Tampa Bay Rays (13-0) @ Toronto Blue Jays (8-5) | April 14-16, 2023

Raps in 4 · Post #241 » by **Raps in 4** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:43 pm

Manoah already unravelling.

Greatness · Post #242 » by **Greatness** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:45 pm

Manoah sucks

Madvillainy2004 · Post #243 » by **Madvillainy2004** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:45 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:Manoah already unravelling.

His fastball location has been atrocious

Randle McMurphy · Post #244 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:46 pm

Looks like this one will be over quick. Manoah with a pitch clock is probably our 5th starter.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #245 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:46 pm

Greatness wrote:Manoah sucks

Regression is mean.

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Raps in 4 · Post #246 » by **Raps in 4** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:47 pm

Game over.

Madvillainy2004 · Post #247 » by **Madvillainy2004** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:48 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:Looks like this one will be over quick. Manoah with a pitch clock is probably our 5th starter.

Did he look this bad in the spring? It's not even just his breaking pitches his fastballs are like 6-7 inches off.

Randle McMurphy · Post #248 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:48 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Greatness wrote:Manoah sucks

Regression is mean.

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This isn't regression. He's nowhere close to the guy he was last year in any regard (command or stuff).

Randle McMurphy · Post #249 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:48 pm

Madvillainy2004 wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Looks like this one will be over quick. Manoah with a pitch clock is probably our 5th starter.

Did he look this bad in the spring? It's not even just his breaking pitches his fastballs are like 6-7 inches off.

I don't watch much ST baseball, but he was pretty terrible there too if you look at his results. He waved them off as just being meaningless spring ball.

Corinne · Post #250 » by **Corinne** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:48 pm

Jezus what is the record for the earliest Pete Walker visit? We're 15 pitches in

Ranger One · Post #251 » by **Ranger One** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:50 pm

Manoah looks cooked. Yikes.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #252 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:51 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Greatness wrote:Manoah sucks

Regression is mean.

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This isn't regression. He's nowhere close to the guy he was last year in any regard (command or stuff).

One year wonder. Berrios and Kikuchi results still in progress

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Boogie! · Post #253 » by **Boogie!** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:51 pm

Wow. From Cy young to berrios in one season.

Randle McMurphy · Post #254 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:51 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Regression is mean.

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This isn't regression. He's nowhere close to the guy he was last year in any regard (command or stuff).

One year wonder. Berrios and Kikuchi results still in progress

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Are you ignoring the fact that Manoah was also elite in 2021?

Boogie! · Post #255 » by **Boogie!** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:53 pm

I've always wondered why manoah was so effective. His pitch repertoirenever seemed elite. He has a 2 seamer, slider and whst else? What made him so unhittablr last season?

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #256 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:53 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:This isn't regression. He's nowhere close to the guy he was last year in any regard (command or stuff).

One year wonder. Berrios and Kikuchi results still in progress

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Are you ignoring the fact that Manoah was also elite in 2021?

Sure in one year. But right now how are you going to explain this. He’s trash. Maybe everyone has scouted him and know his tendencies/tipping his pitches lmao

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Madvillainy2004 · Post #257 » by **Madvillainy2004** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:53 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:This isn't regression. He's nowhere close to the guy he was last year in any regard (command or stuff).

One year wonder. Berrios and Kikuchi results still in progress

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Are you ignoring the fact that Manoah was also elite in 2021?

Great pitchers have had rough starts before. I think he'll he fine based on past results.

Randle McMurphy · Post #258 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:54 pm

Boogie! wrote:I've always wondered why manoah was so effective. His pitch repertoirenever seemed elite. He has a 2 seamer, slider and whst else? What made him so unhittablr last season?

His command.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #259 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:54 pm

Boogie! wrote:I've always wondered why manoah was so effective. His pitch repertoirenever seemed elite. He has a 2 seamer, slider and whst else? What made him so unhittablr last season?

No scouting report lmao

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Boogie! · Post #260 » by **Boogie!** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:54 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Boogie! wrote:I've always wondered why manoah was so effective. His pitch repertoirenever seemed elite. He has a 2 seamer, slider and whst else? What made him so unhittablr last season?

His command.

Wasn't he known for hitting a lot of batters