Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason)

[Cricket23]

Failed first round picks like Pokusevski, Samanic, Sekou, Bagley, Pritchard etc. are too expensive to be viewed as a lottery ticket. Poku will make $5 mil. next season. He's very expensive for a guy who will get fewer minutes than Kornet and has shown worse upside than Kornet. If he's cut maybe it's worth getting him in Maine.

I think Poku has shown more than any of those guys and would be a rotation player very quickly because of his versatility. He's not a comp to Kornet at all because on offense he's a wing. His salary could replace Pritchard's, and you would be moving a player at a position of strength and replacing him with a player at a position of need.

Don't mind where you're going with this although between Rob, Al, Luke, Tatum, Muscala, Gallo, and Jaylen, our frontcourt for next season is gonna be pretty stacked. And that's not even including whatever is gonna happen to Grant. I worry he'd get buried here without a serious roster consolidation move made.

It's a good problem to have, but I also remember all the talk of the need for another big and a wing. I think Poku fits both, is affordable enough, and still has a lot of upside. His skill set would provide insurance for Rob, Gallo, and Grant, and he could also spell Tatum or Horford to lighten their loads. He is a unique and talented player and his body is just starting to fill out. He was playing the best ball of his career before he got injured this year, and by the time he came back OKC had developed major chemistry and he got lost in the shuffle. Their upcoming roster crunch plus the fact that the more highly touted Chet, who is a similar player, makes Poku expendable. I have no idea if OKC has the need for a player like Pritchard, but if so there could be a deal to be made. The two team's front offices also appear to have a great relationship.

[BK_2020]

He's not really all that talented. He can't score, shoot, and having good handles for a 7 footer is a positive if you can do other 7 footer things but Poku can't. He's just an extremely untalented wing who can't defend, score, or handle the ball who happens to be really tall but doesn't really do anything with his height. Maybe in his age 22+ seasons Poku will completely buck the trend of his entire career so far and be good but you don't pay $5 mil. to roll the dice on that.

[Cricket23]

He's not really all that talented. He can't score, shoot, and having good handles for a 7 footer is a positive if you can do other 7 footer things but Poku can't. He's just an extremely untalented wing who can't defend, score, or handle the ball who happens to be really tall but doesn't really do anything with his height. Maybe in his age 22+ seasons Poku will completely buck the trend of his entire career so far and be good but you don't pay $5 mil. to roll the dice on that.

I can only guess that you haven't seen him play that much, but it's also true that the best time to acquire a player is before they show too much. Fans everywhere want to trade for Bridges or Markannen, but it's too late. I'm looking for a guy who has yet to truly break out and who I believe will break out. You don't see it in him and that's fine, but I think that I do see it.

[bucknersrevenge]

I think Poku has shown more than any of those guys and would be a rotation player very quickly because of his versatility. He's not a comp to Kornet at all because on offense he's a wing. His salary could replace Pritchard's, and you would be moving a player at a position of strength and replacing him with a player at a position of need.

Don't mind where you're going with this although between Rob, Al, Luke, Tatum, Muscala, Gallo, and Jaylen, our frontcourt for next season is gonna be pretty stacked. And that's not even including whatever is gonna happen to Grant. I worry he'd get buried here without a serious roster consolidation move made.

It's a good problem to have, but I also remember all the talk of the need for another big and a wing. I think Poku fits both, is affordable enough, and still has a lot of upside. His skill set would provide insurance for Rob, Gallo, and Grant, and he could also spell Tatum or Horford to lighten their loads. He is a unique and talented player and his body is just starting to fill out. He was playing the best ball of his career before he got injured this year, and by the time he came back OKC had developed major chemistry and he got lost in the shuffle. Their upcoming roster crunch plus the fact that the more highly touted Chet, who is a similar player, makes Poku expendable. I have no idea if OKC has the need for a player like Pritchard, but if so there could be a deal to be made. The two team's front offices also appear to have a great relationship.

Kornet and Muscala (who will both be back next season on cheap deals) already provide insurance. I just don't see how Poku ever plays here unless some of those guys are moved for something else first. Not a bad player but some stuff would need to happen here first or it would be a waste of time. We already have 12 people on the books for next year and that's before making a decision on Davison, and maybe whatever we get with our 2nd rnd pick. Oh yeah, and Begarin if we so choose.

[BK_2020]

He's not really all that talented. He can't score, shoot, and having good handles for a 7 footer is a positive if you can do other 7 footer things but Poku can't. He's just an extremely untalented wing who can't defend, score, or handle the ball who happens to be really tall but doesn't really do anything with his height. Maybe in his age 22+ seasons Poku will completely buck the trend of his entire career so far and be good but you don't pay $5 mil. to roll the dice on that.

I can only guess that you haven't seen him play that much, but it's also true that the best time to acquire a player is before they show too much. Fans everywhere want to trade for Bridges or Markannen, but it's too late. I'm looking for a guy who has yet to truly break out and who I believe will break out. You don't see it in him and that's fine, but I think that I do see it.

Markannen and Bridges are not comparables for Poku. Those guys were already good before bumping up their production. You have to look at guys who really sucked. It's guys like Aaron Nesmith, Bagley, Sekou, Bol Bol, Carsen Edwards, Yabusele, James Young, Dragan Bender, Denzel Valentine, etc. who are his comparables. Yes, it is possible that you acquire some team's bust and that bust becomes a good player. Although I struggle to think of an example. But a team in luxury tax is not going to spend $20 mil. real money for a shot at Poku suddenly becoming a completely different player.

[Cricket23]

Don't mind where you're going with this although between Rob, Al, Luke, Tatum, Muscala, Gallo, and Jaylen, our frontcourt for next season is gonna be pretty stacked. And that's not even including whatever is gonna happen to Grant. I worry he'd get buried here without a serious roster consolidation move made.

It's a good problem to have, but I also remember all the talk of the need for another big and a wing. I think Poku fits both, is affordable enough, and still has a lot of upside. His skill set would provide insurance for Rob, Gallo, and Grant, and he could also spell Tatum or Horford to lighten their loads. He is a unique and talented player and his body is just starting to fill out. He was playing the best ball of his career before he got injured this year, and by the time he came back OKC had developed major chemistry and he got lost in the shuffle. Their upcoming roster crunch plus the fact that the more highly touted Chet, who is a similar player, makes Poku expendable. I have no idea if OKC has the need for a player like Pritchard, but if so there could be a deal to be made. The two team's front offices also appear to have a great relationship.

Kornet and Muscala (who will both be back next season on cheap deals) already provide insurance. I just don't see how Poku ever plays here unless some of those guys are moved for something else first. Not a bad player but some stuff would need to happen here first or it would be a waste of time. We already have 12 people on the books for next year and that's before making a decision on Davison, and maybe whatever we get with our 2nd rnd pick. Oh yeah, and Begarin if we so choose.

Agree with Kornet and Muscala but the reason I like Poku is because he can also play the wing and I think Boston could use an infusion of youth with upside. I hope Davison, Begarin, and the 2nd round pick all hit, but it's more probable that one or none do. Poku is already an NBA player.

[Cricket23]

He's not really all that talented. He can't score, shoot, and having good handles for a 7 footer is a positive if you can do other 7 footer things but Poku can't. He's just an extremely untalented wing who can't defend, score, or handle the ball who happens to be really tall but doesn't really do anything with his height. Maybe in his age 22+ seasons Poku will completely buck the trend of his entire career so far and be good but you don't pay $5 mil. to roll the dice on that.

I can only guess that you haven't seen him play that much, but it's also true that the best time to acquire a player is before they show too much. Fans everywhere want to trade for Bridges or Markannen, but it's too late. I'm looking for a guy who has yet to truly break out and who I believe will break out. You don't see it in him and that's fine, but I think that I do see it.

Markannen and Bridges are not comparables for Poku. Those guys were already good before bumping up their production. You have to look at guys who really sucked. It's guys like Aaron Nesmith, Bagley, Sekou, Bol Bol, Carsen Edwards, Yabusele, James Young, Dragan Bender, Denzel Valentine, etc. who are his comparables. Yes, it is possible that you acquire some team's bust and that bust becomes a good player. Although I struggle to think of an example. But a team in luxury tax is not going to spend $20 mil. real money for a shot at Poku suddenly becoming a completely different player.

I mention Bridges and Markannen not to compare them as players, but rather to identify examples of players who were acquired at the right time for value. I would not call Poku a bust. He's 21 and was drafted as a project, and he has made significant progress. You said he doesn't do anything that 7 footers do, but he's a very good rim protector. You shouldn't take my word for it; just check out what they were saying about him in OKC earlier in the year. Boston would gladly pay his salary if they are high on him like I am. If they see him the way you do, they wouldn't. We don't know what they think of him.

[bucknersrevenge]

It's a good problem to have, but I also remember all the talk of the need for another big and a wing. I think Poku fits both, is affordable enough, and still has a lot of upside. His skill set would provide insurance for Rob, Gallo, and Grant, and he could also spell Tatum or Horford to lighten their loads. He is a unique and talented player and his body is just starting to fill out. He was playing the best ball of his career before he got injured this year, and by the time he came back OKC had developed major chemistry and he got lost in the shuffle. Their upcoming roster crunch plus the fact that the more highly touted Chet, who is a similar player, makes Poku expendable. I have no idea if OKC has the need for a player like Pritchard, but if so there could be a deal to be made. The two team's front offices also appear to have a great relationship.

Kornet and Muscala (who will both be back next season on cheap deals) already provide insurance. I just don't see how Poku ever plays here unless some of those guys are moved for something else first. Not a bad player but some stuff would need to happen here first or it would be a waste of time. We already have 12 people on the books for next year and that's before making a decision on Davison, and maybe whatever we get with our 2nd rnd pick. Oh yeah, and Begarin if we so choose.

Agree with Kornet and Muscala but the reason I like Poku is because he can also play the wing and I think Boston could use an infusion of youth with upside. I hope Davison, Begarin, and the 2nd round pick all hit, but it's more probable that one or none do. Poku is already an NBA player.

I forgot Hauser of course. And don't forget we'll draft someone to add to that youth infusion. Poku's not bad. We'll see. I think it's a long shot but I get why you like him.

[zoyathedestroya]

I'm with djFan. Give me SloMo! Shooting 47% from corners this year too (41% from 3 overall).

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[BK_2020]

I can only guess that you haven't seen him play that much, but it's also true that the best time to acquire a player is before they show too much. Fans everywhere want to trade for Bridges or Markannen, but it's too late. I'm looking for a guy who has yet to truly break out and who I believe will break out. You don't see it in him and that's fine, but I think that I do see it.

Markannen and Bridges are not comparables for Poku. Those guys were already good before bumping up their production. You have to look at guys who really sucked. It's guys like Aaron Nesmith, Bagley, Sekou, Bol Bol, Carsen Edwards, Yabusele, James Young, Dragan Bender, Denzel Valentine, etc. who are his comparables. Yes, it is possible that you acquire some team's bust and that bust becomes a good player. Although I struggle to think of an example. But a team in luxury tax is not going to spend $20 mil. real money for a shot at Poku suddenly becoming a completely different player.

I mention Bridges and Markannen not to compare them as players, but rather to identify examples of players who were acquired at the right time for value. I would not call Poku a bust. He's 21 and was drafted as a project, and he has made significant progress. You said he doesn't do anything that 7 footers do, but he's a very good rim protector. You shouldn't take my word for it; just check out what they were saying about him in OKC earlier in the year. Boston would gladly pay his salary if they are high on him like I am. If they see him the way you do, they wouldn't. We don't know what they think of him.

Good point about his rim protection. I don't think that makes up for his other defensive flaws. I would rather gamble on someone like Thybulle.

[Larry_Russell]

Brown and a s&T grant williams to Portland for Dame

Simmons
Brown
Reddish or Thybulle
Grant
Nurkic


Smart and Timelord to Utah for Markannen and Kessler
Sexton
Smart
THT
Oklynk
Jones

Dame/Pritchard
White/Brogs
Tatum/Hauser
Markannen/Gallo
Kessler/Horford


(OIBs add picks and youth where needed)

[Hal14]

lol good lord. we lose 1 game because Trae goes nuts hitting a bunch of lucky shots from half court and it's time to flip over our roster and trade everyone.

[BK_2020]

Brown and a s&T grant williams to Portland for Dame

Simmons
Brown
Reddish or Thybulle
Grant
Nurkic


Smart and Timelord to Utah for Markannen and Kessler
Sexton
Smart
THT
Oklynk
Jones

Dame/Pritchard
White/Brogs
Tatum/Hauser
Markannen/Gallo
Kessler/Horford


(OIBs add picks and youth where needed)

Markannen and Kessler would be good additions but can't see Danny going for that even if he drafted and loves Smart and Timelord.

[Larry_Russell]

Brown and a s&T grant williams to Portland for Dame

Simmons
Brown
Reddish or Thybulle
Grant
Nurkic


Smart and Timelord to Utah for Markannen and Kessler
Sexton
Smart
THT
Oklynk
Jones

Dame/Pritchard
White/Brogs
Tatum/Hauser
Markannen/Gallo
Kessler/Horford


(OIBs add picks and youth where needed)

Markannen and Kessler would be good additions but can't see Danny going for that even if he drafted and loves Smart and Timelord.

I assume a pick or more would need to be added to make things happen. I would make the call if I was Brad...doesnt hurt.

But those 2 would completely solidify the front court for years and years to come, imo.
Dame gives that E.O.G. killer.

[bucknersrevenge]

Brown and a s&T grant williams to Portland for Dame

Simmons
Brown
Reddish or Thybulle
Grant
Nurkic


Smart and Timelord to Utah for Markannen and Kessler
Sexton
Smart
THT
Oklynk
Jones

Dame/Pritchard
White/Brogs
Tatum/Hauser
Markannen/Gallo
Kessler/Horford


(OIBs add picks and youth where needed)

Markannen and Kessler would be good additions but can't see Danny going for that even if he drafted and loves Smart and Timelord.

I assume a pick or more would need to be added to make things happen. I would make the call if I was Brad...doesnt hurt.

But those 2 would completely solidify the front court for years and years to come, imo.
Dame gives that E.O.G. killer.

Kessler and Markannen are the only 2 "completely untouchable" guys Danny had going into this year's deadline as he said. No way we'd get either of them. The Dame idea would be the only thing even remotely possible due to the situation in Portland right now.

[gammajamma]

would see if we can trade smart, grant (sign and trade) picks for siakam. dont see toronto doing it but worth a try

[FlatearthZorro]

would see if we can trade smart, grant (sign and trade) picks for siakam. dont see toronto doing it but worth a try

Good idea, kinda doesn't make sense for TOR unless it's a 3 way trade and they get somebody else.
On the other hand, wonder what Danny would want for Walker Kessler. Bobby is a part time basketball player. Kessler has been so good.

[Higgs Boston]

If we traded gallinari this offseason the team would have the mle with the new CBA?

[Larry_Russell]

We need a legit bigman.

I am ok with Tatum at the 4, really like it because it puts white in the starting lineup.

But that Center is missing.

Smart/Pritchard
White/Brogs
Brown/???
Tatum/Gallo
???/Horford

Honestly, I am open to Trading Rob, Grant and youth/picks if it meant getting a center that can be legit and a decent upgrade to bench SF.

Perhaps Kessler could be had for that package?


Although I think Danny owes us bigtime and should just not think about it an trade us Kessler and Lauri for Timelord, Grant, Pritchard, all the stashes and all the picks

Smart/Brogdon
Brown/White
Tatum/??
Markannen/Gallo
Kessler/Horford

Its time Danny, make it happen.

[FlatearthZorro]

Brown and a s&T grant williams to Portland for Dame

Simmons
Brown
Reddish or Thybulle
Grant
Nurkic


Smart and Timelord to Utah for Markannen and Kessler
Sexton
Smart
THT
Oklynk
Jones

Dame/Pritchard
White/Brogs
Tatum/Hauser
Markannen/Gallo
Kessler/Horford


(OIBs add picks and youth where needed)

Kessler is the cheapeast best player we could get. I doubt Danny just throws Markannen and Kessler at us without picks. What makes Kessler great is not only age, but the fact he has 3 more years under rookie contract.