Best Playoff Performer in the 2020s?

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Who is better to date and who do you expect going forward?

Tatum to Date
2
3%
Jokic to Date
6
10%
Embiid to Date
0
No votes
Luka to Date
3
5%
Giannis to Date
24
40%
Tatum Going Forward
2
3%
Jokic Going Forward
12
20%
Embiid Going Forward
0
No votes
Luka Going Forward
3
5%
Giannis Going Forward
8
13%
 
Total votes: 60

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Best Playoff Performer in the 2020s? 

Post#1 » by Triple M » Sun Apr 9, 2023 8:16 am

The 2010s were about the playoff performances from LeBron, Curry, Durant, Kawai. For the 2020s im interested in how people view the 2020s stars playoffs performances so far and who do you expect to have the better resume by the end of the decade. I realize it is difficult to project whats going to happen in a few weeks much less years, for example if this question was asked in April 2013 it would be difficult to foresee the Warriors dynasty was going to be ahead us. Nevertheless i would be interested in seeing how these stars are viewed as of now and if you can project them going forward
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Post#2 » by ardee » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:25 am

Well, it's only 3 Playoffs so far, and it's between Jokic, Giannis and Butler.

Giannis and Butler had two spectacular runs and one subpar one. Jokic was great all three but didn't make it as far as the other did.

Giannis seems like the most logical answer so I'll go with him. Going forward it's a pick 'em between him and Jokic.
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Post#3 » by MyUniBroDavis » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:33 am

Giannis > Butler > Luka > Jokic > Tatum right now

Throughout the 2020s, I think

Giannis > Luka = Jokic > Tatum > Butler, butlers old lmao

2022 Jimmy was different though
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Post#4 » by rk2023 » Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:37 pm

Giannis to date. That was my pick/guess going forward too. I’d be very open to considering Jokic should my view positively change regarding his playoff defense.
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Post#5 » by kendogg » Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:09 pm

The bubble hardly counts so theres only been 2 playoffs. That doesn't even count as a dataset. '21 Giannis is the best playoff run of the 2 years.

Going forward, probably also Giannis but Tatum is also a decent bet as he is younger so more prime years for the decade. Jojo and Luka also have an outside chance but they are the riskier picks, as they just haven't shown the cold blooded assassin gene. Too much whining to refs and not enough time in the gym. I'm not a fan of Joker's playoff defense I think it kills his chances.
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Post#6 » by homecourtloss » Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:19 pm

kendogg wrote:The bubble hardly counts so theres only been 2 playoffs. That doesn't even count as a dataset. '21 Giannis is the best playoff run of the 2 years.

Going forward, probably also Giannis but Tatum is also a decent bet as he is younger so more prime years for the decade. Jojo and Luka also have an outside chance but they are the riskier picks, as they just haven't shown the cold blooded assassin gene. Too much whining to refs and not enough time in the gym. I'm not a fan of Joker's playoff defense I think it kills his chances.


And why is that?
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Post#7 » by MyUniBroDavis » Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:51 pm

homecourtloss wrote:
kendogg wrote:The bubble hardly counts so theres only been 2 playoffs. That doesn't even count as a dataset. '21 Giannis is the best playoff run of the 2 years.

Going forward, probably also Giannis but Tatum is also a decent bet as he is younger so more prime years for the decade. Jojo and Luka also have an outside chance but they are the riskier picks, as they just haven't shown the cold blooded assassin gene. Too much whining to refs and not enough time in the gym. I'm not a fan of Joker's playoff defense I think it kills his chances.


And why is that?


Because Lakers/Lebron won and Mitchell and Murray played well in round 1

If the heat beat the Lakers in 7 people would call it one of the greatest finals performances in history btw
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Post#8 » by Colbinii » Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:09 pm

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kendogg wrote:The bubble hardly counts so theres only been 2 playoffs. That doesn't even count as a dataset. '21 Giannis is the best playoff run of the 2 years.

Going forward, probably also Giannis but Tatum is also a decent bet as he is younger so more prime years for the decade. Jojo and Luka also have an outside chance but they are the riskier picks, as they just haven't shown the cold blooded assassin gene. Too much whining to refs and not enough time in the gym. I'm not a fan of Joker's playoff defense I think it kills his chances.


And why is that?


Because every team played on a equal ground [No HCA] :lol:
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Post#9 » by kendogg » Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:50 pm

homecourtloss wrote:
kendogg wrote:The bubble hardly counts so theres only been 2 playoffs.


And why is that?


It's not a real playoff environment without a screaming crowd.
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Re: Best Playoff Performer in the 2020s? 

Post#10 » by Triple M » Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:05 pm

MyUniBroDavis wrote:Giannis > Butler > Luka > Jokic > Tatum right now

Throughout the 2020s, I think

Giannis > Luka = Jokic > Tatum > Butler, butlers old lmao

2022 Jimmy was different though


TBH i forgot about Butler because he's in his 30s. At the end i see him being more rememered with the 2010 players than the 2020 although his succes in the playoffs came against Giannis, Tatum, and Embiid.
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Post#11 » by rate_ » Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:41 pm

Jimmy last playoffs:

17 games | 27/7/5 | 29.9 PER | .291 WS/48 | 11.8 BPM

Jimmy since 2020 playoffs:

42 games | 24/7/6 | 24.9 PER | .215 WS/48 | 7.5 BPM

Beat Tatum/Brown, Giannis/Middleton, Embiid/Harden. Took LeBron/AD to 6 games w/o Bam or Dragic most of the series. 6 40+ point games in that span. Only player ever to outscore, outrebound and outassist LeBron in a game, much less the Finals.
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Re: Best Playoff Performer in the 2020s? 

Post#12 » by homecourtloss » Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:47 pm

kendogg wrote:
homecourtloss wrote:
kendogg wrote:The bubble hardly counts so theres only been 2 playoffs.


And why is that?


It's not a real playoff environment without a screaming crowd.


Does the crowd scream only against one team? The 2020 Lakers (and LeBron throughout his career) were very good on the road. The Lakers also lost their home court advantage. It was pure basketball with an even greater emphasis on shooting for a team that wasn’t that good at shooting.

So, other than LeBron winning, why does the “Bubble hardly count”?
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Post#13 » by kendogg » Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:59 pm

homecourtloss wrote:
kendogg wrote:
homecourtloss wrote:
And why is that?


It's not a real playoff environment without a screaming crowd.


Does the crowd scream only against one team? The 2020 Lakers (and LeBron throughout his career) were very good on the road. The Lakers also lost their home court advantage. It was pure basketball with an even greater emphasis on shooting for a team that wasn’t that good at shooting.

So, other than LeBron winning, why does the “Bubble hardly count”?


Because the screaming crowd adds pressure and separates the pretenders from the real assassins. You can see some folks had a great bubble outing like AD but fell back to reality once the crowds returned.
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Post#14 » by picko » Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:18 am

If the pandemic had happened in the 1990s and the Bulls had won a 'bubble' championship it'd be regarded as the greatest championship of all time.

Stephen A would be on TV screaming "Let me tell you something: there were dead bodies lying in the street. It was a dystopian nightmare. Horror movie ****."

"We locked these guys up for months. No family. No friends. Ewing stunk, couldn't take it, and don't get me started on the Mailman. But Jordan. My goodness. He would not be beaten, he would not yield, he would not compromise. Even a goddamn global pandemic couldn't stop the greatness of Air Jordan."

And this forum would never shut up about it.
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Post#15 » by homecourtloss » Tue Apr 11, 2023 2:59 am

picko wrote:If the pandemic had happened in the 1990s and the Bulls had won a 'bubble' championship it'd be regarded as the greatest championship of all time.

Stephen A would be on TV screaming "Let me tell you something: there were dead bodies lying in the street. It was a dystopian nightmare. Horror movie ****."

"We locked these guys up for months. No family. No friends. Ewing stunk, couldn't take it, and don't get me started on the Mailman. But Jordan. My goodness. He would not be beaten, he would not yield, he would not compromise. Even a goddamn global pandemic couldn't stop the greatness of Air Jordan."

And this forum would never shut up about it.

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“Back in 1993 the world was in the midst of a pandemic. COVID-19 had ravaged the world but the players and the NBA wanted to play. And play they did after a hiatus. The conditions were different from any we have ever seen as all distractions and crowd influence on players or referees was gone. There was no travel. There wasn’t anything. Just pure basketball on a neutral court to determine who was the best team.

And the best player. And once again, Michael Jordan stood out on top amongst his peers. When there is no crowd noise and no travel, the skill level of the players is even more important and the GOAT dominated, blocking out what was happening around the world, solely concentrating on his obsession which was to win and kill his opponents. While lesser players might have missed home or worried about the health of family members, Jordan pathological desire to compete despite circumstances and win shone through yet again. While other players may have been bored or wanted out of the bubble, Jordan wanted to kill his opponents in his ruthless desire to compete. The opponents didn’t stand a chance.

The Bulls held 30 point leads in 4 different games and twice in the Finals. They held leads of 27+ six different times and at least once against every team they played. And of course, when there is nothing but pure basketball to consider, who is going to player better than Jordan, the ultimate competitor and skilled player? Jordan averaged 27.6 ppg., 10.8 rpg., and 8.8 apg., while shooting a remarkable 56% from the field. And because he’s Michael Jordan, he was even BETTER in the finals, scoring 29.8 points per game on 59% shooting and 42% from the three.

The bubble may never happen again. There might never be a chance to see who’s better in a pure basketball setting again. But we do know it happened once, and like always, the GOAT rose up above his peers.”
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Post#16 » by NO-KG-AI » Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:59 am

Giannis has the high mark right now, right?

Steph's finals against a team that should be the absolute best team designed to slow him down was pretty damn impressive too
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Post#17 » by MyUniBroDavis » Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:10 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:Giannis has the high mark right now, right?

Steph's finals against a team that should be the absolute best team designed to slow him down was pretty damn impressive too


I mean I’m not hating but they would be a lot better designed to slow him down if they didn’t play drop lmao
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Post#18 » by OhayoKD » Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:27 pm

homecourtloss wrote:
kendogg wrote:
homecourtloss wrote:
And why is that?


It's not a real playoff environment without a screaming crowd.


Does the crowd scream only against one team? The 2020 Lakers (and LeBron throughout his career) were very good on the road. The Lakers also lost their home court advantage. It was pure basketball with an even greater emphasis on shooting for a team that wasn’t that good at shooting.

So, other than LeBron winning, why does the “Bubble hardly count”?

Lebron won in harder than typical circumstances and therefore it doesn't count.

Based.
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Post#19 » by Triple M » Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:24 pm

Interested in seeing Jokic lead the going forward result. Winning this season will do a lot to change how people view him. I also think Embiid and even Tatum are in the same boat, because if one of them break through it could set up very nicely for them vs Giannis the rest of the decade.
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Post#20 » by shakes0 » Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:15 pm

kendogg wrote:
homecourtloss wrote:
kendogg wrote:
It's not a real playoff environment without a screaming crowd.


Does the crowd scream only against one team? The 2020 Lakers (and LeBron throughout his career) were very good on the road. The Lakers also lost their home court advantage. It was pure basketball with an even greater emphasis on shooting for a team that wasn’t that good at shooting.

So, other than LeBron winning, why does the “Bubble hardly count”?


Because the screaming crowd adds pressure and separates the pretenders from the real assassins. You can see some folks had a great bubble outing like AD but fell back to reality once the crowds returned.



stand your ground dude, you are completely 100% right. Anyone who says differently is living in make believe land. Bubble chanp has a fat asterisk next to it and the stats from the bubble should be treated the same way play in stats are treated...like they don't exist.


Let's make a pledge. If Jamal Murray scores over 140 total points in 3 straight playoff games this year I'll change my stance and accept the *bubble *Championship as as real thing.

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