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Post#1221 » by Triple7 » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:21 am

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Feed Your Head wrote:Warriors were a MUCH better team last year.


Excuses excuses!


So they weren’t much better last year?

This feels dumb.


No not really! A lot of teams just got better!
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Post#1222 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:23 am

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We lost to them because our guys played scared against them. Instead of using our height advantage and athleticism in attacking inside, we jacked up 3’s hoping we can out shoot them lol. Plus it pays to have a point guard that can shoot and score, while we have Marcus who can’t shoot to save his life.

You keep blaming Smart who scored almost as much as Jrue and Lowry in their own Finals with better %s. But I can’t help you with your agenda.


I don’t give a **** about stats. I watch the game. Lowry and Jrue can both hit big shots when it mattered. I can’t say the same about Smart. If fact, i don’t want him taking any shots at all if its not layups. Whatever fan boy

Sorry that you wish to remain uninformed. Again, I can’t help you with the hate. Enjoy the playoffs cos Smarty ain’t sitting for you and your bad takes. Smart also don’t care about stats btw. ;)
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Post#1223 » by Feed Your Head » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:28 am

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Excuses excuses!


So they weren’t much better last year?

This feels dumb.


No not really! A lot of teams just got better!


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Post#1224 » by Triple7 » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:33 am

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zoyathedestroya wrote:You keep blaming Smart who scored almost as much as Jrue and Lowry in their own Finals with better %s. But I can’t help you with your agenda.


I don’t give a **** about stats. I watch the game. Lowry and Jrue can both hit big shots when it mattered. I can’t say the same about Smart. If fact, i don’t want him taking any shots at all if its not layups. Whatever fan boy

Sorry that you wish to remain uninformed. Again, I can’t help you with the hate. Enjoy the playoffs cos Smarty ain’t sitting for you and your bad takes. Smart also don’t care about stats btw. ;)


lol. I don’t hate smart at all. I hate that he finishes games, especially when we have players that are better. Much much better. Smart is this energizer bunny, and is best suited as a 6th man. A hustle energy player off the bench. This team will even be better at finishing games if they bench smart to finish. You are just being a fan boy. Even last game, i have watch the entire 4th qrt. The hawks made a run, when smart missed 3 straight shots, when he went out. My desired lineup of white, brog, Jays and horf were inside, and the lead went up again. Smart made two amazing defensive stops, i give him that, but the truth is he is giving a lot more being a liability on offense, than being good on defense.
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Post#1225 » by Triple7 » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:37 am

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zoyathedestroya wrote:You keep blaming Smart who scored almost as much as Jrue and Lowry in their own Finals with better %s. But I can’t help you with your agenda.


I don’t give a **** about stats. I watch the game. Lowry and Jrue can both hit big shots when it mattered. I can’t say the same about Smart. If fact, i don’t want him taking any shots at all if its not layups. Whatever fan boy

Sorry that you wish to remain uninformed. Again, I can’t help you with the hate. Enjoy the playoffs cos Smarty ain’t sitting for you and your bad takes. Smart also don’t care about stats btw. ;)


Of course smart doesn’t care about stats. It’s you guys that keeps on bringing in the stats. Like how smart has a better shooting percentage than Jrue and Lowry. I wouldn’t want lowry or jrue wide open for a 3pt shot regardless of their percentage, but if i’m he opponent, i will definitely leave smart wide open and dare him to shoot a wide open 3. Big diff, and percentages are thrown out the window.
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Post#1226 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:47 am

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I don’t give a **** about stats. I watch the game. Lowry and Jrue can both hit big shots when it mattered. I can’t say the same about Smart. If fact, i don’t want him taking any shots at all if its not layups. Whatever fan boy

Sorry that you wish to remain uninformed. Again, I can’t help you with the hate. Enjoy the playoffs cos Smarty ain’t sitting for you and your bad takes. Smart also don’t care about stats btw. ;)


lol. I don’t hate smart at all. I hate that he finishes games, especially when we have players that are better. Much much better. Smart is this energizer bunny, and is best suited as a 6th man. A hustle energy player off the bench. This team will even be better at finishing games if they bench smart to finish. You are just being a fan boy. Even last game, i have watch the entire 4th qrt. The hawks made a run, when smart missed 3 straight shots, when he went out. My desired lineup of white, brog, Jays and horf were inside, and the lead went up again. Smart made two amazing defensive stops, i give him that, but the truth is he is giving a lot more being a liability on offense, than being good on defense.

In the Finals, Smart’s shooting wasn’t much of an issue. Call him out for the slow pace and the turnovers but he made the shots when he needed to. It really was Tatum who the Cs needed more out of. As a 3rd scorer, 15ppg on decent %s would’ve been sufficient if Tatum had his normal game and we got something more out of the bench. I just find it funny that you default in calling out Smart in your posts.

Brogs was subpar in his minutes last game. I have no issue playing White as many minutes as he can handle. White is the perfect role player and is borderline all star when he’s on. Brogdon can be too ball-hoggy at times and is not nearly the same defender as Smart & White. But I don’t mind having another shotmaker on the floor if defense is locked in on the Jays.
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Post#1227 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:01 am

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Post#1228 » by Triple7 » Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:02 am

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zoyathedestroya wrote:Sorry that you wish to remain uninformed. Again, I can’t help you with the hate. Enjoy the playoffs cos Smarty ain’t sitting for you and your bad takes. Smart also don’t care about stats btw. ;)


lol. I don’t hate smart at all. I hate that he finishes games, especially when we have players that are better. Much much better. Smart is this energizer bunny, and is best suited as a 6th man. A hustle energy player off the bench. This team will even be better at finishing games if they bench smart to finish. You are just being a fan boy. Even last game, i have watch the entire 4th qrt. The hawks made a run, when smart missed 3 straight shots, when he went out. My desired lineup of white, brog, Jays and horf were inside, and the lead went up again. Smart made two amazing defensive stops, i give him that, but the truth is he is giving a lot more being a liability on offense, than being good on defense.

In the Finals, Smart’s shooting wasn’t much of an issue. Call him out for the slow pace and the turnovers but he made the shots when he needed to. It really was Tatum who the Cs needed more out of. As a 3rd scorer, 15ppg on decent %s would’ve been sufficient if Tatum had his normal game and we got something more out of the bench. I just find it funny that you default in calling out Smart in your posts.

Brogs was subpar in his minutes last game. I have no issue playing White as many minutes as he can handle. White is the perfect role player and is borderline all star when he’s on. Brogdon can be too ball-hoggy at times and is not nearly the same defender as Smart & White. But I don’t mind having another shotmaker on the floor if defense is locked in on the Jays.


I agree that if Tatum was himself in the finals, we would have had a good chance in that series. The thing with Smart, if you watch the finals again, there are a lot of smart bricks that would have changed the game entirely. There are times that we were down 5, could have easily cut it to two if smart makes a wide open 3, or we have a small lead, and a chance to have a cushion if smart makes a wide open 3. Those things happened a lot through out the game, and is over looked. I have no problem playing smart to finish, if he’s having a good game, also if one of white and brog are having a bad one. The thing that irritates me is when both white and brog are having a good offensive game, and smart is giving you nothing, and he still finishes the game. Teams defend us differently with smart inisde. They know he can’t shoot. Also, it’s not like brog and white are horrible defenders. Having both white and brog inside gives us a ton on offense, and more spacing for the Jays. Sorry, but that’s just how i see it. Smart sadly is just a specialist. If only he could shoot.
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Post#1229 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:25 am

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lol. I don’t hate smart at all. I hate that he finishes games, especially when we have players that are better. Much much better. Smart is this energizer bunny, and is best suited as a 6th man. A hustle energy player off the bench. This team will even be better at finishing games if they bench smart to finish. You are just being a fan boy. Even last game, i have watch the entire 4th qrt. The hawks made a run, when smart missed 3 straight shots, when he went out. My desired lineup of white, brog, Jays and horf were inside, and the lead went up again. Smart made two amazing defensive stops, i give him that, but the truth is he is giving a lot more being a liability on offense, than being good on defense.

In the Finals, Smart’s shooting wasn’t much of an issue. Call him out for the slow pace and the turnovers but he made the shots when he needed to. It really was Tatum who the Cs needed more out of. As a 3rd scorer, 15ppg on decent %s would’ve been sufficient if Tatum had his normal game and we got something more out of the bench. I just find it funny that you default in calling out Smart in your posts.

Brogs was subpar in his minutes last game. I have no issue playing White as many minutes as he can handle. White is the perfect role player and is borderline all star when he’s on. Brogdon can be too ball-hoggy at times and is not nearly the same defender as Smart & White. But I don’t mind having another shotmaker on the floor if defense is locked in on the Jays.


I agree that if Tatum was himself in the finals, we would have had a good chance in that series. The thing with Smart, if you watch the finals again, there are a lot of smart bricks that would have changed the game entirely. There are times that we were down 5, could have easily cut it to two if smart makes a wide open 3, or we have a small lead, and a chance to have a cushion if smart makes a wide open 3. Those things happened a lot through out the game, and is over looked. I have no problem playing smart to finish, if he’s having a good game, also if one of white and brog are having a bad one. The thing that irritates me is when both white and brog are having a good offensive game, and smart is giving you nothing, and he still finishes the game. Teams defend us differently with smart inisde. They know he can’t shoot. Also, it’s not like brog and white are horrible defenders. Having both white and brog inside gives us a ton on offense, and more spacing for the Jays. Sorry, but that’s just how i see it. Smart sadly is just a specialist. If only he could shoot.

Makes and misses happen. White missed some wide open ones. Grant and Al too. PP was basically useless in his short stints after game 1. Tatum couldn’t buy a bucket in game 6. JB scored a lot on okay efficiency but was turnover-prone. Any of those misses could’ve “changed the game.” Better ball security could’ve swung the games/series in our favor. But you’re honed in on Smart. I’m telling you the %s in the Finals to show you he didn’t miss as much as you think, objectively no more than the other guys you don’t want to put the blame on. If you don’t trust Smart moving forward just because, that’s fine, not here to change anyone’s mind. But to put the bulk of the blame on the Finals loss on his shooting/scoring (as you did on your post) is a bit unfair.

Smart never “gives you nothing”. On either side of the court.
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Post#1230 » by steefP2 » Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:37 am

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Post#1231 » by Triple7 » Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:39 am

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zoyathedestroya wrote:In the Finals, Smart’s shooting wasn’t much of an issue. Call him out for the slow pace and the turnovers but he made the shots when he needed to. It really was Tatum who the Cs needed more out of. As a 3rd scorer, 15ppg on decent %s would’ve been sufficient if Tatum had his normal game and we got something more out of the bench. I just find it funny that you default in calling out Smart in your posts.

Brogs was subpar in his minutes last game. I have no issue playing White as many minutes as he can handle. White is the perfect role player and is borderline all star when he’s on. Brogdon can be too ball-hoggy at times and is not nearly the same defender as Smart & White. But I don’t mind having another shotmaker on the floor if defense is locked in on the Jays.


I agree that if Tatum was himself in the finals, we would have had a good chance in that series. The thing with Smart, if you watch the finals again, there are a lot of smart bricks that would have changed the game entirely. There are times that we were down 5, could have easily cut it to two if smart makes a wide open 3, or we have a small lead, and a chance to have a cushion if smart makes a wide open 3. Those things happened a lot through out the game, and is over looked. I have no problem playing smart to finish, if he’s having a good game, also if one of white and brog are having a bad one. The thing that irritates me is when both white and brog are having a good offensive game, and smart is giving you nothing, and he still finishes the game. Teams defend us differently with smart inisde. They know he can’t shoot. Also, it’s not like brog and white are horrible defenders. Having both white and brog inside gives us a ton on offense, and more spacing for the Jays. Sorry, but that’s just how i see it. Smart sadly is just a specialist. If only he could shoot.

Makes and misses happen. White missed some wide open ones. Grant and Al too. PP was basically useless in his short stints after game 1. Tatum couldn’t buy a bucket in game 6. JB scored a lot on okay efficiency but was turnover-prone. Any of those misses could’ve “changed the game.” Better ball security could’ve swung the games/series in our favor. But you’re honed in on Smart. I’m telling you the %s in the Finals to show you he didn’t miss as much as you think, objectively no more than the other guys you don’t want to put the blame on. If you don’t trust Smart moving forward just because, that’s fine, not here to change anyone’s mind. But to put the bulk of the blame on the Finals loss on his shooting/scoring (as you did on your post) is a bit unfair.

Smart never “gives you nothing”. On either side of the court.


Ok let’s just agree to disagree on this. It’s obvious your Over all judgement for smart is clouded by you being a fan!
I said that i’m fine with smart finishing if he’s playing great, and gets irritated if he finishes and “gives you nothing” for the game, and both brog and white are playing great. When you said that Smart NEVER gives you nothing is a fan boy mentality.
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Post#1233 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:13 am

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I agree that if Tatum was himself in the finals, we would have had a good chance in that series. The thing with Smart, if you watch the finals again, there are a lot of smart bricks that would have changed the game entirely. There are times that we were down 5, could have easily cut it to two if smart makes a wide open 3, or we have a small lead, and a chance to have a cushion if smart makes a wide open 3. Those things happened a lot through out the game, and is over looked. I have no problem playing smart to finish, if he’s having a good game, also if one of white and brog are having a bad one. The thing that irritates me is when both white and brog are having a good offensive game, and smart is giving you nothing, and he still finishes the game. Teams defend us differently with smart inisde. They know he can’t shoot. Also, it’s not like brog and white are horrible defenders. Having both white and brog inside gives us a ton on offense, and more spacing for the Jays. Sorry, but that’s just how i see it. Smart sadly is just a specialist. If only he could shoot.

Makes and misses happen. White missed some wide open ones. Grant and Al too. PP was basically useless in his short stints after game 1. Tatum couldn’t buy a bucket in game 6. JB scored a lot on okay efficiency but was turnover-prone. Any of those misses could’ve “changed the game.” Better ball security could’ve swung the games/series in our favor. But you’re honed in on Smart. I’m telling you the %s in the Finals to show you he didn’t miss as much as you think, objectively no more than the other guys you don’t want to put the blame on. If you don’t trust Smart moving forward just because, that’s fine, not here to change anyone’s mind. But to put the bulk of the blame on the Finals loss on his shooting/scoring (as you did on your post) is a bit unfair.

Smart never “gives you nothing”. On either side of the court.


Ok let’s just agree to disagree on this. It’s obvious your Over all judgement for smart is clouded by you being a fan!
I said that i’m fine with smart finishing if he’s playing great, and gets irritated if he finishes and “gives you nothing” for the game, and both brog and white are playing great. When you said that Smart NEVER gives you nothing is a fan boy mentality.

Assists, screen-setting, box outs, energy and hustle on D, steals, charge-taking, calling out defensive coverage, calling out offensive sets.

Never nothing. Even if he has a 0-point game. Which has happened maybe three times in the last four seasons.

I thought you were speaking in hyperbole. But apparently that’s really how low you think of Smart. And my objectivity is the one that’s clouded?? Foh.
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Post#1235 » by Triple7 » Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:07 am

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zoyathedestroya wrote:Makes and misses happen. White missed some wide open ones. Grant and Al too. PP was basically useless in his short stints after game 1. Tatum couldn’t buy a bucket in game 6. JB scored a lot on okay efficiency but was turnover-prone. Any of those misses could’ve “changed the game.” Better ball security could’ve swung the games/series in our favor. But you’re honed in on Smart. I’m telling you the %s in the Finals to show you he didn’t miss as much as you think, objectively no more than the other guys you don’t want to put the blame on. If you don’t trust Smart moving forward just because, that’s fine, not here to change anyone’s mind. But to put the bulk of the blame on the Finals loss on his shooting/scoring (as you did on your post) is a bit unfair.

Smart never “gives you nothing”. On either side of the court.


Ok let’s just agree to disagree on this. It’s obvious your Over all judgement for smart is clouded by you being a fan!
I said that i’m fine with smart finishing if he’s playing great, and gets irritated if he finishes and “gives you nothing” for the game, and both brog and white are playing great. When you said that Smart NEVER gives you nothing is a fan boy mentality.

Assists, screen-setting, box outs, energy and hustle on D, steals, charge-taking, calling out defensive coverage, calling out offensive sets.

Never nothing. Even if he has a 0-point game. Which has happened maybe three times in the last four seasons.

I thought you were speaking in hyperbole. But apparently that’s really how low you think of Smart. And my objectivity is the one that’s clouded?? Foh.


Classic fan boy mentality. The dude is never wrong in your eyes. Smart is a vital part of this team. His energy and leadership is never doubted. I just don’t like him finishing, when we have better two way players (brog and white) to finish. Poole and Curry clowed us most of the finals, and i didn’t see smart locking up those guys at all. Good offense beats good defense most of the time.
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Post#1238 » by Fantaxp7 » Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:27 pm

How hilarious would it be if what Draymond did is what ended up being what drives them to the end of their dynasty?

Some world class stupid right there...I'm sure he'll blame the booing on race again...
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Post#1239 » by shackles10 » Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:35 pm

At this point I fully expect Draymond to just wear black forces to every game IYKYK.

I used to say the NBA gifted the Cavs a title by suspending Draymond, but how can you defend someone as dirty as Dray? He seems to up the ante almost every time and you’d think if you cost your team a title and your entire reputation as a successful player is built on team success and your contributions to that you’d dial it back but he’s done the opposite. Fans can be gross and over the top but when he’s out there jawing and doing more than any of them calling them pussies with complete unawareness he’s about to be thrown out of a game when they’re looking at 0-2. It has to be exhausting for Steph and Klay.
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Next to winning the title, nothing would please me more than the Warriors and Lakers getting eliminated early (at least give me one!)

Celts need to beat the Lakers in the finals to remove that stench of that game 7 loss to Kobe and the Lakers in 2010.


That was hard to swallow! A lakers celtics finals would be something else, but i’d rather the lakers don’t reach the finals and lebron don’t get a shot a a ring, and 18th banner for the lakers. Give me the kings or the clippers please

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