Around the NBA, 2022-23 season

[zero24gravity]

RE: collective bargaining agreement

I am happy there won't be a work stoppage, so kuddos they got this done.

The second cap apron seems like a good idea. I like that they are keeping high school kids out of the draft. The 65 game minimum for annual awards is much-needed. (Although I expect to see someone try and play 1 minute token game(s) toward the end of the season, if they are shy of 65 games played.) But the in-season tournament is the most useless & stupid idea I've ever heard of.

There's more to it, and I feel this article wraps it up nicely.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/36025332/nba-nbpa-agree-new-7-year-collective-bargaining-agreement

[Inigo Montoya]

I haven't dug into the new CBA but I don't like what I see (and don't see) so far. I haven't seen any change to the lottery system even though we can all see there is still plenty of tanking. As far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't mind if all the teams that miss the playoffs will have the exact same chance to win. This will completely remove the incentive to tank.

I also don't like that now players are able to invest in NBA teams. Doesn't it constitute a conflict of interest? Imagine an active player for Team A is invested in Team B and if Team B win they make the playoffs (which means more revenues and more income). Wouldn't it be in the player's best interest to not play his best in that game? At the very least, there is a very clear perception of a conflict of interest.

I do like they put a minimum of games played to qualify for certain awards but as a whole, so far it doesn't look like it's making things better.

[red4hf]

I don't get why everyone is hating on the tournament...... I like the idea.......

[Inigo Montoya]

I don't get why everyone is hating on the tournament...... I like the idea.......

What is the purpose of the tournament? What added value does it bring to fans? What are the stakes? There are none, other than more money to the players. Why should fans care?

If they wanted to make it interesting to fans, one option would be money for the players (as it is now, for their motivation), and something like a 5%-10% better chances to win the lottery. And if the winning team is not going to be in the lottery, winning the tournament moves the winning team up 5 spots, up to the 15th pick.

[red4hf]

I don't get why everyone is hating on the tournament...... I like the idea.......

What is the purpose of the tournament? What added value does it bring to fans? What are the stakes? There are none, other than more money to the players. Why should fans care?

If they wanted to make it interesting to fans, one option would be money for the players (as it is now, for their motivation), and something like a 5%-10% better chances to win the lottery. And if the winning team is not going to be in the lottery, winning the tournament moves the winning team up 5 spots, up to the 15th pick.

Winning a trophy is decent motivation.......

[Inigo Montoya]

I don't get why everyone is hating on the tournament...... I like the idea.......

What is the purpose of the tournament? What added value does it bring to fans? What are the stakes? There are none, other than more money to the players. Why should fans care?

If they wanted to make it interesting to fans, one option would be money for the players (as it is now, for their motivation), and something like a 5%-10% better chances to win the lottery. And if the winning team is not going to be in the lottery, winning the tournament moves the winning team up 5 spots, up to the 15th pick.

Winning a trophy is decent motivation.......

But it's a made up trophy that means nothing. The actual achievement is winning a championship. Now the NBA made up a trophy that teams get mid-season. Would a team call a season a success if they won this trophy? Even if they didn't make the playoffs? The only motivation is maybe for the players and coaches because they get more money for it but I don't see why fans should care.

[zero24gravity]

What is the purpose of the tournament? What added value does it bring to fans? What are the stakes? There are none, other than more money to the players. Why should fans care?

If they wanted to make it interesting to fans, one option would be money for the players (as it is now, for their motivation), and something like a 5%-10% better chances to win the lottery. And if the winning team is not going to be in the lottery, winning the tournament moves the winning team up 5 spots, up to the 15th pick.

Winning a trophy is decent motivation.......

But it's a made up trophy that means nothing. The actual achievement is winning a championship. Now the NBA made up a trophy that teams get mid-season. Would a team call a season a success if they won this trophy? Even if they didn't make the playoffs? The only motivation is maybe for the players and coaches because they get more money for it but I don't see why fans should care.

The in-season tournament could arrive as soon as the 2023-24 season. The event will include pool-play games baked into the regular-season schedule starting in November -- with eight teams advancing to a single-elimination tournament in December. The Final Four will be held at a neutral site, with Las Vegas prominent in the discussion, sources said.

So the consequence for these 8 qualifying teams playing well enough to get into the tournament, is they go get to play a harder schedule that counts in the standings??? And the motivator is the winner gets a meaningless trophy and money (as a fan, I'm not interested in NBA players getting paid even more)??? I can't think of a worse idea. Seriously. Raising that banner in the rafters would be embarrassing. It's not a meaningful accomplishment, so what's the point?

And while I'm venting... the play-in is also horrible, and should only be applicable if teams are within a couple games in the standings of each other. The potential that a 45 win 7th seed could lose a playoff spot to a 35 win 10th seed, base on 2 games, is ridiculous, and I don't think for 1 minute it's slowing tanking.

Oh, and why the F can't they get rid of the East/West when it comes to All Star selections and playoff qualifiers? If 20 of the best players are in one conference, they should all be All-Stars. If 10 of the top 16 teams are in one conference, why do they not all get to be in the playoffs? These changes would actually make a lot more sense than a silly tournament, IMO.

Signed - The NBA Grinch.

[red4hf]

What is the purpose of the tournament? What added value does it bring to fans? What are the stakes? There are none, other than more money to the players. Why should fans care?

If they wanted to make it interesting to fans, one option would be money for the players (as it is now, for their motivation), and something like a 5%-10% better chances to win the lottery. And if the winning team is not going to be in the lottery, winning the tournament moves the winning team up 5 spots, up to the 15th pick.

Winning a trophy is decent motivation.......

But it's a made up trophy that means nothing. The actual achievement is winning a championship. Now the NBA made up a trophy that teams get mid-season. Would a team call a season a success if they won this trophy? Even if they didn't make the playoffs? The only motivation is maybe for the players and coaches because they get more money for it but I don't see why fans should care.

I disagree, it's the same reason teams care about the FA Cup in the English leagues...... Most teams will never sniff the Premier League title, but they can still get a trophy.......

[Inigo Montoya]

The in-season tournament could arrive as soon as the 2023-24 season. The event will include pool-play games baked into the regular-season schedule starting in November -- with eight teams advancing to a single-elimination tournament in December. The Final Four will be held at a neutral site, with Las Vegas prominent in the discussion, sources said.

So the consequence for these 8 qualifying teams playing well enough to get into the tournament, is they go get to play a harder schedule that counts in the standings??? And the motivator is the winner gets a meaningless trophy and money (as a fan, I'm not interested in NBA players getting paid even more)??? I can't think of a worse idea. Seriously. Raising that banner in the rafters would be embarrassing. It's not a meaningful accomplishment, so what's the point?

And while I'm venting... the play-in is also horrible, and should only be applicable if teams are within a couple games in the standings of each other. The potential that a 45 win 7th seed could lose a playoff spot to a 35 win 10th seed, base on 2 games, is ridiculous, and I don't think for 1 minute it's slowing tanking.

Oh, and why the F can't they get rid of the East/West when it comes to All Star selections and playoff qualifiers? If 20 of the best players are in one conference, they should all be All-Stars. If 10 of the top 16 teams are in one conference, why do they not all get to be in the playoffs? These changes would actually make a lot more sense than a silly tournament, IMO.

Signed - The NBA Grinch.

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[red4hf]

Gobert sucker-punching a teammate the last game of the season...... WTF......

[AingesBurner]

Gobert sucker-punching a teammate the last game of the season...... WTF......

That’s not a sucker punch but more like a love tap. I have never liked Anderson because he’s an instigator and look what team he came from.

[Inigo Montoya]

CJ McColllum gives away the game. Edwards owns him in the clutch. Missing layups, get blocks, turns the ball over, misses free throws. Damn.

[Inigo Montoya]

Gobert sucker-punching a teammate the last game of the season...... WTF......

That’s not a sucker punch but more like a love tap. I have never liked Anderson because he’s an instigator and look what team he came from.

That's not a love tap. Seeing this, I can see why the Jazz had such bad chemistry last season.

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[Inigo Montoya]

Timberwolves Send Rudy Gobert Home After He Punched Kyle Anderson
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/271113/Timberwolves-Send-Rudy-Gobert-Home-After-He-Punched-Kyle-Anderson

[Inigo Montoya]

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[Inigo Montoya]

So...the Blazers just lost by 56 points at home. Frankly, I think they deserve it.

[red4hf]

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Damn........

[red4hf]

Gobert sucker-punching a teammate the last game of the season...... WTF......

That’s not a sucker punch but more like a love tap. I have never liked Anderson because he’s an instigator and look what team he came from.

That's not a love tap. Seeing this, I can see why the Jazz had such bad chemistry last season.

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Prince appeared too be going at Rudy as well..... Something's going on there.......

[AingesBurner]

That’s not a sucker punch but more like a love tap. I have never liked Anderson because he’s an instigator and look what team he came from.

That's not a love tap. Seeing this, I can see why the Jazz had such bad chemistry last season.

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Prince appeared too be going at Rudy as well..... Something's going on there.......

That team has problems. Again, look at what team Anderson came from.

[Cappy_Smurf]

That's not a love tap. Seeing this, I can see why the Jazz had such bad chemistry last season.

Gobert's problem as that he hates losing and gets grumpy when other players don't take it as seriously as he does.

But if people want players that are joking and laughing as they get their ass handed to them, then by all means.

The Jazz team I watched over Gobert's time in Utah was one that looked like a joke whenever Rudy was out. Rudy was the reason for any success Utah had over those years. I certainly wouldn't blame chemistry issues on the one guy who hated losing and took offense when others were okay with it.