Trade Pascal to Portland/Warriors?

[Appostis]

We don’t.

Enjoy wasting Dame's years. *shrug*

Time to rebuild.

By trading Dame?

Yes.. Portland should.

[Yallbecrazy]

Last summer, the Raptors refused to trade scottie for Kevin freaking Durant. Why in the world would the Blazers trade their best asset for a dude who was psyched out by a 9 year old?

Kevin Durant is great, but he's also 35 & injury prone at this stage in his career... You don't trade a 20 year old rookie of the year ++ for him.

Siakam is good but not elite. He's also an expiring contract. Blazers shouldn't trade a 19 year old rookie who showed great potential for him.

OKC is a trade partner, because they are now competing. The only guy they would want from us is OG. I think they could offer us several firsts for him.

[Yallbecrazy]

Sharpe is in similar situation as SGA in LA. He's available for the right price.

Is Sharpe even good? He had a few big point games, but has largely been awful this season. He has potential to be good as he is skilled, but there's no guarantee he will end up decent.

[ItsDanger]

Sharpe is in similar situation as SGA in LA. He's available for the right price.

Is Sharpe even good? He had a few big point games, but has largely been awful this season. He has potential to be good as he is skilled, but there's no guarantee he will end up decent.

Offensively, he's legit 3 level scorer. Consistent during whole year. Defensively, needs a lot of work, especially off ball. That's why Portland, if trying to win, may need to trade him. He has more trade value than Simons.

[JRoy]

Sharpe is in similar situation as SGA in LA. He's available for the right price.

Is Sharpe even good? He had a few big point games, but has largely been awful this season. He has potential to be good as he is skilled, but there's no guarantee he will end up decent.

I will bet I have seen a lot more of Sharpe than you have.

He had a chance to be an all star player.

[ArthurVandelay]

We don’t.

Enjoy wasting Dame's years. *shrug*

Time to rebuild.

Who do you see Lillard being traded to?

What kind of return are you looking for?

[ArthurVandelay]

Sharpe is in similar situation as SGA in LA. He's available for the right price.

Is Sharpe even good? He had a few big point games, but has largely been awful this season. He has potential to be good as he is skilled, but there's no guarantee he will end up decent.

He reminds me of a young Zach LaVine where LaVine was a better passer/facilitator but Sharpe much more efficient scoring.

[JRoy]

Enjoy wasting Dame's years. *shrug*

Time to rebuild.

Who do you see Lillard being traded to?

What kind of return are you looking for?

To MIL in a 3 team deal, KM to team 3, picks and contracts to POR and it will not be a great return.

[ItsDanger]

Enjoy wasting Dame's years. *shrug*

Time to rebuild.

Who do you see Lillard being traded to?

What kind of return are you looking for?

This poster may want to rebuild and I don't disagree with him. But the reality is more like 95% that he stays and they go all in.

[ArthurVandelay]

Time to rebuild.

Who do you see Lillard being traded to?

What kind of return are you looking for?

This poster may want to rebuild and I don't disagree with him. But the reality is more like 95% that he stays and they go all in.

Agreed.

The Sharpe-hype is strong. I think it’s gone a little overboard, both from Portland fans wanting to keep him and Raptor fans wanting to trade for him or saying he’s untouchable. Time will tell but imo without getting control of their future picks, they have no chance of getting an all-star/all-nba player with Simons and their lotto pick (unless it’s #1 and then they aren’t trading).

Many Blazers fans still stung from Jermaine O’Neal trade to Dale Davis.

[JRoy]

Who do you see Lillard being traded to?

What kind of return are you looking for?

This poster may want to rebuild and I don't disagree with him. But the reality is more like 95% that he stays and they go all in.

Agreed.

The Sharpe-hype is strong. I think it’s gone a little overboard, both from Portland fans wanting to keep him and Raptor fans wanting to trade for him or saying he’s untouchable. Time will tell but imo without getting control of their future picks, they have no chance of getting an all-star/all-nba player with Simons and their lotto pick (unless it’s #1 and then they aren’t trading).

Many Blazers fans still stung from Jermaine O’Neal trade to Dale Davis.

You’re not wrong.

POR needs to be realistic and move on from Lillard. Send him where he wants to go and recoup a little value and build a team for the next decade. No one on TOR makes POR a contender or provide the sort of rebuilding pieces we should want.

On the other hand, some of these deals for Siakam and especially OG might charitably be categorized as optimistic.

[will]

These deals are super embarrassing. Please stop.

[YogurtProducer]

This poster may want to rebuild and I don't disagree with him. But the reality is more like 95% that he stays and they go all in.

Agreed.

The Sharpe-hype is strong. I think it’s gone a little overboard, both from Portland fans wanting to keep him and Raptor fans wanting to trade for him or saying he’s untouchable. Time will tell but imo without getting control of their future picks, they have no chance of getting an all-star/all-nba player with Simons and their lotto pick (unless it’s #1 and then they aren’t trading).

Many Blazers fans still stung from Jermaine O’Neal trade to Dale Davis.

You’re not wrong.

POR needs to be realistic and move on from Lillard. Send him where he wants to go and recoup a little value and build a team for the next decade. No one on TOR makes POR a contender or provide the sort of rebuilding pieces we should want.

On the other hand, some of these deals for Siakam and especially OG might charitably be categorized as optimistic.

Does not change that POR is definitely not trading Dame.

Might as well just accept that POR is going to make a win now move and you are going to be sad about it

[hyper316]

I'd take Siakam for Portland if they land the #2 pick (scoot)

[ArthurVandelay]

This poster may want to rebuild and I don't disagree with him. But the reality is more like 95% that he stays and they go all in.

Agreed.

The Sharpe-hype is strong. I think it’s gone a little overboard, both from Portland fans wanting to keep him and Raptor fans wanting to trade for him or saying he’s untouchable. Time will tell but imo without getting control of their future picks, they have no chance of getting an all-star/all-nba player with Simons and their lotto pick (unless it’s #1 and then they aren’t trading).

Many Blazers fans still stung from Jermaine O’Neal trade to Dale Davis.

You’re not wrong.

POR needs to be realistic and move on from Lillard. Send him where he wants to go and recoup a little value and build a team for the next decade. No one on TOR makes POR a contender or provide the sort of rebuilding pieces we should want.

On the other hand, some of these deals for Siakam and especially OG might charitably be categorized as optimistic.

Siakam alone doesn’t make them a contender but, assuming health, a starting lineup of Lillard, Thybulle (the 38.8% 3pt shooter who came to Portland), Grant, Siakam, and Nurkic is a nice starting lineup.

Use their MLE, trade exception, BAE, and find a couple of minimum vets and there might be something to work with.

[ArthurVandelay]

Time to rebuild.

Who do you see Lillard being traded to?

What kind of return are you looking for?

To MIL in a 3 team deal, KM to team 3, picks and contracts to POR and it will not be a great return.

Milwaukee didn’t make the cut but there are a bunch here:

Knicks Potential deal: Lillard for Barrett, Fournier, Obi Toppin, McBride, three first-round picks.

Nets Potential deal: Lillard for Ben Simmons, Nic Claxton, Cam Thomas and a future first-round pick.

Heat Potential deal: Lillard for Tyler Herro, Duncan Robinson, Nikola Jovic, two future first-rounders.

GSW Potential deal: Lillard for Jordan Poole, Jonathan Kuminga, Pat Baldwin Jr., future first-rounder.

Clippers Potential deal: Lillard for Norman Powell, Ivica Zubac, Terence Mann, Brandon Boston, future first-round pick.


https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-knicks/damian-lillard-trade-nets-heat-warriors/

[JRoy]

Who do you see Lillard being traded to?

What kind of return are you looking for?

To MIL in a 3 team deal, KM to team 3, picks and contracts to POR and it will not be a great return.

Milwaukee didn’t make the cut but there are a bunch here:

Knicks Potential deal: Lillard for Barrett, Fournier, Obi Toppin, McBride, three first-round picks.

Nets Potential deal: Lillard for Ben Simmons, Nic Claxton, Cam Thomas and a future first-round pick.

Heat Potential deal: Lillard for Tyler Herro, Duncan Robinson, Nikola Jovic, two future first-rounders.

GSW Potential deal: Lillard for Jordan Poole, Jonathan Kuminga, Pat Baldwin Jr., future first-rounder.

Clippers Potential deal: Lillard for Norman Powell, Ivica Zubac, Terence Mann, Brandon Boston, future first-round pick.


https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-knicks/damian-lillard-trade-nets-heat-warriors/

I think he goes east.

[ArthurVandelay]

Interesting interview with Blazers GM Joe Cronin: https://www.blazersedge.com/2023/4/19/23584156/portland-trail-blazers-podcast-joe-cronin-jacked-ramsays-salary-cap-trade-rumors-2023

If you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, it really doesn’t sound like a Lillard Trade is happening.

These two questions were interesting:

Are you comfortable going forward with the Dame (Lillard) and Ant (Simons) backcourt pairing? (3:00)

Do you believe Shaedon Sharpe has shown enough that he can be a starter in Year 2? (10:40)

It sounds like Simons could be back next year. He was pretty specific on Simon’s and vague, but high, on Sharpe.

Nurkic, Sharpe, lotto pick, and another $8-10m for Siakam?

Blazers move off unreliable Nurkic contract and keep Simons contract for another trade or use MLE or TPE to get a C. If they can square up with the bulls, they’d have all their picks to trade.

But one thing the Blazers can’t do, unless they are getting Embiid or Giannis, is to include all of Simons, Sharpe, and lotto pick all in one trade. Outside Toronto, they are the most interesting team for me on NBA.


As an aside, no GM give straight answers. Masai isn’t unique in this. Fan frustration isn’t unique to Raptors either. Read Blazer fan comments.

[Vampirate]

Pass for POR.

You keep your guys and we’ll keep ours.

Idk why you're so hellbent on not getting Siakam like he's some bum. He can be a good positive defender when he's not the #1 option and can be extremely efficient when he's not the focal point of a defense. He's already a really good offensive player as is as a number one option, you just can't win a championship with him in that role. If you only give Simons, Keon Johnson and 2-4 picks depending on protections , I'd be relatively interested. Obviously, the picks is what I'm after. I don't even want Sharpe since I know how high you guys are on him. He's obviously who I'd want but I'm staying realistic.

Getting Siakam while retaining Dame, Sharpe, Grant, Nurkic and Sharpe gets you a tad bit closer to contention in a relatively open West. You do need a much improved bench though.Now all of this doesn't matter if all you want is to rebuild in the first place, but that's not what I'm getting from your front office. Seems like your fanbase is somehow hoping for Chauncey Billups getting fired in his current contract structure and Boston to not give the bag to Brown? Idk you guys are in a weird spot.

I never said either Siakam or OG are bums; they are fine players.

They aren’t good enough to turn this team into a contender, the problems run too deep and they start with Billups; he is not a quality HC.

Fire Billups, Hire NN?

Jokes aside.

Like us, you guys need to make a hard decision soon.

[gbball]

If Portland wants to win with Lillard, I think they need to keep Simons and trade Sharpe. Siakam would thrive there.

Dame is their leader and he does a good job of lifting up his teammates. With the spacing they have Siakam would feast. He probably wouldn't play as much so he'd be fresher and could reengage defensively. He could set up Lillard and Simons all day for open looks. Also, at the end of the game, Dame is the ultimate closer, so Pascal's most glaring shortcoming would be mitigated. I think that team would do really well.

They'd still need some more defense and a mobile defensive big man.

If we were to do a Poeltl & Siakam package, they'd be title contenders. In exchange we could get Sharpe and and any other players we really like along with multiple picks from them.

We'd walk away with 2 top 13 picks this draft (ours and Portlands) and likely more draft capital in the future plus Shaedon, I'd take Keon too and anyone else we like to make salaries work. I don't like Nurkic personally, but he'd be there for the taking also. We could probably involve a 3rd team to get better value back.

I'd hate to see Siakam go and Poeltl too, but Sharpe is the only guy I'd entertain trading him for. It's got to make sense for Portland too...they need to see the path to contention. Siakam is a piece, but he doesn't get you there by himself. He and Poeltl would be very tempting for Portland.

It'd also be nice to see Siakam compete for a title again, same thing for Dame and Poeltl.