2023 Draft Discussion Part III

[Fairview4Life]

I've looked into a lot of the success stories out of UK and almost all of their guards were scoring at a much higher clip. Certainly higher than Cason. Cason had a lot of "Lowrys" this year (scoring like less than 5 points). I don't trust his jump shot at all. It's slow and clunky, but he was dropping them on this year at a decent percentage. This was also a weaker UK team than the previous years where they were landing several top recruits and Cal would just use his NBA connects to get them into the first round. If Cason could have scored more, no one was in his way. But, he's a coaches' dream and definitely a culture type of player. The kind of player everyone here seems to hate these days.

Aye man, I'm just looking for a FVV successor or someone that can do pull up shooting. That's all I care about during this draft :lol:

We're getting Scoot, don't worry.

[OakleyDokely]

Aye man, I'm just looking for a FVV successor or someone that can do pull up shooting. That's all I care about during this draft

We're getting Scoot, don't worry.

I have very good sources. The best sources.

[Rapsfan07]

If you're going to bet on anyone, it's a Kentucky guard. They don't miss !

Brandon Knight.

Had a decade long career lol.

Herro, SGA, Fox, Immanuel Quickley, Devin Booker, Tyrese Maxey, Sharpe, Jamal Murray all in the last several years. Sheesh !

People also forget that Knight was flirting with an All-Star selection one year in Phoenix.

Anyways if Wallace was available, I would happily take him there. If not, moving back is great option as well. There are quite a few very interesting guard prospects later in this draft. And we might be able to secure two of them, depending on who we trade with and where we land.

But when you think about the fact that we could leave this draft with 2 of Bufkin, Jones, Podz, Cissoko, Miller, Coulibably, Whitehead....I think we're going to have a hard time screwing this up.

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I've been saying it for a while now but Zach Edey is going to be garbo if some team gives him a chance in the NBA. Not a league he belongs in.

I think he'd be like Ivica Zubac. With Poeltl and Koloko, likely more mobile, there's no room on this roster, but a team might pick him up mid-2nd round.

[Psubs]

The exciting thing about potentially picking 11th is that there is a legitimate chance Cason Wallace will still be there since teams love size and could take Black off the board before him.

One thing that isn't being talked about enough with Wallace is that he dealt with injuries this year (could further help him slide to us) and you'd hope that when being evaluated it's not something that a team would think will affect him throughout his career. Hopefully he gets full medical clearance.

Thank goodness he had the late season slump so he's not shooting 40% from 3 still. He didn't take THAT many so the slump dropped his % quickly. I trust that he'd be able to shoot 35-40% from 3.

[Psubs]

Cason Wallace is too safe of a pick for me. He will probably have a nice career but will he really be more impactful than a guy like Delon Wright who can be had for the MLE year after year? I don't see anything beyond rotation player or solid starter with him. I'd much rather swing for upside, even if the upside comes with a higher bust potential.

I guess you're looking for a Booker, Klay, Lavine, etc, who were all drafted outside the top 10. Really though, have to dodge the Johnny Davis, Ousmane Dieng's, etc.

I feel like Cason's POA defense is everything that's needed to fix this team. Also he's a PG that was playing along side another more seasoned PG. Anthony Black was able to play PG with Nick Smith out most of the year and had a lot of to's.

After the top 3, I feel like the next 20 are pretty comparable so BPA isn't quite as clear and should go for what you need. Sacramento needed a SF and Keegan Murray has been able to start and shoot 40% from 3, which made the bench deeper.

[Psubs]

Was it HumbleRen? Wutang? Somebody liked Keyonte a lot. So whomever it was, I found this on Twitter.

Not me.
I'm aiming for Cason / Hendricks / Whitmore if he slides. Keyonte is talented just terrible efficiency.

When things got tougher in the tourney, Keyonte sucked while Cason excelled. Cason is a big PG, while Keyonte is an under-sized SG. Doe Keyonte end up better than Kevin Porter Jr, I'm not sure. The gamble that Houston made paid off and I think KPJr would be Keyonte's ceiling.

Keyonte has already slid to the mid-1st after the season ending performance. Maybe Miami takes him at #18? Maybe Indiana at #25 if they trade away Hield? He shouldn't pass Charlotte at #27.

[Yallbecrazy]

Brandon Knight.

Had a decade long career lol.

Herro, SGA, Fox, Immanuel Quickley, Devin Booker, Tyrese Maxey, Sharpe, Jamal Murray all in the last several years. Sheesh !

People also forget that Knight was flirting with an All-Star selection one year in Phoenix.

Anyways if Wallace was available, I would happily take him there. If not, moving back is great option as well. There are quite a few very interesting guard prospects later in this draft. And we might be able to secure two of them, depending on who we trade with and where we land.

But when you think about the fact that we could leave this draft with 2 of Bufkin, Jones, Podz, Cissoko, Miller, Coulibably, Whitehead....I think we're going to have a hard time screwing this up.

Or we take GG Jackson and JHS and I cancel my seasons tickets.

[Rapsfan07]

Had a decade long career lol.

Herro, SGA, Fox, Immanuel Quickley, Devin Booker, Tyrese Maxey, Sharpe, Jamal Murray all in the last several years. Sheesh !

People also forget that Knight was flirting with an All-Star selection one year in Phoenix.

Anyways if Wallace was available, I would happily take him there. If not, moving back is great option as well. There are quite a few very interesting guard prospects later in this draft. And we might be able to secure two of them, depending on who we trade with and where we land.

But when you think about the fact that we could leave this draft with 2 of Bufkin, Jones, Podz, Cissoko, Miller, Coulibably, Whitehead....I think we're going to have a hard time screwing this up.

Or we take GG Jackson and JHS and I cancel my seasons tickets.

Oh God, that's a painful to even imagine

Like I said, it's hard to screw this up lol

[BoyzNTheHood]

Cason Wallace is too safe of a pick for me. He will probably have a nice career but will he really be more impactful than a guy like Delon Wright who can be had for the MLE year after year? I don't see anything beyond rotation player or solid starter with him. I'd much rather swing for upside, even if the upside comes with a higher bust potential.

I guess you're looking for a Booker, Klay, Lavine, etc, who were all drafted outside the top 10. Really though, have to dodge the Johnny Davis, Ousmane Dieng's, etc.

I feel like Cason's POA defense is everything that's needed to fix this team. Also he's a PG that was playing along side another more seasoned PG. Anthony Black was able to play PG with Nick Smith out most of the year and had a lot of to's.

After the top 3, I feel like the next 20 are pretty comparable so BPA isn't quite as clear and should go for what you need. Sacramento needed a SF and Keegan Murray has been able to start and shoot 40% from 3, which made the bench deeper.

Johnny Davis will be fine. I told y’all I liked him during his draft year and that will hold true. Giving up on guys within their first 2 years is a joke. That last point goes for Dieng too even though I was never enamoured with him.

[ItsDanger]

If Orlando actually wants Fred, I can't stress how important it is for the Bulls to beat Miami. That one spot could be crucial negotiating leverage depending on how the draft shakes out. Orlando has 2 1sts and may be willing to trade.

[OakleyDokely]

A. Black: 34.9 MIN, 12.8 PPG, 5.1 REB, 3.9 AST, 2.1 STL, 0.6 BLK, 3.0 TO, .453 FG, .301 3PT, .705 FT, .549 TS, 20.9 USG, 6.7 BPM
C Wallace: 32.2 MIN, 11.7 PPG, 3.7 REB, 4.3 AST, 2.0 STL, 0.5 BLK, 2.1 TO, .446 FG, .346 3PT, .757 FT, .543 TS, 19.9 USG, 7.7 BPM

[BoyzNTheHood]

If Orlando actually wants Fred, I can't stress how important it is for the Bulls to beat Miami. That one spot could be crucial negotiating leverage depending on how the draft shakes out. Orlando has 2 1sts and may be willing to trade.

I can’t see Orlando giving us a lottery pick for Fred

[BoyzNTheHood]

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[ItsDanger]

If Orlando actually wants Fred, I can't stress how important it is for the Bulls to beat Miami. That one spot could be crucial negotiating leverage depending on how the draft shakes out. Orlando has 2 1sts and may be willing to trade.

I can’t see Orlando giving us a lottery pick for Fred

No, flipping one spot + whatever else they can get. Just depends on how hot they are for a certain prospect and their plans around the backcourt. Just because they have cap space doesn't mean they won't dump salary. Personally, I don't buy the Orlando interest in Fred but who knows.

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If Orlando actually wants Fred, I can't stress how important it is for the Bulls to beat Miami. That one spot could be crucial negotiating leverage depending on how the draft shakes out. Orlando has 2 1sts and may be willing to trade.

I can’t see Orlando giving us a lottery pick for Fred

I can see BK trading Joe Harris, #20, #21 and cash to Orlando for #12 (Nick Smith Jr) and Okeke. Save BK $15 million in cap space under luxury so they can use the MLE. Then using #21 to draft for Toronto to sign and trade for FVV

Hmmmm, maybe Orlando adds Fultz to Harris sending them to Charlotte for Gordon Hayward?

[BoyzNTheHood]

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[JShuttlesworth]

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What's with these kids? They have so much opportunity ahead of them and they make such poor choices

[mademan]

How much would you guys trade to move up for Scoot? You got a couple teams with their guards already (Portland, Dallas, maybe Detroit, maybe Pacers?)

It would take at least OG+13. Probably some slight value more on top (2nds, precious)

[Bruin]

How much would you guys trade to move up for Scoot? You got a couple teams with their guards already (Portland, Dallas, maybe Detroit, maybe Pacers?)

It would take at least OG+13. Probably some slight value more on top (2nds, precious)

I’d do it. We sorely need elite talent and Scoot has that