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Post#181 » by 76ciology » Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:12 pm

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Post#182 » by Jailblazers7 » Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:52 pm

There is going to be some intense campaigning about the refs in the Boston/Philly series. The Al Horford moving screens are going to drive me insane.
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Post#183 » by 76ciology » Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:58 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:There is going to be some intense campaigning about the refs in the Boston/Philly series. The Al Horford moving screens are going to drive me insane.


Yes!

Horford rolling on PnR while screening the helper or pushing the defender when he pops to get better looks and Marcus Smart flopping to the ground to create a better separation for the off ball shooter like Draymond used to do.
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Post#184 » by 76ciology » Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:09 pm

Been watching a lot of Celts clips. Celts vs Warriors finals. Celts vs Heat, Celts vs us this season and Celts vs Hawks.

Horford attempts the most 3s against us (7.7) and shoots at 43%. But despite all that he’s just averaging 10ppg on 9 shots.

The key to beat the Celts is for your big to sag into the paint to help protect the rim. The mistake with the Hawks is Capela is sticking too close to Al. So now, Celts does not only have a 5 out offense but they are also playing 4v3 with Trae being a liability on the floor.

Biid has challenged the most shots of Tatum and is limiting him to 34% shooting. But Tatum’s primary defenders are Melton, Tobi and Tucker, Tatum is shooting 50% on all 3.

Tobi and Harden defended Jaylen Brown the most and both guys are limiting Brown to 33% shooting.

Al Horford is bad in defending Embiid (64FG%) and Harden (67FG%). He’s the guy we need to target if they play 5 out. But Maxey can’t shake off DWhite and he’s just shooting 31% off him.
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Post#185 » by Jailblazers7 » Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:45 pm

Kawhi is so damn good. The past 3-4 years feel like a lost generation because Kawhi hasn’t been able to stay healthy. Lebron exited his prime & left a power vacuum that Kawhi should have filled. He staked his claim in Toronto but then disappeared due to injuries.
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Post#186 » by mjkvol » Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:24 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:Kawhi is so damn good. The past 3-4 years feel like a lost generation because Kawhi hasn’t been able to stay healthy.


Man, that is so true. If Kawhi had been able to remain healthy, to me he is the best player in the last 25 years.
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Post#187 » by phillynative » Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:28 pm

76ciology wrote:Been watching a lot of Celts clips. Celts vs Warriors finals. Celts vs Heat, Celts vs us this season and Celts vs Hawks.

Horford attempts the most 3s against us (7.7) and shoots at 43%. But despite all that he’s just averaging 10ppg on 9 shots.

The key to beat the Celts is for your big to sag into the paint to help protect the rim. The mistake with the Hawks is Capela is sticking too close to Al. So now, Celts does not only have a 5 out offense but they are also playing 4v3 with Trae being a liability on the floor.

Biid has challenged the most shots of Tatum and is limiting him to 34% shooting. But Tatum’s primary defenders are Melton, Tobi and Tucker, Tatum is shooting 50% on all 3.

Tobi and Harden defended Jaylen Brown the most and both guys are limiting Brown to 33% shooting.

Al Horford is bad in defending Embiid (64FG%) and Harden (67FG%). He’s the guy we need to target if they play 5 out. But Maxey can’t shake off DWhite and he’s just shooting 31% off him.


We are at our best defensively when Embiid can stay close to the paint. Horford and Griffin at the stretch 5 hitting wide open 3's contributed to two of the losses against them and I'm pretty sure that will be the celtics go to.
Maxey , McDaniels and Reed will be key against Celtics.

Maxey will have to step it up on both ends against the Celtics. Derrick White has been a problem and has outplayed Maxey in the regular season matchups and has played well lately in general. We are going to need Maxey to cancel out or equal Whites production.

McDaniel is a tall, long ,athletic defender. Hes lengthy but quick and will be able to switch and defend multiple players. He should be able to defend Tatum, Brown , White or Brogdon. He also offers a little more resistance around the rim than Tucker and Tobias when Embiid is pulled out of the paint.

Reed will have to continue his play for us and hold down the paint during the Embiidless mins. The Celtics are deeper and they have Robert Williams who is one of the best rim protectors coming off the bench. He is also a lob threat who I believe will complete more than the Nets have so far to Claxton who has struggled. Continued chemistry building with Harden will go a long way.
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Post#188 » by Stanford » Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:04 pm

Have Warrior fans always been like this?
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Post#189 » by Jailblazers7 » Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:09 pm

It’s gotta warp your brain to root for & defend a guy like Draymond for 10 years. The guy is just a classic bully & deserves zero benefit of the doubt.
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Post#190 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:43 pm

IDK, I kind of like Draymond Green. I mean, he really isn't all that good anymore, but he's still a big time jerk and a bully and the NBA needs guys like these. Is he excessive at times? Yeah, I think he is, but no worse then what I saw growing up watching this game.

Now, I'm sure somebody will quote me calling me insensitive and then spin my words to make it sound like I'm ok with Green kicking people in the nuts, and stepping on players, but before you do that....I'm a 80s/90s kid. That's the era that I grew up in, guys were physical back them, there were plenty of goons/enforcers back then. The world renowned John Stockton who everyone just loves was a dirty, dirty player. Guys like Charles Oakley were picking fights on a nightly basis. The stuff Bill Laimbeer used to pull makes Draymond look tame in comparison. Anthony Mason, Xavier McDaniel, Kevin McHale once clotheslined Kurt Rambis in a game. Dennis Rodman was kicking camera men and getting suspended every other week during his career. Bruce Bowen may be the all time most dirtiest player ever to play and people love him and he's associated with all the championships the Spurs won. Bowen should be credited for inventing the 3&D player. Reggie Miller kicking his leg out when he shot the ball (there's a violation created on Reggie's behalf). Kurt Thomas was a mean SOB (Ya'll remember him)? Dikembe Mutombo has a mile long rap sheet of opposing players he sent to the locker room. Rich Mahorn, Ron Artest, CHARLES BARKLEY.

We need players like Draymond Green in this game. Again, I'm not all about players hurting each other, but this league is extremely soft compared to past eras. I'm not some old head, set in his old ways otherwise I would have quit watching this sport ten years ago when each game started to become a three point contest. The players clearly run the league and the majority of them just want to hoop, and get paid a ton of money doing so. Who can blame them?
So yeah...Draymond Green, Grayson Allen, George Niang, Dillon Brooks, Pat Bev...Yeah these guys are jerks, but you love them if they are on your team. Draymond Green being a bully has helped the Warriors win 4 NBA titles. Some of the other names I've listed were literally pioneers of the game in certain aspects. ALL of them played on winning, contending, championship level teams.
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Post#191 » by Jailblazers7 » Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:18 am

My biggest issue with Draymond is that his behavior has gotten worse as his ability declines. He’s become a caricature of himself & his ego is now totally self-destructive. I always enjoyed the Warriors big 3 but now Dray (& Klay honestly) have become bitter sore losers who can’t accept their decline.
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Post#192 » by Sixerscan » Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:37 am

The crazy thing is the warriors basically used to be the kings as a franchise before this whole run. Think they made the playoffs like once in 20 years or something nuts.
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Post#193 » by mjkvol » Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:45 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:IDK, I kind of like Draymond Green. I mean, he really isn't all that good anymore, but he's still a big time jerk and a bully and the NBA needs guys like these. Is he excessive at times? Yeah, I think he is, but no worse then what I saw growing up watching this game.

Now, I'm sure somebody will quote me calling me insensitive and then spin my words to make it sound like I'm ok with Green kicking people in the nuts, and stepping on players, but before you do that....I'm a 80s/90s kid. That's the era that I grew up in, guys were physical back them, there were plenty of goons/enforcers back then. The world renowned John Stockton who everyone just loves was a dirty, dirty player. Guys like Charles Oakley were picking fights on a nightly basis. The stuff Bill Laimbeer used to pull makes Draymond look tame in comparison. Anthony Mason, Xavier McDaniel, Kevin McHale once clotheslined Kurt Rambis in a game. Dennis Rodman was kicking camera men and getting suspended every other week during his career. Bruce Bowen may be the all time most dirtiest player ever to play and people love him and he's associated with all the championships the Spurs won. Bowen should be credited for inventing the 3&D player. Reggie Miller kicking his leg out when he shot the ball (there's a violation created on Reggie's behalf). Kurt Thomas was a mean SOB (Ya'll remember him)? Dikembe Mutombo has a mile long rap sheet of opposing players he sent to the locker room. Rich Mahorn, Ron Artest, CHARLES BARKLEY.

We need players like Draymond Green in this game. Again, I'm not all about players hurting each other, but this league is extremely soft compared to past eras. I'm not some old head, set in his old ways otherwise I would have quit watching this sport ten years ago when each game started to become a three point contest. The players clearly run the league and the majority of them just want to hoop, and get paid a ton of money doing so. Who can blame them?
So yeah...Draymond Green, Grayson Allen, George Niang, Dillon Brooks, Pat Bev...Yeah these guys are jerks, but you love them if they are on your team. Draymond Green being a bully has helped the Warriors win 4 NBA titles. Some of the other names I've listed were literally pioneers of the game in certain aspects. ALL of them played on winning, contending, championship level teams.


You and I are kindred spirits - I couldn't agree more. You left out Charles Oakley and Rick Mahorn, who as well as being a Bad Boy Piston (one of my favorite all-time groups) helped make up the Thump & Bump Sixers of the early '90's. I grew up with '70's and '80's basketball, and to me the game was never better.
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Post#194 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:01 am

Jailblazers7 wrote:My biggest issue with Draymond is that his behavior has gotten worse as his ability declines. He’s become a caricature of himself & his ego is now totally self-destructive. I always enjoyed the Warriors big 3 but now Dray (& Klay honestly) have become bitter sore losers who can’t accept their decline.


I agree on Green, but I definitely think Klay still has something to offer for anyone that wants to trade for him. He's still an elite shooter and just wrapped up a season where he put up damn near 22 a game after all he's been through. His decline is as steady as Hardens if you ask me. Both still very good players, very effective in terms of how they impact the game, but not what they once were. Still....Give me Klay Thompson on the Sixers....They can have Tobias.
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Post#195 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:08 am

The trend seems to be the home team winning heavily in these game 2's this year. Memphis is whooping LA right now without Morant. Too bad, the Lakers had a golden opportunity to get a hold of that series. I'm wondering if we see the same with between Milwaukee and Miami tonight?
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Post#196 » by Jailblazers7 » Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:13 am

Lakers are making their move in this game by playing to their size advantage. Without Adams & Clarke the Grizzlies are just too small for this matchup.
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Post#197 » by 76ciology » Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:42 am

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76ciology wrote:Been watching a lot of Celts clips. Celts vs Warriors finals. Celts vs Heat, Celts vs us this season and Celts vs Hawks.

Horford attempts the most 3s against us (7.7) and shoots at 43%. But despite all that he’s just averaging 10ppg on 9 shots.

The key to beat the Celts is for your big to sag into the paint to help protect the rim. The mistake with the Hawks is Capela is sticking too close to Al. So now, Celts does not only have a 5 out offense but they are also playing 4v3 with Trae being a liability on the floor.

Biid has challenged the most shots of Tatum and is limiting him to 34% shooting. But Tatum’s primary defenders are Melton, Tobi and Tucker, Tatum is shooting 50% on all 3.

Tobi and Harden defended Jaylen Brown the most and both guys are limiting Brown to 33% shooting.

Al Horford is bad in defending Embiid (64FG%) and Harden (67FG%). He’s the guy we need to target if they play 5 out. But Maxey can’t shake off DWhite and he’s just shooting 31% off him.


We are at our best defensively when Embiid can stay close to the paint. Horford and Griffin at the stretch 5 hitting wide open 3's contributed to two of the losses against them and I'm pretty sure that will be the celtics go to.
Maxey , McDaniels and Reed will be key against Celtics.

Maxey will have to step it up on both ends against the Celtics. Derrick White has been a problem and has outplayed Maxey in the regular season matchups and has played well lately in general. We are going to need Maxey to cancel out or equal Whites production.

McDaniel is a tall, long ,athletic defender. Hes lengthy but quick and will be able to switch and defend multiple players. He should be able to defend Tatum, Brown , White or Brogdon. He also offers a little more resistance around the rim than Tucker and Tobias when Embiid is pulled out of the paint.

Reed will have to continue his play for us and hold down the paint during the Embiidless mins. The Celtics are deeper and they have Robert Williams who is one of the best rim protectors coming off the bench. He is also a lob threat who I believe will complete more than the Nets have so far to Claxton who has struggled. Continued chemistry building with Harden will go a long way.


Agree with Maxey and Reed. He has to match White’s production or else the load falls to Harden, which is not that reliable of a scorer right now. Reed has to continue playing like this on both ends and match up with Rob Williams.

I like to believe McDaniels will play a big role and this nets series is for him to get his feet wet (he played down the stretch last game). Maybe play him more if Biid has to stick on Al if Al gets on fire? But I haven’t seen much from him to say so, I think he’s a limited offensive player while his defense is mostly aesthetics.

For now, its very likely that we’ll continue to have Biid not stick too much on Al. We just need to make better rotations (i.e switch when Al is popping on 2 man games) or guys closing out on Al if the ball is swung and forcing him to attack on close out.

Overall, defensively I think we’re OK. We have a very sound blueprint to beat them. But offensively, Biid has to drop 40-50pts against their single coverage defense if mostly Maxey and Harden with partially Tobias dont be at par on offense.
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Post#198 » by Jailblazers7 » Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:05 am

I think Niang is gonna have to be glued to the bench against Boston. We’ve gotta have defenders who can help & recover a lot of space against Boston. The subplots I’ll be looking for are 1) can Maxey hold up on defense? & 2) can we get good minutes out of McDaniels/House?
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Post#199 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:05 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:The trend seems to be the home team winning heavily in these game 2's this year. Memphis is whooping LA right now without Morant. Too bad, the Lakers had a golden opportunity to get a hold of that series. I'm wondering if we see the same with between Milwaukee and Miami tonight?


Unfortunately, your assessment held true here too :-?
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Post#200 » by 76ciology » Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:35 am



The reason why Trae settles for these jumpers is he is having problem finishing at the rim with the refs not giving him calls. Kind of like James in G1

He is struggling because his drives relies a lot from refs blowing their whistle, so now the defenders can slow him down from physicality which allows the defense to recover and challenge the shot. D-White length and athleticism also plays a big part.

The problem with Trae is he’s not that good of a shooter, if we’re being honest. And if he is, a guy he should watch is JJ Redick with the off ball movement, as a screener then popping and DHO, which would also take advantage of playing with Dejounte.

I also dont know how Trae will look with a big popping to the 3pt arc, the slight switch and with better spacing might allow him to be a better finisher. Another one is maybe as a screener for Dejounte where Dejounte can use his speed in attacking to the rim while the defender has to respect Trae from popping. Sixers use to do it for Ben where JJ would screen for Ben then popping for the 3pt arc while the defender switching allows Dejounte a slight advantage for the drive to the rim.



Here’s the thing, in the playoffs they allow physicality for defense. Why not use it to your advantage and take advantage of how the league allows more physical and more effective screens?
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