is Klay done?

[GunnerWRX]

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Franchise killer if true.

Steph sacrificed money early.
Wiggs just sacrificed money on his extension.
Hopefully dray also sacrafices.

Poole went for the bag, but can't blame him since it's his first big one. It's on Myers for offering it.

I have klay behind steph, dray, wiggs, and loon with regard to importance.

Please stop with that Steph sacrificed $ narrative. Go back and read the news if you didn't or have forgotten about it.

Many thought the extension was a bad risk given his health at the time. Even among diehard Warriors fans.

He got secured $ without hitting FA, at a price and contract length that many thought was a bad gamble.

He didn't sacrifice anything.

He got as much as he could, given his health, as an extension, having security before hitting FA after 1 more season.

"Bad risk"? I'm not sure any reasonable fan saw it that way. Curry had recurring ankle injuries that hurt his value in negotiating an extension, but I think the general consensus was that without those injuries he was worth much more. In other words, it was a fair value contract given the risk assumed by GSW.

Of course it was fair. Market value. Enough people thought it was a good gamble, and enough thought it was a risk, that makes it fair.

If it was a no brainer either way, then it wasn't a "fair" deal.

My point was he didn't "sacrifice". He got market value.

[watch1958]

Depends on how competitive they are for a championship this year and next. We’ll have to wait and see how the Poole contract affects the negotiating dynamic.

[Dom801e]

Do not bring him back after next year.

[Warriorfan]

Klay can have a Ray Allen Reggie Miller career and contribute until age 36-38 as a spot starter.

[GunnerWRX]

Klay can have a Ray Allen Reggie Miller career and contribute until age 36-38 as a spot starter.

Don't doubt that at all. But we can't pay him $45M for his 35-38 years if we even aspire to be a playoff team.

[Upperclass]

His best position has been as a 6th/7th man for the past 2 season.. but as long as Steph is starting, I dont think Kerr has the will to bring him off the bench

[watch1958]

Klay can have a Ray Allen Reggie Miller career and contribute until age 36-38 as a spot starter.

Don't doubt that at all. But we can't pay him $45M for his 35-38 years if we even aspire to be a playoff team.

The negotiating trap is that we really can’t afford even 30-35M, but we gave it to Poole. Much easier to hold the line with Klay and Draymond, if they had just made Jordan wait until the end of the season.

[wco81]

Klay can have a Ray Allen Reggie Miller career and contribute until age 36-38 as a spot starter.

Don't doubt that at all. But we can't pay him $45M for his 35-38 years if we even aspire to be a playoff team.

Let's say he took $20 million a year for his next contract.

Or even $15 million.

Does that open up a big salary slot for the Warriors to sign a good rotation player?

Or does it just save the team a lot in luxury taxes.

They have so many other high salaries that cutting Klay's salary by half or more isn't going to let the Warriors sign a $20 million a year FA.

[Impuniti]

Klay can have a Ray Allen Reggie Miller career and contribute until age 36-38 as a spot starter.

Don't doubt that at all. But we can't pay him $45M for his 35-38 years if we even aspire to be a playoff team.

Let's say he took $20 million a year for his next contract.

Or even $15 million.

Does that open up a big salary slot for the Warriors to sign a good rotation player?

Or does it just save the team a lot in luxury taxes.

They have so many other high salaries that cutting Klay's salary by half or more isn't going to let the Warriors sign a $20 million a year FA.

Ok, so pay him an idiotic contract, possibly the worst in the league just because they're spending a lot of money? What kind of.. thinking is this?

Klay deserves at best 20m a year right now, at best. He also didn't play for two whole seasons and grabbed 70 million in the meantime that the Warriors could have used on talent. Currently one of the worst contracts in the league. If he wants a supermax, time to trade his ass in the summer for some solid depth. Good luck getting it then.

[Impuniti]

Klay can have a Ray Allen Reggie Miller career and contribute until age 36-38 as a spot starter.

Don't doubt that at all. But we can't pay him $45M for his 35-38 years if we even aspire to be a playoff team.

The negotiating trap is that we really can’t afford even 30-35M, but we gave it to Poole. Much easier to hold the line with Klay and Draymond, if they had just made Jordan wait until the end of the season.

JP wouldn't be getting more than 25m even with lottery teams the way he's played this season.

[wco81]

Don't doubt that at all. But we can't pay him $45M for his 35-38 years if we even aspire to be a playoff team.

Let's say he took $20 million a year for his next contract.

Or even $15 million.

Does that open up a big salary slot for the Warriors to sign a good rotation player?

Or does it just save the team a lot in luxury taxes.

They have so many other high salaries that cutting Klay's salary by half or more isn't going to let the Warriors sign a $20 million a year FA.

Ok, so pay him an idiotic contract, possibly the worst in the league just because they're spending a lot of money? What kind of.. thinking is this?

Klay deserves at best 20m a year right now, at best. He also didn't play for two whole seasons and grabbed 70 million in the meantime that the Warriors could have used on talent. Currently one of the worst contracts in the league. If he wants a supermax, time to trade his ass in the summer for some solid depth. Good luck getting it then.

The point is, it doesn't make a different to roster construction.

If you really want to save money, let him walk then. He will cost them zero dollars.

But that doesn't get them a salary slot back does it?

And now they have a big hole for a 20 point scorer who's a knockdown shooter.

How does that help the team?

Klay got this contract because he was a key part of them going to all these Finals and winning the 4 championships, well 3 at the time he got injured.

Lacob could have tried to deny him a full max back in 2019.

So what's your whining about? What he makes in the next contract, whether with the Warriors or another team, isn't going to help the Warriors' payroll problems one bit.

How is making Klay take less than half of what's he's now making or driving him off the team going to make the team better, genius?

[xdrta+]

Don't doubt that at all. But we can't pay him $45M for his 35-38 years if we even aspire to be a playoff team.

The negotiating trap is that we really can’t afford even 30-35M, but we gave it to Poole. Much easier to hold the line with Klay and Draymond, if they had just made Jordan wait until the end of the season.

JP wouldn't be getting more than 25m even with lottery teams the way he's played this season.

And he's getting $27M from the warriors. So you say they're overpaying him by 2 million?

[Crazy-Canuck]

Klay can have a Ray Allen Reggie Miller career and contribute until age 36-38 as a spot starter.

Don't doubt that at all. But we can't pay him $45M for his 35-38 years if we even aspire to be a playoff team.

Let's say he took $20 million a year for his next contract.

Or even $15 million.

Does that open up a big salary slot for the Warriors to sign a good rotation player?

Or does it just save the team a lot in luxury taxes.

They have so many other high salaries that cutting Klay's salary by half or more isn't going to let the Warriors sign a $20 million a year FA.

If the choice is to give klay a 40M or even a 30M extension or let him walk, you let him walk. Imo, I would prefer to trade him and pray someone needs an expiring contract and has depth to spare, especially wings.

Slide poole into the starting line up. The scoring combo guard archetype is the easiest to find. Rollins might even be that guy.

This dray suspension might make it easier to extend him.

[wco81]

I'm not advocating for what Klay gets. It's not my money so I don't care what the team does.

If the cap situation were such that it opened up big cap space, I'd absolutely be for him giving a big home town discount or leaving.

But since that's not the case, I don't get exercised over how much he deserves to be paid.

[KevinMcreynolds]

Klay’s deficiencies have been glaring in this series and last years playoffs. He’s lost a step and when the defensive intensity turns up in the playoffs he’s not effective outside of spot up shooting. He’s not even able to take bigs one on one. Like someone said, he can be a Ray Allen on the Heat type contributor from here on out and just space the floor and knockdown 3’s but he still thinks he’s a top player in this league, so I don’t think he’s going to embrace that role any time soon. We have to move on after next year.

[bay2hk]

Someone will pay Klay after his contract expires. It'll be 2 - 3 years but I think he'll still get a pretty good AAV. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets more than $100M over 3 years. Dray will likely get the same after this season as well.

Dwade got 2 years ~$48M from the Bulls and this was like 7 years ago, so Klay will get more because he doesn't rely on his athleticism to be effective.

[Impuniti]

Someone will pay Klay after his contract expires. It'll be 2 - 3 years but I think he'll still get a pretty good AAV. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets more than $100M over 3 years. Dray will likely get the same after this season as well.

Dwade got 2 years ~$48M from the Bulls and this was like 7 years ago, so Klay will get more because he doesn't rely on his athleticism to be effective.

Nobody is giving Draymond anything close to 100 million

[bay2hk]

Someone will pay Klay after his contract expires. It'll be 2 - 3 years but I think he'll still get a pretty good AAV. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets more than $100M over 3 years. Dray will likely get the same after this season as well.

Dwade got 2 years ~$48M from the Bulls and this was like 7 years ago, so Klay will get more because he doesn't rely on his athleticism to be effective.

Nobody is giving Draymond anything close to 100 million

LeGM and the Pistons disagrees.

[Impuniti]

Someone will pay Klay after his contract expires. It'll be 2 - 3 years but I think he'll still get a pretty good AAV. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets more than $100M over 3 years. Dray will likely get the same after this season as well.

Dwade got 2 years ~$48M from the Bulls and this was like 7 years ago, so Klay will get more because he doesn't rely on his athleticism to be effective.

Nobody is giving Draymond anything close to 100 million

LeGM and the Pistons disagrees.

Pistons Yeah, I'm sure they're dying to overpay for a guy that levels young players.

His only hope is LeGM forcing the Lakers hand on a bloated contract, Knowing Lebron, he would probably do it moreso to slow Steph from winning more than bringing Dray in to win with him.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Recent extensions:

Poole 28M
Wiggs 24M
Loon 7M

I cant see lacob giving dray or klay even 25M per year extension.