OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19)

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I feel kind of bad for Kaprielian. He's not had an easy inning yet.

And he's been removed. 3.2 innings, 4 hits, 7 walks (ouch), 6 runs, one grand salami. 12.15 era on the season.

[NYKnickerbocker]

You shouldn’t be able to own a team of your gunna run them like the A’s owner does lmao. This roster is truly terrible

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17 walks for the Mets. 1 shy of the record for a 9 inning game.

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17-6 is pretty funny. And I agree NYKnickerbocker. The A's are a joke. They had some decent seasons for a small market team, but this year - ouch. They should be sold.

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OMG the A’s are the suckiest team in baseball and they play in a hell hole.

[blueNorange]

glad we have escobar at third

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glad we have escobar at third

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Maybe it’s time to send him to AA where - as you claim - the best minor league pitchers are.

Baty will be up with the Mets on April 25 for the Nats series.

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Mets bring Butto up to start today’s game

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baty has been called up

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Mets bring Butto up to start today’s game

Good call on Butto. You predicted he'd get the call a while ago.

Nogosek to the DL (he was hit be a liner). Santana was waived (he was picked up on waivers about a month ago, no big loss if he doesn't clear). Yacabonis called up - that's just calling up a fresh arm, not much to read into that.

baty has been called up

No word on who Baty's replacing on the 26 but my guess is Locastro, who's 0 for 7 but he does have 3 HBPs and 3 SBs. So maybe it's someone else. I don't think they're going to send down a pitcher and Locastro looks like the most expendable.

Escobar is still going to get playing time, just not as much. The Mets have almost no hitters on their bench. Escobar is struggline big time, Vogelbach is struggling. Guillorme draws enough walks to not kill you, but he's not a good hitter. Nido is awful so far, McNeil is struggling a bit so far too but he does have 10 walks, so he's not 100% useless and Canha struggling a bit too. They're struggling at the bottom of the roster and Baty hopefully helps push everyone down a slot and improve their hitting.

I know it's early, but just 5 mets who are hitting well so far, Alonso, Lindor, Marte & Nimmo and Pham . . . a bit. Another hitter would help a lot.

Alvarez is 1 for 11, but just 11 ABs, so, he gets a pass. He's a feast or famine type of player anyway.

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I haven't read this anywhere, but it looks like Baty isn't on the roster today, he's going to join the team after today's game. Presumably replacing Butto after his start. Escobar starting today. If Escobar can hit a little bit, he's fine off the bench. He's a switch hitter, but traditionally better as a righty to go with Baty and McNeil being lefties. I'm curious to see what the roster move will be. Escobar or Locastro. I don't think they'll go with 1 less pitcher for more than a few days.

[blueNorange]

locastro shouldn’t even be in the major leagues

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Mets bring Butto up to start today’s game

Good call on Butto. You predicted he'd get the call a while ago.

Nogosek to the DL (he was hit be a liner). Santana was waived (he was picked up on waivers about a month ago, no big loss if he doesn't clear). Yacabonis called up - that's just calling up a fresh arm, not much to read into that.

baty has been called up

No word on who Baty's replacing on the 26 but my guess is Locastro, who's 0 for 7 but he does have 3 HBPs and 3 SBs. So maybe it's someone else. I don't think they're going to send down a pitcher and Locastro looks like the most expendable.

Escobar is still going to get playing time, just not as much. The Mets have almost no hitters on their bench. Escobar is struggline big time, Vogelbach is struggling. Guillorme draws enough walks to not kill you, but he's not a good hitter. Nido is awful so far, McNeil is struggling a bit so far too but he does have 10 walks, so he's not 100% useless and Canha struggling a bit too. They're struggling at the bottom of the roster and Baty hopefully helps push everyone down a slot and improve their hitting.

I know it's early, but just 5 mets who are hitting well so far, Alonso, Lindor, Marte & Nimmo and Pham . . . a bit. Another hitter would help a lot.

Alvarez is 1 for 11, but just 11 ABs, so, he gets a pass. He's a feast or famine type of player anyway.

I didn’t realize that Escobar was hitting around .111. Jesus. I mean some players just get off to slow starts but wow. I’m sure that Buck will figure it out.

Mauricio and Vientos are also killing it. Future looks bright.

Butto is holding his own so far after 3. If we can get 5 innings from him that would be great.

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I didn’t realize that Escobar was hitting around .111. Jesus. I mean some players just get off to slow starts but wow. I’m sure that Buck will figure it out.

Mauricio and Vientos are also killing it. Future looks bright.

Butto is holding his own so far after 3. If we can get 5 innings from him that would be great.

He got a hit today, he's up to .125 and he's outhitting Nido and Alvarez (who's now 1 for 15 - ouch). I'm curious what the Mets will do, but they could just cut him, like they did with Cano.

Nice win today. Wins always feel good when they're won in the 9th and 10th inning. Alonso is a beast.

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I didn’t realize that Escobar was hitting around .111. Jesus. I mean some players just get off to slow starts but wow. I’m sure that Buck will figure it out.

Mauricio and Vientos are also killing it. Future looks bright.

Butto is holding his own so far after 3. If we can get 5 innings from him that would be great.

He got a hit today, he's up to .125 and he's outhitting Nido and Alvarez (who's now 1 for 15 - ouch). I'm curious what the Mets will do, but they could just cut him, like they did with Cano.

Nice win today. Wins always feel good when they're won in the 9th and 10th inning. Alonso is a beast.

Indeed! Alsonso is raking and Lindor is picking things up lately. It was good to get these 3 against the A's.

On Escobar, yes I can see Cohen just releasing him at this point. We have Guillorme to back Baty up at 3B. The organization must feeling confident that he’s ready.

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As of 04/16/2023, here's our top prospects in the minors:

Syracuse players to watch
Brett Baty - .400/.500/.886 5 HRs 15 RBIs *Heading to Majors*
Mark Vientos - .346/.417/.692 5 HRs 13 RBIs *Playing 1B, 3B and DH in minors*
Ronny Mauricio - .351/.403/.790 6 HRs 14 RBIs *didn't draw a walk this week and already had 4 error in 14 games*

Relief Pitcher to watch
Grant Hartwig - AAA - 7 IP 0 ER 4 BB 9 SO

He is 25 years old and could debut in the majors this year. He shot up 4 levels last year with a total of 39 games appearance and has a 1.75 ERA. His downside is his control as he gets higher to the minors.

Binghamton players to watch
Dominic Hamel (24 yo) - former 2021 3rd rounder - 2 GS/ 1.73 ERA / 7.1 IP / 10 SO / 8 BB

Mike Vasil (23 yo) - former 2021 8th rounder - 2 GS / 3.00 ERA / 6.0 IP / 13 SO / 1 BB

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As of 04/16/2023, here's our top prospects in the minors:

Syracuse players to watch
Brett Baty - .400/.500/.886 5 HRs 15 RBIs *Heading to Majors*
Mark Vientos - .346/.417/.692 5 HRs 13 RBIs *Playing 1B, 3B and DH in minors*
Ronny Mauricio - .351/.403/.790 6 HRs 14 RBIs *didn't draw a walk this week and already had 4 error in 14 games*

Relief Pitcher to watch
Grant Hartwig - AAA - 7 IP 0 ER 4 BB 9 SO

He is 25 years old and could debut in the majors this year. He shot up 4 levels last year with a total of 39 games appearance and has a 1.75 ERA. His downside is his control as he gets higher to the minors.

Binghamton players to watch
Dominic Hamel (24 yo) - former 2021 3rd rounder - 2 GS/ 1.73 ERA / 7.1 IP / 10 SO / 8 BB

Mike Vasil (23 yo) - former 2021 8th rounder - 2 GS / 3.00 ERA / 6.0 IP / 13 SO / 1 BB

Vientos' 28% K rate is concerning, the same as last year. If he K's that much in AAA, what's he going to do in MLB? Granted, he's a big guy who maybe puts up Giancarlo Stanton type numbers (Current Stanton not MVP Stanton). High K rate players can have an impact, so it's possible. Right now there's not a spot for him though. Vogel & Pham are doing OK in the DH spot so far, but he's probably the next player to be called up if needed.

Mauricio is showing solid progress over last year, which is good, considering his lack of progress last year was a concern. His K rate and walk rates are both better than last year. I think he's a keeper now.

Hartwig was ranked 29 in MLB's mets top 30. He probably sees some bullpen time this year I would think.

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/mets/grant-hartwig-701643

There's still not a ton of pitching depth. Lucchesi & Bundy are probably next in line, but Butto's start was encouraging. Hope he keeps it up.

Hamel & Vasil probably get more time in the the minors and probably (I think) don't get called up till 2024 sometime. Junior Santos might be in that mix as well. It feels like he's been around forever and I'm not basing this on anything more than a hunch, but I'm less of a believer in him. Those are the 3 starting pitchers with "2024" next to their names in the Mets top 30 prospect list.

Outside of those 3 pitchers, there's not much in Binghamton to look forward to. Most of the talent is in A, A+ or AAA.

Joel Diaz had Tommy John, so he's missing the year. Matt Allan is missing another year (he can't catch a break) and their top pitching prospect, Blade Tidwell, is a couple years away, so . . . high hopes for Hamel & Vasil. We'll might need those two for starting pitcher depth over 2024/25.

Other's to watch:

Blade Tidwell A+. 2 or 3 years away. 2 starts, 6.1 innings in A+ so very small sample size. 10Ks to 5 hits is a good ratio, but he gave up a homer and 3 walks, so his ERA is kinda high. Still probably their top ranked pitching prospect. 2 years away if all goes well.

Alex Ramirez A+. A youngster, at just 20 years old. Solid numbers. Nice upside, especially if he can stay in CF. Mets highest ranked OF prospect. Probably on track for a 2025 callup, late 2024 if things break just right, but I think 2025.

And, ofcourse, last year's top pick, Kevin Parada, just 8 games into the season, but a homer, a double and 9 walks to 8 Ks. .250 .447 .393 .840 and his junior year in college: .361 .453 .709 1.162. Parada's a stud and very likely going to be our top prospect by the end of the year. Probably doesn't see majors till 2025. Maybe late 2024 . . . (Maybe) if there's a need, but catchers should take their time in the minors. 2025 I think.

Jett Williams (low A). Just 19. Jett had top 10, maybe top 5 tools in last year's draft, but being just 5'6 he slipped to 14. 9 walks in 8 games (10Ks), 3 extra base hits. Might be able to move to CF, or stick in the infield. Low average, but small sample size and the walks and xbhs boost his OPS. 214 .436 .429 .865

Jacob Reimer is another 19 year old high school pick last year (4th round) who might have some upside, also playing in low A.

Who's hot:

Matt Rudick (AA) is a fun one. Drafted in 2021 after redshirting (still more of a star trek reference to me, than college sports, but I think it means, plays a 4th year or something like that, which, they can do if they miss a year, often it's the freshman year that's missed, but Covid was a missed season too) . . and obviously the 2020 college season was greatly shortened due to covid, but his 2021 season, even for college, was kind of ridiculous. 410 average, 26 walks to 9 Ks for a .484 OBP. He's a pitcher's nightmare. A contact hitter who's just 5'6. He's hard to strike out and he's hitting well in AA so far. Could be a fun bat to look for in 2024. Numbers so far: .333 .440 .762 1.202 with 3 walks and only 2 Ks. Rudick wasn't a prospect coming out of college, despite his numbers and he's a contact over power guy, slipping to the 13th round, but it looks like he can hit, so there's a chance.

Stanley Consuegra (A+) is a glove over bat type who drew Juan Lagares comparisons when signed as an international free agent. .306 .405 .639 1.044 so far and could be promoted to AA soonish, maybe mid-year. If he can continue to hit, he probably sees majors sometime in 2024 or 2025.

Finally, I don't know a thing about César Berbesi (A+), but he is hitting .381, so I'll watch him for fun anyway. No idea where he stands as a prospect.

The Mets traded away a fair number of prospects but kept nearly all the top ones, so they're in pretty good shape for the next few seasons as far as minor league promotions go. It's not a top 10 system, especially after Alvarez & Baty graduate, which is immanent, but there's some talent there. Some players to look forward to. The one thing I wish they had, which they don't, is a potential ace or two. They have a few pitchers, but none that look like top of the rotation types.

Sorry if I yaked on a bit too much. I tend to do that.

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Junior Santos? Is he the son of former Mets catcher Junior Santos? If so, then that would make his son Junior Santos, Jr.