



That's fine. You can dm me the links or post them in a more relevant thread. Very curious about this poll


Me too…pm me or link it. I love a good read and that’s interesting seeing how he could be moved this summer
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#509 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Apr 8, 2023 11:38 pm

From Tankathon:
"11 Second round is ordered by record without playoff consideration
12 Second round ties are in reverse order of the teams' first round picks"

In the event Rockets and Spurs end up with the same record, will there still be a drawing to determine who gets the 32nd pick and who gets the 33rd pick? Cos lottery odds are same for the three worst records. If pre-lottery, Houston gets the 2nd pick, Cs get the 33rd pick?
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#510 » by BostonCouchGM » Sun Apr 9, 2023 10:25 am

cl2117 wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:I’m looking to package whatever second we get along with Pritchard to move up for Derek Lively

I doubt anyone picking in the bottom of the 1st round wants Pritchard's $4 mil. He's negative value as it is, and the teams picking in 26th to 30th are Utah, Indiana, Charlotte and the Clippers, either lottery teams who have no use for a zero upside guy on the final year of his rookie contract or a team with 9 guards on the roster.

Zero chance Pritchard is viewed as negative value around the league.


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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#511 » by Trilogy25 » Sun Apr 9, 2023 7:21 pm

Go Mavericks to lock up #33 and avoid the coin flip!
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Post#512 » by Trilogy25 » Sun Apr 9, 2023 8:12 pm

DAL and POR both getting blown out right now.
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Post#513 » by playa-hater » Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:38 am

So I am still confused about where we will draft.. When will we need to do a coin flip?

Are we potentially getting pick 33rd and 35 or just one?
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Post#514 » by Bill Lumbergh » Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:54 am

playa-hater wrote:So I am still confused about where we will draft.. When will we need to do a coin flip?

Are we potentially getting pick 33rd and 35 or just one?

Just one. We either 33 from Houston, or 35 from Portland if Houston ends up with 32.
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Post#515 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:33 am

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playa-hater wrote:So I am still confused about where we will draft.. When will we need to do a coin flip?

Are we potentially getting pick 33rd and 35 or just one?

Just one. We either 33 from Houston, or 35 from Portland if Houston ends up with 32.

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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#516 » by Hal14 » Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:49 am

I'm assuming the coin flip between the rockets and spurs is tomorrow? Then we find out if we get pick 33 or 35.

I think at this point my 2 favorite targets are Clowney and Kris Murray. Good chance both of them are gone. But I feel like there's at least a somewhat realistic possibility that 1 of them is still there at 33.

Kris Murray's closest comp? Keegan Murray, who went 4th overall and has been the starting PF all year for the 3 seed Kings.

Kris is a better passer than keegan, too IMO.

If Kris is comparable to Keegan, how could he possibly fall to 33? Well, he's entering the draft a year older than Keegan did, he didn't quite put up the numbers (as a junior) that keegan put up (as a sophomore) and Kris' 3 pt % wasn't great this year.

But Kris' 3 pt % this season is deceiving IMO. Here's why..

2021-2022 season: 38.7% on 3.2 attempts per game
2022-2023 season before lower leg injury: 40.5% on 6 attempts per game
2022-2023 season after lower leg injury: 31.6% on 7 attempts per game

Before injury, both seasons combined: 39.2%
After injury: 31.6%

So when he's actually been healthy, he's been around a 39% shooter from 3. Right on par with his twin, Keegan.

Besides Keegan, who else is a comp for Kris? Jerami Grant, who some people on here have been wanting for us to go after. If Kris falls to us, we could get a guy who develops into something similar to Jerami Grant, on a cheap rookie contract.
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Post#517 » by BostonCouchGM » Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:54 am

whether we get #33 or #35 I think that's a perfect place to take Trayce Jackson-Davis. He's being mocked late 1st/early 2nd. He's exactly what we badly need which is a potential future starter down the road but immediate upgrade backing up Horford and Williams. If he's gone I'd want Jalen Wilson or Jordan Walsh to replace Grant Williams.
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Post#518 » by themoneyteam2 » Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:15 am

Homerclease wrote:I’m looking to package whatever second we get along with Pritchard to move up for Derek Lively


Lively sucks... And this is coming from someone who is in ACC country who watched pretty much every Duke game. Had one great game vs UNC where he started to garner more hype but does nothing on offense, has basketball IQ, and is only a good weak side shot blocker in spurts.

Hard, hard pass on him. And he'll also be going in the 20s because a team will be dumb enough to take him based on "potential" and him being a footer who is athletic.
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Post#519 » by themoneyteam2 » Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:17 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:whether we get #33 or #35 I think that's a perfect place to take Trayce Jackson-Davis. He's being mocked late 1st/early 2nd. He's exactly what we badly need which is a potential future starter down the road but immediate upgrade backing up Horford and Williams. If he's gone I'd want Jalen Wilson or Jordan Walsh to replace Grant Williams.


TJD can't play defense and also can't shoot but he was a great college player. Not sure about the fit in NBA with the switching defense and needing a big man to be a floor spacer, especially when you're not a 7 footer.
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Post#520 » by BostonCouchGM » Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:15 am

themoneyteam2 wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:whether we get #33 or #35 I think that's a perfect place to take Trayce Jackson-Davis. He's being mocked late 1st/early 2nd. He's exactly what we badly need which is a potential future starter down the road but immediate upgrade backing up Horford and Williams. If he's gone I'd want Jalen Wilson or Jordan Walsh to replace Grant Williams.


TJD can't play defense and also can't shoot but he was a great college player. Not sure about the fit in NBA with the switching defense and needing a big man to be a floor spacer, especially when you're not a 7 footer.


you might be right. Though he does have a lot of energy and is adept at diving in the PnR. With similar size to Timelord he'd be a good backup for him. Timelord doesn't shoot either. I just love TJD's demeanor and competitiveness. Maybe they could turn him into a shooter like they did Theis and Baynes. I'm really just concerned with the fact we likely lose Muscala, Kornet, Gallo after next season and we need some big depth in case that happens. I don't care if it's TJD or Gueye, I just want some athletic size to groom behind Horford

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