Marcus Smart - 2022 DPOY - 2023 NBA Hustle Award Winner

ConstableGeneva · Post #321 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:33 pm

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ConstableGeneva · Post #322 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:04 pm

Celtics have the 2nd most wins (RS + PO combined) in the league since Smart was drafted. Get this man a ring!

TommyPointGawd · Post #323 » by **TommyPointGawd** » Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:28 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:

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How drunk is he in that second picture? :lol:

Post #324 » by **djFan71** » Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:59 pm

TommyPointGawd wrote:
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How drunk is he in that second picture?

Marcus has integrity. He would never shill for a product he hasn't evaluated thoroughly.

_Und3r][D4wg_ · Post #325 » by **_Und3r][D4wg_** » Sat Mar 25, 2023 3:28 am

Would be great if the thread title could warrant an update to 'Marcus Smart, DPOY -- (Engaged on defense & playmaking, 2023). :biggrin:

Post #326 » by **Shak_Celts** » Sat Mar 25, 2023 3:31 am

IT4 spit truth on Smart after the game, WE NEED HIM to bring home 18!

zoyathedestroya · Post #327 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:05 pm

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Need more of the cool and controlled playmaking Marcus than the “I got this” Marcus. He’s surrounded by so much (healthy) talent this season. Defend, distribute, and destroy. Less unnecessary shenanigans too. We can win with talent, discipline, and right mindset alone.

zoyathedestroya · Post #328 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:24 pm

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I don't listen to Boston radio. Last year was last year. We didn't win the title. Cs now have Brogdon, a well-adjusted/empowered White, and shooters around the Jays. Rob isn't fed enough. Horford can get us buckets. We don't need Smart taking 15 shots per game but I don't mind him shooting open threes in rhythm and taking his mismatches in the post.

Triple7 · Post #329 » by **Triple7** » Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:03 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:

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I don't listen to Boston radio. Last year was last year. We didn't win the title. Cs now have Brogdon, a well-adjusted/empowered White, and shooters around the Jays. Rob isn't fed enough. Horford can get us buckets. We don't need Smart taking 15 shots per game but I don't mind him shooting open threes in rhythm and taking his mismatches in the post.

Just bench smart in the 4th. Problem solved. We have white and brogdon anyways, both can shoot and defend.

threrf23 · Post #330 » by **threrf23** » Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:07 pm

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I don't listen to Boston radio. Last year was last year. We didn't win the title. Cs now have Brogdon, a well-adjusted/empowered White, and shooters around the Jays. Rob isn't fed enough. Horford can get us buckets. We don't need Smart taking 15 shots per game but I don't mind him shooting open threes in rhythm and taking his mismatches in the post.

eh we're 8-9 this season when he takes between 12-15 shots

we were 8-11 last season (reg season) when he took between 12-15 shots, 2-3 in the post season

We're good when he sticks to a logical role, and/or when he is hot, at face value it's the in between games where he hurts us. Sometimes he is making up slack for missing/cold teammates, but...

Also, traditionally it's his high usage games that hurt us. This season we were 4-4 when his usage was over 23%, versus 9-1 when his usage was under 13%, and 24-6 when under 17.8%. Last season it was 8-7 when his usage was above 22.5%, versus 6-1 when it was below 11%, with the playoffs being a slight anomally although we were 3-0 when his usage was 17% or less.

Without digging further, this is something I wrote two years ago.

I have pointed out previously that last year, regular season, we were 34-5 when Marcus' usage % was 19% or lower, versus 8-16 when his usage % was above 19%. Postseason, we were 0-3 when his usage % was higher than 23, 1-4 when it was higher than 22, versus 5-0 when it was lower than 17.

This season, we are 11-3 when his usage % is under 17%, 16-7 when his usage percentage is under 19%, versus 0-6 when his usage % is above 24% (2-7 when above 22%).

On his career, in the playoffs, we are 13-1 when his usage % is 15% or less, versus 5-10 when it is above 22%.

Some will argue that he only involves himself in the offense so much when he feels the need to pick up slack for (literally/figuratively) missing teammates, and there are times when that is a legitimate excuse, but generally they are making excuses IMO.

I actually think he takes fewer bad shots than he gets credit for, and that he is a better shooter than he gets credit for. The problem is the bad shots he takes are sometimes very bad, momentum swinging shots - even when they go in. It's his hero complex that tends to hurt us. He is not good enough to do it all by himself and when he tries he gives up on his teammates. Plus the more effort he is giving on the offensive end, it seems to affect his defensive performance.

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #331 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:21 pm

He'll have plenty of opportunities to underwhelm in the playoffs once more, because we all know quite
well, Mazzulla's going to have him out there every fourth quarter/end of close games, come hell or high water....

tfribs45 · Post #332 » by **tfribs45** » Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:27 pm

The haters are slowly coming out again....Just watch and see who has the most impact on the floor beginning Sat! take your +- stats and shove it boyeeeeeeee. Means nada when the lights are bright, some turn it up and others squirm under pressure!

BostonCouchGM · Post #333 » by **BostonCouchGM** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:22 am

Triple7 wrote:
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I don't listen to Boston radio. Last year was last year. We didn't win the title. Cs now have Brogdon, a well-adjusted/empowered White, and shooters around the Jays. Rob isn't fed enough. Horford can get us buckets. We don't need Smart taking 15 shots per game but I don't mind him shooting open threes in rhythm and taking his mismatches in the post.

Just bench smart in the 4th. Problem solved. We have white and brogdon anyways, both can shoot and defend.

well, if Corey B, that guy with awful takes who used to post here all the time says it then it MUST be true! Smart taking shots is not the problem and never has been. It's WHEN he takes the shots. Our offense is designed to swing the ball to the open three point shooter. Usually defenses sell out to stop Tatum which leaves Jaylen, Horford, White, Smart, etc WIDE open and if they aren't, once they swing it the next guy is. Having Smart take those shots is by design. But he shouldn't be taking any others at any time especially early in the shot-clock

zoyathedestroya · Post #334 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:52 am

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Triple7 · Post #335 » by **Triple7** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:24 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:

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I don't listen to Boston radio. Last year was last year. We didn't win the title. Cs now have Brogdon, a well-adjusted/empowered White, and shooters around the Jays. Rob isn't fed enough. Horford can get us buckets. We don't need Smart taking 15 shots per game but I don't mind him shooting open threes in rhythm and taking his mismatches in the post.

Just bench smart in the 4th. Problem solved. We have white and brogdon anyways, both can shoot and defend.

well, if Corey B, that guy with awful takes who used to post here all the time says it then it MUST be true! Smart taking shots is not the problem and never has been. It's WHEN he takes the shots. Our offense is designed to swing the ball to the open three point shooter. Usually defenses sell out to stop Tatum which leaves Jaylen, Horford, White, Smart, etc WIDE open and if they aren't, once they swing it the next guy is. Having Smart take those shots is by design. But he shouldn't be taking any others at any time especially early in the shot-clock

That’s the problem right there. If smart isn’t out there, then we won’ have that problem to begin with. Opposing team’s defense will always leave marcus open. Sometimes really wide open to bait him to shoot. They will live with it if he makes them, than give JT that wide open shot. If the lineup is white, brog, JB, JT and Horf, then opposing teams will scramble on defense. They can’t leave anyone open. It will be hard to double the Jays. That’s the problem if smart is inside, they just sag off on D and concentrate on doubling JT. It’s different from last year without brogdon, and we needed Pritch inside at times, and our defense suffers, but with Brogdon, the defense doesn’t suffer, so there is no point in playing an offensive liability in smart to finish.

Post #336 » by **snowman** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:13 pm

Smart is 4th on the team in field goal attempts, but 14th on the team in percentage made. Make of that what you will.

zoyathedestroya · Post #337 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:51 pm

snowman wrote:Smart is 4th on the team in field goal attempts, but 14th on the team in percentage made. Make of that what you will.

If we're doing this... JB is 1st in FGAs per 100 possessions but 11th in true shooting.

Smart is 5th (6th if we include PP) and 12th in true shooting.

Bad-Thoma · Post #338 » by **Bad-Thoma** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:57 pm

Marcus is on his 3rd coach, all of who've played him among the leading minutes on the team season after season. In that time period the C's have a top 5 record in the NBA in regular season wins and lots and lots of playoff wins on top of it. Other than his rookie season they haven't missed the playoffs and he is the last man standing from many of those teams. He's the defending DPY as a guard. Yet somehow we still have people **** on him? Unreal.

Post #339 » by **165bows** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:06 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
snowman wrote:Smart is 4th on the team in field goal attempts, but 14th on the team in percentage made. Make of that what you will.

If we're doing this... JB is 1st in FGAs per 100 possessions but 11th in true shooting.

Smart is 5th (6th if we include PP) and 12th in true shooting.

Two years running this team has had a ton of hyper-efficient role players on offense that are also really limited in scoring volume and where they can score. Horford, Rob, Grant, Theis was like that, PP is, etc. Either three point shooters or at the rim only guys with limited ability to create their owns shots.

Smart creates shots for people without being a high volume high efficiency scorer but he also is the guy that steps up to get shots off when they need it more so than the rest of the limited volume scorers on the team.

All that said, if he is going into playoff in great shape and ready to play great ball for what he does this team is going to be really tough to beat.

zoyathedestroya · Post #340 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:07 pm

Bad-Thoma wrote:Marcus is on his 3rd coach, all of who've played him among the leading minutes on the team season after season. In that time period the C's have a top 5 record in the NBA in regular season wins and lots and lots of playoff wins on top of it. Other than his rookie season they haven't missed the playoffs and he is the last man standing from many of those teams. He's the defending DPY as a guard. Yet somehow we still have people **** on him? Unreal.

Plus he didn’t miss the playoffs in his rookie season! This is his 9th straight postseason appearance, an active NBA record for most consecutive playoff appearances on a single team.