Markelle Fultz

pepe1991 · Post #121 » by **pepe1991** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:13 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:

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He took 17 whole season long

Some random Quickley, Russell, Clarkson, Fox, Gardland all took 200+ each.

...

Over whole month of March he made 7 threes.

Some random old vet Batum knocked down 8 in single game week ago.

People here simply don't understand deeper issue with his shooting. It's not just 3 point shot per-se, it's fact that defense guards him as no shooter and cloggs paint, cutting of driving lines for others.

This is very good example what happends when somebody who is no treat to shoot is defended as gimmick.

This is very good Magic example of it. He doesn't even expect to recive ball position where any other normal starting guard would be :
1) defended as treat to shoot
2) demand ball to take wide open 3

But instad, Reaves ignores him and is only focused to act as help defender if Franz goes to his stronger, right hand, knowing Fultz is extra that won't do anything inside 15 feet.

I've said it once, twice, but 3 times becomes normality ( :lol:

) Magic will first need to make playoffs so he gets humilated for his no spacing until they finally move from him. Too bad he will probably become cancer of contract before it happends.

Post #122 » by **Def Swami** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:31 pm

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VFX · Post #123 » by **VFX** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:53 pm

Def Swami wrote:

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What convenient timing.

So he’s realized he needs to shoot the 3, so that the team can be put in a better situation to win, during a contract year.

Good thing he figured out it was because he had a habit of not taking them.

What a relief.

yoyojw17 · Post #124 » by **yoyojw17** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:36 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
Def Swami wrote:

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What convenient timing.

So he’s realized he needs to shoot the 3, so that the team can be put in a better situation to win, during a contract year.

Good thing he figured out it was because he had a habit of not taking them.

What a relief.

But the things he said were valid. He's coming along at his own pace and not being reckless ass they are trying to win....Not anyone else timeline.... so what.

he's not going to be able to just talk about it.... he's going to have to be about it next season. And trust me... i'm sure they see him shooting on the court in scrimmages and practice and can have an understanding of what he might be capable of. We'll see next season if he puts his money where his mouth is and how he grows. Happy to hear that he is healthy...., especially for all of those that were spinning narratives and saying that he is still injured.

p0peye · Post #125 » by **p0peye** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:39 pm

I'm not watching these last several games, did something happen that nullifies what I was seeing for 6 years?

zaymon · Post #126 » by **zaymon** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:30 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
Def Swami wrote:

Read on Twitter
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What convenient timing.

So he’s realized he needs to shoot the 3, so that the team can be put in a better situation to win, during a contract year.

Good thing he figured out it was because he had a habit of not taking them.

What a relief.

He worked at it all summer, but thought it would be better to not space the floor for his team ? "I could shoot the pull up shot any time i wanted", but he decided no to. Then when we lost the chance for a play in spot he decided to help his team win... :banghead:

If anyone had any doubts it is mental.

Post #127 » by **eyriq** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:33 pm

zaymon wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
Def Swami wrote:

Read on Twitter
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What convenient timing.

So he’s realized he needs to shoot the 3, so that the team can be put in a better situation to win, during a contract year.

Good thing he figured out it was because he had a habit of not taking them.

What a relief.

He worked at it all summer, but thought it would be better to not space the floor for his team ? "I could shoot the pull up shot any time i wanted", but he decided no to. Then when we lost the chance for a play in spot he decided to help his team win...
If anyone had any doubts it is mental.

That did strike me as odd. That said, it sounds like he is recovered and we can expect to see the 3 ball next season. That pushes him into keeper status pretty easily.

zaymon · Post #128 » by **zaymon** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:38 pm

eyriq wrote:
zaymon wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
What convenient timing.

So he’s realized he needs to shoot the 3, so that the team can be put in a better situation to win, during a contract year.

Good thing he figured out it was because he had a habit of not taking them.

What a relief.

He worked at it all summer, but thought it would be better to not space the floor for his team ? "I could shoot the pull up shot any time i wanted", but he decided no to. Then when we lost the chance for a play in spot he decided to help his team win...
If anyone had any doubts it is mental.
That did strike me as odd. That said, it sounds like he is recovered and we can expect to see the 3 ball next season. That pushes him into keeper status pretty easily.

I hope someone trades for him. I see no chance will win anything with such a weak mentally player. I wish him all the best, nice person, but i dont want anything to do with him on our team.

Bergmaniac · Post #129 » by **Bergmaniac** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:39 pm

eyriq wrote:
zaymon wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
What convenient timing.

So he’s realized he needs to shoot the 3, so that the team can be put in a better situation to win, during a contract year.

Good thing he figured out it was because he had a habit of not taking them.

What a relief.

He worked at it all summer, but thought it would be better to not space the floor for his team ? "I could shoot the pull up shot any time i wanted", but he decided no to. Then when we lost the chance for a play in spot he decided to help his team win...
If anyone had any doubts it is mental.
That did strike me as odd. That said, it sounds like he is recovered and we can expect to see the 3 ball next season. That pushes him into keeper status pretty easily.

I really hope our front office will require way more evidence before reaching such conclusion than Fultz attempting a handful of pull-up 3s in games we were trying to lose.

Call me cynical, but this feels largely a move to give Fultz's agent a better barganing position if there are talks of contract extention this offseason.

JoshuaPotter · Post #130 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:51 pm

eyriq wrote:That did strike me as odd. That said, it sounds like he is recovered and we can expect to see the 3 ball next season. That pushes him into keeper status pretty easily.

As always eyriq your optimism is a breathe of fresh narrative air.

Personally I will need a lot more then a few words. Because "wouldn't that be something" may sell tickets at times but it doesn't win games. A world where Fultz yoists 3-5 a game would do wonders in terms of floor spacing and to be perfectly blunt with how absolutely wide open he has been almost all season long I just don't buy it for a second.

To those that call me a hater. Meh. Ok.

To those that hopefully understand that of course I think he is an amazing PG and player with a great personality just not likely what we need for long term starter material. Thanks.

JF5 · Post #131 » by **JF5** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:56 pm

zaymon wrote:
eyriq wrote:
zaymon wrote:
He worked at it all summer, but thought it would be better to not space the floor for his team ? "I could shoot the pull up shot any time i wanted", but he decided no to. Then when we lost the chance for a play in spot he decided to help his team win...
If anyone had any doubts it is mental.
That did strike me as odd. That said, it sounds like he is recovered and we can expect to see the 3 ball next season. That pushes him into keeper status pretty easily.

I hope someone trades for him. I see no chance will win anything with such a weak mentally player. I wish him all the best, nice person, but i dont want anything to do with him on our team.

People read into this too much. He clearly isn't confident in that sort of shot. But when the team was in a situation with less pressure or needing to make something out of nothing he did it. Notice the situations he was taking those shots.

I think since he's been able to knock it down you see more of that next year. Not an absurd amount but enough to keep the defense honest in those situations.

VFX · Post #132 » by **VFX** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:04 pm

Bergmaniac wrote:
eyriq wrote:
zaymon wrote:
He worked at it all summer, but thought it would be better to not space the floor for his team ? "I could shoot the pull up shot any time i wanted", but he decided no to. Then when we lost the chance for a play in spot he decided to help his team win...
If anyone had any doubts it is mental.
That did strike me as odd. That said, it sounds like he is recovered and we can expect to see the 3 ball next season. That pushes him into keeper status pretty easily.

I really hope our front office will require way more evidence before reaching such conclusion than Fultz attempting a handful of pull-up 3s in games we were trying to lose.

Call me cynical, but this feels largely a move to give Fultz's agent a better barganing position if there are talks of contract extention this offseason.

That’s exactly what this is.

“I’ll start shooting more 3’s in my contract year. I could have been doing this the entire time.”

He basically said as much.

“Best believe you’ll being seeing it all next season for sure.”

Yeah I wonder why next season as opposed to all the other times you were starting. Did he come to this realization just now?

I’m not a hater of this young man, but he doesn’t do himself any favors.

JBSouthpaw · Post #133 » by **JBSouthpaw** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:08 pm

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Audi · Post #134 » by **Audi** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:49 pm

Bergmaniac wrote:
eyriq wrote:
zaymon wrote:
He worked at it all summer, but thought it would be better to not space the floor for his team ? "I could shoot the pull up shot any time i wanted", but he decided no to. Then when we lost the chance for a play in spot he decided to help his team win...
If anyone had any doubts it is mental.
That did strike me as odd. That said, it sounds like he is recovered and we can expect to see the 3 ball next season. That pushes him into keeper status pretty easily.

I really hope our front office will require way more evidence before reaching such conclusion than Fultz attempting a handful of pull-up 3s in games we were trying to lose.

Call me cynical, but this feels largely a move to give Fultz's agent a better barganing position if there are talks of contract extention this offseason.

Lol. C'mon. Do you really think Fultz/his agent are trying to pull a fast one over on the FO here? Do you really think - with millions and millions of dollars on the line - that the same FO who delights in exchanging picks for cash considerations, isn't doing their homework on him? That they'll lose the upper hand in a negotiation because the guy they watch routinely and can see practice daily basically said: "you ain't seen nothing yet"?

I think you can rest assured, every word he spoke is clearly meant for fans and media - he just didn't do a very good job of it.

Post #135 » by **Knightro** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:07 pm

If you listened to those Fultz quotes and came away optimistic, then I just don't know what to even say to you :lol:

Last Guardian · Post #136 » by **Last Guardian** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:14 pm

If Fultz starts regularly taking pull up threes then forget about him. The worst shot in basketball if your name isn’t Curry. If he starts shooting FVV sub 40% then just lol. I don’t care if Fultz shoots his normal form at 3…it doesn’t matter. Pull up 3 with a hand in your face is an awful shot.

By all means though if he wants to take a wide open 3 with that form, go for it.

cedric76 · Post #137 » by **cedric76** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:16 pm

Knightro wrote:If you listened to those Fultz quotes and came away optimistic, then I just don't know what to even say to you

Kelle is a keeper, so glad to have him in the team

pepe1991 · Post #138 » by **pepe1991** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:21 pm

What stopped him shooting i don't know, 5 threes a game, last week? Probably same thing that stopped him shooting 5+ threes a game last 6 years...

Guy literally finished March shooting 26% for 3 after having February shooting 23% for 3 :lol:

GGforever · Post #139 » by **GGforever** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:23 pm

A lot of pessimism in here for something we have all wanted him to do for 3 years now and finally has shown he can physically do it. Now just needs to work on it and perfect as much as possible this summer.
Still crazy to me the hate for him when the rest of his game is quality, moreso than any PG we have had since Jameer. And how I remember those Jameer is not a true point guard debates!
Markelle is the 3rd best player on this team currently, ahead of Wendell, as much that hurts so many in this forum.

Post #140 » by **Knightro** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:29 pm

Multiple people on this very forum swore up and down that Fultz was physically incapable of taking his midrange form and extending it out to the 3PT line because of thoracic outlet syndrome...