ImageImage

Shaedon Sharpe

Moderators: DeBlazerRiddem, Moonbeam

Dnt hate
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,718
And1: 899
Joined: Jun 14, 2016

Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#1 » by Dnt hate » Mon Mar 6, 2023 3:00 am

Try to be as unbiased as possible.
What do you think about Sharpe?
What is his ceiling?
I think Thynulle next to Lillard is a great fit, how does Sharpe fit with them for the near future?
User avatar
PDXKnight
RealGM
Posts: 26,097
And1: 3,082
Joined: May 29, 2007
Location: Portland
   

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#2 » by PDXKnight » Mon Mar 6, 2023 4:57 am

I think sharpe is a great offensive fit going forward, he has some defensive upside won't be a lockdown defender but maybe a decent 2 way player. I imagine offense will be his strength and next to anf or dame he's a much better fit than dame anf In one back court
ESP
Freshman
Posts: 68
And1: 22
Joined: Mar 02, 2023

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#3 » by ESP » Thu Mar 9, 2023 10:27 pm

Def all star potential.. I think blazers are going to bring him along slowly .. might be a 6th man for couple seasons and eventually take the starting backcourt with simons as pg. his mid range and 3 point could become elite and once he learns control during inside drives and get to line that’s going to really take him to another level. Have a lot to work on passing and handles … the only real negatives I can see right now
BlazersBroncos
RealGM
Posts: 12,273
And1: 9,817
Joined: Oct 27, 2016

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#4 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Mar 9, 2023 10:43 pm

His body control is absurd, which shows not only in hanging at the rim but also showing from 3 and getting into a spot for a midranged J with his body totally squared to the hoop. Tons of scoring potential, but he is limited to a guy that feeds off others a bit unless he significantally improves his vision and to a lesser extend handle.

Has all the tools in the world to be a lock down defender but that side is more awareness and, more than anything, will.

I think PDX should use Cam / Thybulle as the stopgap starter w/ SS as the 6th man and eventual starter while moving on from Simons - but not sure what F or C Ant could return.
User avatar
Pattycakes
General Manager
Posts: 8,542
And1: 2,145
Joined: Nov 01, 2005
Contact:
     

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#5 » by Pattycakes » Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:03 pm

I believe if you look at him like a project Ala rookie Anfernee you can really see his true potential more: which for the record I think it much higher than present Anfernee, I see him shooting like Ant but with actual supplementary gifts and scoring abilities.
Somewhere trying not to offend Texas Chuck.
zzaj
General Manager
Posts: 8,944
And1: 3,523
Joined: Jul 12, 2006
 

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#6 » by zzaj » Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:32 am

Probably a different player, but right now he's comping pretty close to DeMar Derozan--almost eerily so in some areas. Obviously, it would be a boon for the Blazers if Sharpe's career continues the same way Derozan's has.

https://stathead.com/tiny/mLGN1

I'll play devils advocate a little bit...
If the idea is 3 years down the line to have Sharpe eventually become the first or second option? I'm just not seeing it in terms of Fire or complete play. Even quieter Alpha players like Roy still had a presence that was palpable, OR his BBIQ was so high he would maneuver ways to win without being the "guy". I don't see those qualities in Sharpe. He tends to be passive and drift through stretches, and so far hasn't shown enough of a complete game to indicate that he can be the tone-setter, "do the little things and lead by example" type.

Now, when he flashes? It's among the best the league has to offer. But he's going to have to become THAT player for most of a game not just one or two moments a night, if the Blazers plan on him being their cornerstone down the road.

Now before I get too well flamed, I'll point out that I WANT Sharpe to become the player we all hope he will be. I sincerely hope that this post doesn't age well--and sooner rather than later.
The Sebastian Express
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 18,385
And1: 11,551
Joined: Dec 10, 2004

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#7 » by The Sebastian Express » Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:28 am

But Roy was also three years older and had all his time in college. He also came in as the unquestioned second option, where Sharpe is regulated to the bench and is playing 20ish minutes a game often as the third or fourth option on the floor.

I don't think it's a comparable situation because of the stark differences between their circumstances. I also don't think Shaedon is helped by how effortless everything looks for him on the court. He's so fluid and smooth, while being so young. I see how he gets fired up when he blocks people or dunks on them. I think that competitive fire is there, it might just not show itself in ways other people are.

He might just be a quiet kid who still has that fire in him.
zzaj
General Manager
Posts: 8,944
And1: 3,523
Joined: Jul 12, 2006
 

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#8 » by zzaj » Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:01 am

The Sebastian Express wrote:But Roy was also three years older and had all his time in college. He also came in as the unquestioned second option, where Sharpe is regulated to the bench and is playing 20ish minutes a game often as the third or fourth option on the floor.

I don't think it's a comparable situation because of the stark differences between their circumstances. I also don't think Shaedon is helped by how effortless everything looks for him on the court. He's so fluid and smooth, while being so young. I see how he gets fired up when he blocks people or dunks on them. I think that competitive fire is there, it might just not show itself in ways other people are.

He might just be a quiet kid who still has that fire in him.


The point of my post wasn't to compare Sharpe and Roy...they are clearly very different players, and indeed that would be an apples to oranges comparison.
User avatar
monopoman
RealGM
Posts: 12,590
And1: 6,415
Joined: Nov 11, 2009
     

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#9 » by monopoman » Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:52 am

I think Sharpe has more potential than a DeRozan, now we have no idea if he will hit that level of potential until he is say 5-6 years in the league at least. For a 19 year old rookie I am blown away at how well he looks out there most of the time. If I watched footage of Sharpe and didn't know who he was or how old he was I would think he was at least a few years in the league based on most of that.

Is he still a work in progress? Of course he is, like almost all 19 year old players, but my point is he has more potential than almost every other under 20 player in the league.

Obviously his prime won't be here for likely 6-7 years at the very least, so he is a bit of a wild card until then but I think he would be far more impressive if given a bigger role on day 1 and more minutes. A way to jump start a players development is throw them into the deep end immediately like Dame. Obviously this team is trying to win games though so giving Sharpe 30+ MPG as a starter is not really viable for now but just saying that typically accelerates the process.
BlazersBroncos
RealGM
Posts: 12,273
And1: 9,817
Joined: Oct 27, 2016

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#10 » by BlazersBroncos » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:54 pm

He has the same 'doesnt even look like he is trying' body language as T-Mac - it doesnt necessarily mean he is coasting, some guys just come off like that. Ingram is another.

I have seen little in the way of creating for others, which is what seperates a elite scorer from an elite player IMO. I think the most likely scenario for SS is a J-Rich caliber career, which is to say really good but not an All Team type. Dont get me wrong, he has the talent to be much better but I think Richardson caliber is the middle, most likely ground. He is too talented to not be a 20ppg guy, but that doesnt mean as much if your not also a great defender and can create for others. It means alot, just not as much.
zzaj
General Manager
Posts: 8,944
And1: 3,523
Joined: Jul 12, 2006
 

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#11 » by zzaj » Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:02 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:He has the same 'doesnt even look like he is trying' body language as T-Mac - it doesnt necessarily mean he is coasting, some guys just come off like that. Ingram is another.

I have seen little in the way of creating for others, which is what seperates a elite scorer from an elite player IMO. I think the most likely scenario for SS is a J-Rich caliber career, which is to say really good but not an All Team type. Dont get me wrong, he has the talent to be much better but I think Richardson caliber is the middle, most likely ground. He is too talented to not be a 20ppg guy, but that doesnt mean as much if your not also a great defender and can create for others. It means alot, just not as much.


"coasting", at least in my brain means taking plays off in order to conserve for other parts of the game--usually offense. I don't really see that in Sharpe either. What I DO see is him ball watching quite often (easy to do with Lillard and Ant Isos), and generally seeming a little bit lost defensively...which is to be expected of somebody his age and without college ball. He'll need to assert himself more often as experience and opportunity comes his way, if he wants to turn out to be the player we all hope he'll be. Even T-Mac had a career USG of 29.3%. Sharpe through probably no fault of his own is currently about 16%.

Again, the Blazers would LOVE to have Sharpe end up with the career of a Richardson or a DeRozan. I personally want to see him surpass that...
User avatar
monopoman
RealGM
Posts: 12,590
And1: 6,415
Joined: Nov 11, 2009
     

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#12 » by monopoman » Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:40 am

At least he doesn't fall into the trap that many rookies or young players do where they go out there and try to do too much. We have seen this problem before, a player that has a lot of talent or wants to showcase how good they are, but in the process makes himself look worse.

I'd rather see him focus on what he can do to help a team win before trying to go out there and showcase his abilities.
DaVoiceMaster
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 21,035
And1: 2,359
Joined: Sep 26, 2003
Contact:
   

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#13 » by DaVoiceMaster » Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:21 pm

monopoman wrote:At least he doesn't fall into the trap that many rookies or young players do where they go out there and try to do too much. We have seen this problem before, a player that has a lot of talent or wants to showcase how good they are, but in the process makes himself look worse.

I'd rather see him focus on what he can do to help a team win before trying to go out there and showcase his abilities.


I would like to see CB run a few plays for Sharpe. They don't seem to do much with him other than stick him in a corner. "Nobody puts Baby in the corner!"
DaVoiceMaster
Senior Mod - Trail Blazers
12/27/2017 - 01/03/2018
HoopsFanAZ
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,482
And1: 378
Joined: Jun 16, 2008

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#14 » by HoopsFanAZ » Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:24 pm

Shaedon Sharpe as an all star would not be surprising. Work ethic is key. Driven?
The reality I’d like to know is how long until his D is strong enough that he’s the starting SG? The 3rd option?
How long until he’s the 2nd option?
Will he become a high- to elite-level, 2-way player? [The baby Kobe references … ]
BNM
Analyst
Posts: 3,556
And1: 4,296
Joined: Jun 28, 2016

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#15 » by BNM » Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:53 pm

DaVoiceMaster wrote:I would like to see CB run a few plays for Sharpe. They don't seem to do much with him other than stick him in a corner. "Nobody puts Baby in the corner!"


Flawed logic. You assume Chauncey is actually capable of running plays.
User avatar
Shem
RealGM
Posts: 15,605
And1: 3,504
Joined: Dec 15, 2009
     

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#16 » by Shem » Sat Apr 8, 2023 2:03 am

Check this bio video about him:

April 4, 2014:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:I never said Dallas was good as Portland


Earlier on December 8, 2013:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:That's the Whole Point Portland is No better than Dallas
User avatar
JasonStern
RealGM
Posts: 12,181
And1: 4,255
Joined: Dec 13, 2008
 

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#17 » by JasonStern » Sat Apr 8, 2023 3:24 am

Dnt hate wrote:Try to be as unbiased as possible.
What do you think about Sharpe?
What is his ceiling?
I think Thynulle next to Lillard is a great fit, how does Sharpe fit with them for the near future?


I can't be unbiased. I was hoping the Blazers drafted him well before the draft. I am a huge fanboy. Barring some insane injuries - Floor is Darius Miles. Ceiling is Vince Carter. Elite athleticism. Now it's just a matter of translating that into someone capable of playing NBA basketball at modern NBA speeds.
I don't have a cool avatar image because Dame came home.

"Hate all you want. The Bucks will trade Doc Rivers for me."
- Chauncey Billups
will
RealGM
Posts: 52,083
And1: 50,740
Joined: Jan 08, 2006
Location: Pat's Homestyle Jamaican Restaurant. Shouts to Sheryl's Caribbean Cuisine
Contact:
         

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#18 » by will » Sat Apr 8, 2023 12:26 pm

I cannot wait to see what Simons and Shape do next season.

Surely at some point...something has to give with Dame. Love the guy, however I cannot help but think the Blazers may be better off without him or at least dealing him so the franchise can move forward.
User avatar
DusterBuster
RealGM
Posts: 35,748
And1: 21,452
Joined: Jan 31, 2010
   

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#19 » by DusterBuster » Sat Apr 8, 2023 11:24 pm

This dude is still only 19 years old. To put up these kind of numbers consistently, even on a tanking team, is no small feet.
Get ready to learn Chinese buddy... #YangBang
DeBlazerRiddem
Forum Mod - Blazers
Forum Mod - Blazers
Posts: 14,594
And1: 6,588
Joined: Mar 11, 2010

Re: Shaedon Sharpe 

Post#20 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Sat Apr 8, 2023 11:45 pm

I also think Shaedon has good sized feet which really helps him with the jumping stuff. But I think it goes deeper than that, he has good sized hands as well. He is incredibly well rounded for not being very round at all.

:P

In all seriousness though, what he is doing is just not normal for a rookie, let alone a 19 year old rookie. He has had the poise and confidence that reminds me of polished 4 year players like Roy and Lillard. Sky is the limit, don't know what else to say.

Return to Portland Trail Blazers