2023 NBA Draft Prospects

Hoops Addict · Post #161 » by **Hoops Addict** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:51 pm

https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom.com/2023-nba-mock-draft-2-0-picks-1-50/

New mock with evaluations.

Catchall · Post #162 » by **Catchall** » Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:22 pm

Welp, if the Jazz stay at #9, I think they're looking at Dick, Hendricks, Black, Wallace and Keyonte if they believe in him. Maybe GG could go here if the Jazz fall in love.

At #16, the Jazz are likely looking at Hood-Schifino, Cissoko, Whitehead, Sensabaugh, Bufkin, etc. I think it's likely that Dick, Black, Keyonte, Hawkins and GG are gone by #16.

Portland is reportedly willing to put their pick on the market if they can't get Victor. Dallas is reportedly willing to trade out as well for a player who can help right away. So there could be some movement.

Post #163 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Sat Apr 15, 2023 5:29 pm

The NBA hopes no team will be able to draft both Anthony Black and Gradey Dick. They are terrified of a Black-Dick back court. And if Rudy Gay is still on the roster...

I'll see myself out.

Post #164 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:24 pm

Assuming the Jazz pick 9th, the most appealing prospects to me, in order are:

1. Cam Whitmore
2. Gradey Dick
3. GG Jackson

babyjax13 · Post #165 » by **babyjax13** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:43 am

Catchall wrote:Welp, if the Jazz stay at #9, I think they're looking at Dick, Hendricks, Black, Wallace and Keyonte if they believe in him. Maybe GG could go here if the Jazz fall in love.

At #16, the Jazz are likely looking at Hood-Schifino, Cissoko, Whitehead, Sensabaugh, Bufkin, etc. I think it's likely that Dick, Black, Keyonte, Hawkins and GG are gone by #16.

Portland is reportedly willing to put their pick on the market if they can't get Victor. Dallas is reportedly willing to trade out as well for a player who can help right away. So there could be some movement.

I think if anyone is a surprise slip into the second round, it is GG Jackson. Terrible on-court attitude, terrible shot selection, absolute black hole. SC was terrible, but they were worse when he played. Obviously a ton of potential there, but I'd hate to take him at 9. I'd also hate to take Grady Dick, who doesn't look like anything other than a solid 4th best starter, to me, with our first pick. I'd love him in the 12-16 range, but at 9 I think there will be better options.

Catchall · Post #166 » by **Catchall** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:28 am

babyjax13 wrote:
Catchall wrote:Welp, if the Jazz stay at #9, I think they're looking at Dick, Hendricks, Black, Wallace and Keyonte if they believe in him. Maybe GG could go here if the Jazz fall in love.

At #16, the Jazz are likely looking at Hood-Schifino, Cissoko, Whitehead, Sensabaugh, Bufkin, etc. I think it's likely that Dick, Black, Keyonte, Hawkins and GG are gone by #16.

Portland is reportedly willing to put their pick on the market if they can't get Victor. Dallas is reportedly willing to trade out as well for a player who can help right away. So there could be some movement.

I think if anyone is a surprise slip into the second round, it is GG Jackson. Terrible on-court attitude, terrible shot selection, absolute black hole. SC was terrible, but they were worse when he played. Obviously a ton of potential there, but I'd hate to take him at 9. I'd also hate to take Grady Dick, who doesn't look like anything other than a solid 4th best starter, to me, with our first pick. I'd love him in the 12-16 range, but at 9 I think there will be better options.

Who do you like at #9?

WinterSoldier · Post #167 » by **WinterSoldier** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:23 pm

Catchall wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
Catchall wrote:Welp, if the Jazz stay at #9, I think they're looking at Dick, Hendricks, Black, Wallace and Keyonte if they believe in him. Maybe GG could go here if the Jazz fall in love.

At #16, the Jazz are likely looking at Hood-Schifino, Cissoko, Whitehead, Sensabaugh, Bufkin, etc. I think it's likely that Dick, Black, Keyonte, Hawkins and GG are gone by #16.

Portland is reportedly willing to put their pick on the market if they can't get Victor. Dallas is reportedly willing to trade out as well for a player who can help right away. So there could be some movement.

I think if anyone is a surprise slip into the second round, it is GG Jackson. Terrible on-court attitude, terrible shot selection, absolute black hole. SC was terrible, but they were worse when he played. Obviously a ton of potential there, but I'd hate to take him at 9. I'd also hate to take Grady Dick, who doesn't look like anything other than a solid 4th best starter, to me, with our first pick. I'd love him in the 12-16 range, but at 9 I think there will be better options.

Who do you like at #9?

Assuming no one falls, I think you take Black. I have him as my sixth best prospect anyway.

babyjax13 · Post #168 » by **babyjax13** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:25 pm

Catchall wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
Catchall wrote:Welp, if the Jazz stay at #9, I think they're looking at Dick, Hendricks, Black, Wallace and Keyonte if they believe in him. Maybe GG could go here if the Jazz fall in love.

At #16, the Jazz are likely looking at Hood-Schifino, Cissoko, Whitehead, Sensabaugh, Bufkin, etc. I think it's likely that Dick, Black, Keyonte, Hawkins and GG are gone by #16.

Portland is reportedly willing to put their pick on the market if they can't get Victor. Dallas is reportedly willing to trade out as well for a player who can help right away. So there could be some movement.

I think if anyone is a surprise slip into the second round, it is GG Jackson. Terrible on-court attitude, terrible shot selection, absolute black hole. SC was terrible, but they were worse when he played. Obviously a ton of potential there, but I'd hate to take him at 9. I'd also hate to take Grady Dick, who doesn't look like anything other than a solid 4th best starter, to me, with our first pick. I'd love him in the 12-16 range, but at 9 I think there will be better options.

Who do you like at #9?

1 Victor Wembanyama
2 Scoot Henderson
3 Brandon Miller
4 Ausar Thompson
5 Keyonte George
6 Amen Thompson
7 Anthony Black
8 Jarace Walker
9 Cam Whitmore
10 Taylor Hendricks
11 Cason Wallace

This is my top 11 guys in the draft, and where I view them. So, I'd take the highest of these guys still there at 9. I expect all 11 to be gone by 16, and after 11 I have a lot harder time deciding what rankings should look like. Dick comes in the next group for me, and I'd have no complaints taking him (would be pretty excited because he does have an NBA role) if all these guys are off the board. Similarly, I'd be willing to take GG at 16, as well.

bkohler · Post #169 » by **bkohler** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:59 pm

It’ll be interesting to see where Keynote ends up, seems like he’s been trending down for a while now.

Catchall · Post #170 » by **Catchall** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:03 pm

WinterSoldier wrote:
Catchall wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:I think if anyone is a surprise slip into the second round, it is GG Jackson. Terrible on-court attitude, terrible shot selection, absolute black hole. SC was terrible, but they were worse when he played. Obviously a ton of potential there, but I'd hate to take him at 9. I'd also hate to take Grady Dick, who doesn't look like anything other than a solid 4th best starter, to me, with our first pick. I'd love him in the 12-16 range, but at 9 I think there will be better options.

Who do you like at #9?

Assuming no one falls, I think you take Black. I have him as my sixth best prospect anyway.

I'm not sold on Black right now. His shooting splits are comparable to Mathisse Thybulle. Teams are going back way off of him when he's on the ball. He has no mid-range game. I think he's a defensive-minded 2/3 who plays as a glue guy and connector. I like his defensive versatility and his ability to put pressure on the rim, but he isn't top 10 for me. If he's not going to shoot, he's not a starter, imo.

Realistically, I think the Jazz would take Hendricks or Dick at #9, then they'd take Hood-Schifino, George or Bufkin at #16. If someone reaches for Wallace or Black inside the top 8, then the Jazz would take whoever drops (e.g., Whitmore, Walker, Ausar, etc.) and run away grinning.

babyjax13 · Post #171 » by **babyjax13** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:06 pm

bkohler wrote:It’ll be interesting to see where Keynote ends up, seems like he’s been trending down for a while now.

I don't understand why (or I do, but I think it is wrong). He looks like he'll be able to generate his own offense really well + be a pretty high-caliber shooter off-ball. Maybe in that wide range between Jordan Clarkson and Devin Booker he's a bit closer to Clarkson than he is Booker, but that still seems like a top 10 pick to me.

bkohler · Post #172 » by **bkohler** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:15 pm

I think he’s someone that will rise again once they get into workouts. I haven’t been enamored with either Keyonte or NSJ but I also am not a big fan of score first SGs with the way the league is right now.

I see lots of Eric Gordon in Keyonte and lots of Clarkson actually in NSJ.

bkohler · Post #173 » by **bkohler** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:20 pm

Catchall wrote:
WinterSoldier wrote:
Catchall wrote:
Who do you like at #9?

Assuming no one falls, I think you take Black. I have him as my sixth best prospect anyway.

I'm not sold on Black right now. His shooting splits are comparable to Mathisse Thybulle. Teams are going back way off of him when he's on the ball. He has no mid-range game. I think he's a defensive-minded 2/3 who plays as a glue guy and connector. I like his defensive versatility and his ability to put pressure on the rim, but he isn't top 10 for me. If he's not going to shoot, he's not a starter, imo.

Realistically, I think the Jazz would take Hendricks or Dick at #9, then they'd take Hood-Schifino, George or Bufkin at #16. If someone reaches for Wallace or Black inside the top 8, then the Jazz would take whoever drops (e.g., Whitmore, Walker, Ausar, etc.) and run away grinning.

Black feels like a Dyson Daniels clone. I wonder what it would take NOP to part with Daniels now that some of the luster has worn off.

Catchall · Post #174 » by **Catchall** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:33 pm

bkohler wrote:
Catchall wrote:
WinterSoldier wrote:
Assuming no one falls, I think you take Black. I have him as my sixth best prospect anyway.

I'm not sold on Black right now. His shooting splits are comparable to Mathisse Thybulle. Teams are going back way off of him when he's on the ball. He has no mid-range game. I think he's a defensive-minded 2/3 who plays as a glue guy and connector. I like his defensive versatility and his ability to put pressure on the rim, but he isn't top 10 for me. If he's not going to shoot, he's not a starter, imo.

Realistically, I think the Jazz would take Hendricks or Dick at #9, then they'd take Hood-Schifino, George or Bufkin at #16. If someone reaches for Wallace or Black inside the top 8, then the Jazz would take whoever drops (e.g., Whitmore, Walker, Ausar, etc.) and run away grinning.

Black feels like a Dyson Daniels clone. I wonder what it would take NOP to part with Daniels now that some of the luster has worn off.

There are physical and statistical similarities between Daniels and Black. A couple things though: a) Daniels played in the G-league and I think scouts cut some slack on players' shooting percentages due to the size, speed and physicality of the league; b) Daniels was expected to learn to shoot, but it hasn't happened yet and he hasn't played much.

Word on the street (connection with connections, etc.) is that the Jazz like Hood-Schifino. He's big, he's a smooth and solid creator in pick-and-roll, he's got a mid-range game and he defends. He's someone to watch at #16.

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Post #175 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:08 am

babyjax13 wrote:
bkohler wrote:It’ll be interesting to see where Keynote ends up, seems like he’s been trending down for a while now.

I don't understand why (or I do, but I think it is wrong). He looks like he'll be able to generate his own offense really well + be a pretty high-caliber shooter off-ball. Maybe in that wide range between Jordan Clarkson and Devin Booker he's a bit closer to Clarkson than he is Booker, but that still seems like a top 10 pick to me.

The problem I have with George is that while he does look like he can create his own shot (I think Clarkson is a good comp), his shooting percentages are quite awful. 37.6%FG and 33.8%3PT is worrisome. Maybe he continues to improve and figures out how to score efficiently in the NBA but I'm always wary when I see a guy shooting below 40% from the field.

Hoops Addict · Post #176 » by **Hoops Addict** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:49 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:The NBA hopes no team will be able to draft both Anthony Black and Gradey Dick. They are terrified of a Black-Dick back court. And if Rudy Gay is still on the roster...

I'll see myself out.

Bwahahahahaha! To see all those three players in a row..........

Hoops Addict · Post #177 » by **Hoops Addict** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:56 pm

Hendricks passes the eye test for defense. He is great defensively, very fast and intimidating....if you bring weak sauce into the paint, he will easily block your shot. I see him as a Plus Defender.....that skill will translate to the nba.....he can guard 3 positions. And he shoots 39% from 3?

Post #178 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:05 pm

I'm less interested in players who play Kessler's and Markkanen's positions (C and, in my opinion, PF). Bringing in another shot-blocker is a low priority, at least for me, as we already have that with Kessler. What we don't have is good perimeter defense, good transition defense, shot creation from the back court (especially if Clarkson leaves), and we have a question mark at PG.

My priorities would be a true SF, and good shot creation from the perimeter.

babyjax13 · Post #179 » by **babyjax13** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:15 pm

bkohler wrote:I think he’s someone that will rise again once they get into workouts. I haven’t been enamored with either Keyonte or NSJ but I also am not a big fan of score first SGs with the way the league is right now.

I see lots of Eric Gordon in Keyonte and lots of Clarkson actually in NSJ.

I think Clarkson is the perfect comp for Smith. The guy Keyonte reminds me of the most is actually Jamal Murray.

bkohler · Post #180 » by **bkohler** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:52 pm

Hoops Addict wrote:Hendricks passes the eye test for defense. He is great defensively, very fast and intimidating....if you bring weak sauce into the paint, he will easily block your shot. I see him as a Plus Defender.....that skill will translate to the nba.....he can guard 3 positions. And he shoots 39% from 3?

I’m of the belief that the Jazz are special with Markkanen at the 3. That’s why I love Hendricks but am pretty certain he’ll be long gone by then (I could see him going 4/5).

Listening to Locke this morning and found some of the numbers around the top prospects concerning. Made me more interested in trading down / out.

Just lots of poor shooting amongst the group.