NBA PLAYOFFS: GAME 2: Los Angeles Clippers @ Phoenix Suns (LAC leads 1-0) | Tuesday | 7:00 PM

[lilfishi22]

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Funny BleacherReport on IG showed a video of KD yelling in Westbrook’s direction during the game with the caption “KD/Russ going at it!!!” and KD commented on it saying “I was yelling at DA, yall need to stop this there’s nothing there c’mon”. And it does make sense, Ayton is in the same camera angle too.

Funny how sports media works. Especially social media pages like BleacherReport which really have very little integrity.

It's just funny to me that there's a Suns player that's this active on responding to social media mentions of him lol it's what regular folks do

[lilfishi22]

I loved hearing Jeff Van Gundy blast Monty so many times yesterday. The funny thing is JVG almost always defends HCs on TV too because he’s a former HC himself.

But he had Monty on blast and deservedly so. He criticized Monty for it being playoffs and still not having a set rotation and playing random guys each game. He blasted Monty for the terrible drop coverage on screens against Kawhi which got wide open looks. Blasted Monty for Suns looking completely unprepared to start off the first qtr. Criticized him for not adjusting/countering and creating 3pt looks for Booker/KD which Lue is smartly taking away.

There was at least a few other things too. I hope Matt Ishbia dumbass gets a chance to listen to the broadcast sometime.

I'd go in to detail about bad of a take this is, how you're over interpreting what was said about monty on the broadcast, you're reaching, being hyperbolic, whatever, but you don't even have the right commentator so I guess it's clear you didn't watch too closely anyway.

It's a lose-lose situation for Monty. The only way he'd win is if we won the title and even then, someone is going to criticise his rotation in g3 of the semi-finals or something.

He deserved a ton of criticism for G1 but we got a solid win in G2. Not saying it was a perfect win but there's like no let down in the criticism at all. If I read the criticism, I'd assume we were the ones who lost by 14.

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I loved hearing Jeff Van Gundy blast Monty so many times yesterday. The funny thing is JVG almost always defends HCs on TV too because he’s a former HC himself.

But he had Monty on blast and deservedly so. He criticized Monty for it being playoffs and still not having a set rotation and playing random guys each game. He blasted Monty for the terrible drop coverage on screens against Kawhi which got wide open looks. Blasted Monty for Suns looking completely unprepared to start off the first qtr. Criticized him for not adjusting/countering and creating 3pt looks for Booker/KD which Lue is smartly taking away.

There was at least a few other things too. I hope Matt Ishbia dumbass gets a chance to listen to the broadcast sometime.

I'd go in to detail about bad of a take this is, how you're over interpreting what was said about monty on the broadcast, you're reaching, being hyperbolic, whatever, but you don't even have the right commentator so I guess it's clear you didn't watch too closely anyway.

It's a lose-lose situation for Monty. The only way he'd win is if we won the title and even then, someone is going to criticise his rotation in g3 of the semi-finals or something.

He deserved a ton of criticism for G1 but we got a solid win in G2. Not saying it was a perfect win but there's like no let down in the criticism at all. If I read the criticism, I'd assume we were the ones who lost by 14.

It’s not a lose-lose situation for Monty at all. Did you watch the game or simply see the score afterwards? His rotations are absolute crap, and yeah winning a game because Booker/KD played 43 mins each and had to be on fire isn’t gonna get Monty a trophy from anyone. Again, it’s hardly just fans here…national TV commentators, former NBA players, and NBA media guys that are looking at the analytics and numbers are bashing him 10x more than anyone here is.

Again, the whole BS is setting up for the excuse of when Booker or CP3 or KD get injured having to play so many mins, then there’s the excuse ready to go for how Suns only failed in the playoffs because of injury. Not the fact Monty has them all averaging well over 40+ mins per game and we’re barely 2 games into the playoffs. Like come on, don’t be so short sighted.

Also, winning a ring has NEVER absolved a HC from blame or even being fired. Rick Carslisle helped Mavs get their only ring in franchise history and their fans wanted him fired for about 2-3 years before he was actually fired. Doc Rivers was fired from Boston after having won them a title for the first time in like 20+ years. Frank Vogel was fired and the Lakers fans wanted his head on a spear the very next season after he helped them to a title. Nick Nurse looks like he will be fired after he helped bring the only title to Toronto. Hell if you go on the Spurstalk forum, most of their fans on there want Gregg Popovich to be fired! That’s right, Gregg Popovich, the superdaddy of all NBA HCs ever…they want him fired for like the last 2-3 years now. I’m pretty sure there’s bunch of other examples as well that’s not coming to mind right now.

I respect Monty for helping turning this franchise around from a laughing stock to a contender. I really do. But he has shortcomings and it’s definitely valid. It remains to be seen if he’s the “bridge” HC that gets a team from being crap to being a contender but can’t get them to actually go all the way because of all the shortcomings (like a Mark Jackson/Scott Brooks for example) or if he’s an actual championship HC. Right now he looks more like the Mark Jackson type bridge HC that can come in and help change the culture and all but isn’t tactful enough to make the right adjustments and decisions come playoff time.

[lilfishi22]

I'd go in to detail about bad of a take this is, how you're over interpreting what was said about monty on the broadcast, you're reaching, being hyperbolic, whatever, but you don't even have the right commentator so I guess it's clear you didn't watch too closely anyway.

It's a lose-lose situation for Monty. The only way he'd win is if we won the title and even then, someone is going to criticise his rotation in g3 of the semi-finals or something.

He deserved a ton of criticism for G1 but we got a solid win in G2. Not saying it was a perfect win but there's like no let down in the criticism at all. If I read the criticism, I'd assume we were the ones who lost by 14.

It’s not a lose-lose situation for Monty at all. Did you watch the game or simply see the score afterwards? His rotations are absolute crap, and yeah winning a game because Booker/KD played 43 mins each and had to be on fire isn’t gonna get Monty a trophy from anyone. Again, it’s hardly just fans here…national TV commentators, former NBA players, and NBA media guys that are looking at the analytics and numbers are bashing him 10x more than anyone here is.

Again, the whole BS is setting up for the excuse of when Booker or CP3 or KD get injured having to play so many mins, then there’s the excuse ready to go for how Suns only failed in the playoffs because of injury. Not the fact Monty has them all averaging well over 40+ mins per game and we’re barely 2 games into the playoffs. Like come on, don’t be so short sighted.

Also, winning a ring has NEVER absolved a HC from blame or even being fired. Rick Carslisle helped Mavs get their only ring in franchise history and their fans wanted him fired for about 2-3 years before he was actually fired. Doc Rivers was fired from Boston after having won them a title for the first time in like 20+ years. Frank Vogel was fired and the Lakers fans wanted his head on a spear the very next season after he helped them to a title. Nick Nurse looks like he will be fired after he helped bring the only title to Toronto. Hell if you go on the Spurstalk forum, most of their fans on there want Gregg Popovich to be fired! That’s right, Gregg Popovich, the superdaddy of all NBA HCs ever…they want him fired for like the last 2-3 years now. I’m pretty sure there’s bunch of other examples as well that’s not coming to mind right now.

I respect Monty for helping turning this franchise around from a laughing stock to a contender. I really do. But he has shortcomings and it’s definitely valid. It remains to be seen if he’s the “bridge” HC that gets a team from being crap to being a contender but can’t get them to actually go all the way because of all the shortcomings (like a Mark Jackson/Scott Brooks for example) or if he’s an actual championship HC. Right now he looks more like the Mark Jackson type bridge HC that can come in and help change the culture and all but isn’t tactful enough to make the right adjustments and decisions come playoff time.

I watched the whole game, so that's one dumb argument out the window.

It is lose-lose because unless he runs perfect rotations (who has perfect rotations every time?) or essentially coaches a game with zero mistakes, he's going to get fans jumping on him real quick as if he's the reason we lost a game in which we won. It's kind of like how DA overall had a good game but he was kinda meh for most of the night until the 4th quarter when he did everything we expect to see from him.

When it comes to the minutes played for the stars, it's high. Higher than I'm personally comfortable with. But do you see anyone else stepping up out there? Monty got absolutely smashed by fans (rightfully so) at the end of that 3rd quarter in G1 when he played Ish, Shamet, Book, Jock and I think Okogie or something and it was so bad we gave up a 7ish point advantage and he had to bring KD back in less than 2min. Nobody is showing they can stay on the floor.

What do you do? Play KD/Book 36min and lose and then....criticise him for not playing them more? Whether we win or we lose, there is no let down in criticism.

I'm not his biggest fan but I'm fine to give him a pass when he's coached the team to a win.

[Jdiddy701]

Pretty dumb how people on this board that have no idea what’s going on within the team are talking about rotations. A reminder that when a team loses, rotations are always questioned, doesn’t matter how great the coach is. It’s so dumb and I’m tired of it. Makes this board difficult to read.

None of us are NBA coaches. None of us have any idea how difficult it is.

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[MrMiyagi]

Pretty dumb how people on this board that have no idea what’s going on within the team are talking about rotations. A reminder that when a team loses, rotations are always questioned, doesn’t matter how great the coach is. It’s so dumb and I’m tired of it. Makes this board difficult to read.

None of us are NBA coaches. None of us have any idea how difficult it is.

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Landry Shamet receiving minutes is indefensible, though.

[lilfishi22]

Pretty dumb how people on this board that have no idea what’s going on within the team are talking about rotations. A reminder that when a team loses, rotations are always questioned, doesn’t matter how great the coach is. It’s so dumb and I’m tired of it. Makes this board difficult to read.

None of us are NBA coaches. None of us have any idea how difficult it is.

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Landry Shamet receiving minutes is indefensible, though.

[Jdiddy701]

Pretty dumb how people on this board that have no idea what’s going on within the team are talking about rotations. A reminder that when a team loses, rotations are always questioned, doesn’t matter how great the coach is. It’s so dumb and I’m tired of it. Makes this board difficult to read.

None of us are NBA coaches. None of us have any idea how difficult it is.

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Landry Shamet receiving minutes is indefensible, though.

This is true but the Suns don’t have another guard to control the ball with Payne out. It makes sense that he’s having to play. Shamet hasn’t provided much for us but he’s also not making a ton of mistakes. It does frustrate the crap outta of me that he bricks everything, but plays solid D and can control the ball, if needed.


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[lilfishi22]

Pretty dumb how people on this board that have no idea what’s going on within the team are talking about rotations. A reminder that when a team loses, rotations are always questioned, doesn’t matter how great the coach is. It’s so dumb and I’m tired of it. Makes this board difficult to read.

None of us are NBA coaches. None of us have any idea how difficult it is.

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Landry Shamet receiving minutes is indefensible, though.

This is true but the Suns don’t have another guard to control the ball with Payne out. It makes sense that he’s having to play. Shamet hasn’t provided much for us but he’s also not making a ton of mistakes. It does frustrate the crap outta of me that he bricks everything, but plays solid D and can control the ball, if needed.


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Honestly, I'd rather someone like Okogie out there making a couple more mistakes than Shamet but having higher upside and creating opportunities. The guy just does so much out there, it's worth the gamble

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It's a lose-lose situation for Monty. The only way he'd win is if we won the title and even then, someone is going to criticise his rotation in g3 of the semi-finals or something.

He deserved a ton of criticism for G1 but we got a solid win in G2. Not saying it was a perfect win but there's like no let down in the criticism at all. If I read the criticism, I'd assume we were the ones who lost by 14.

It’s not a lose-lose situation for Monty at all. Did you watch the game or simply see the score afterwards? His rotations are absolute crap, and yeah winning a game because Booker/KD played 43 mins each and had to be on fire isn’t gonna get Monty a trophy from anyone. Again, it’s hardly just fans here…national TV commentators, former NBA players, and NBA media guys that are looking at the analytics and numbers are bashing him 10x more than anyone here is.

Again, the whole BS is setting up for the excuse of when Booker or CP3 or KD get injured having to play so many mins, then there’s the excuse ready to go for how Suns only failed in the playoffs because of injury. Not the fact Monty has them all averaging well over 40+ mins per game and we’re barely 2 games into the playoffs. Like come on, don’t be so short sighted.

Also, winning a ring has NEVER absolved a HC from blame or even being fired. Rick Carslisle helped Mavs get their only ring in franchise history and their fans wanted him fired for about 2-3 years before he was actually fired. Doc Rivers was fired from Boston after having won them a title for the first time in like 20+ years. Frank Vogel was fired and the Lakers fans wanted his head on a spear the very next season after he helped them to a title. Nick Nurse looks like he will be fired after he helped bring the only title to Toronto. Hell if you go on the Spurstalk forum, most of their fans on there want Gregg Popovich to be fired! That’s right, Gregg Popovich, the superdaddy of all NBA HCs ever…they want him fired for like the last 2-3 years now. I’m pretty sure there’s bunch of other examples as well that’s not coming to mind right now.

I respect Monty for helping turning this franchise around from a laughing stock to a contender. I really do. But he has shortcomings and it’s definitely valid. It remains to be seen if he’s the “bridge” HC that gets a team from being crap to being a contender but can’t get them to actually go all the way because of all the shortcomings (like a Mark Jackson/Scott Brooks for example) or if he’s an actual championship HC. Right now he looks more like the Mark Jackson type bridge HC that can come in and help change the culture and all but isn’t tactful enough to make the right adjustments and decisions come playoff time.

I watched the whole game, so that's one dumb argument out the window.

It is lose-lose because unless he runs perfect rotations (who has perfect rotations every time?) or essentially coaches a game with zero mistakes, he's going to get fans jumping on him real quick as if he's the reason we lost a game in which we won. It's kind of like how DA overall had a good game but he was kinda meh for most of the night until the 4th quarter when he did everything we expect to see from him.

When it comes to the minutes played for the stars, it's high. Higher than I'm personally comfortable with. But do you see anyone else stepping up out there? Monty got absolutely smashed by fans (rightfully so) at the end of that 3rd quarter in G1 when he played Ish, Shamet, Book, Jock and I think Okogie or something and it was so bad we gave up a 7ish point advantage and he had to bring KD back in less than 2min. Nobody is showing they can stay on the floor.

What do you do? Play KD/Book 36min and lose and then....criticise him for not playing them more? Whether we win or we lose, there is no let down in criticism.

I'm not his biggest fan but I'm fine to give him a pass when he's coached the team to a win.

The fact that you think the only options are m to either play Shamet and Wainwright a bunch of minutes or play KD/Booker for 43 mins kills your argument entirely.

It’s already been said at least a half a dozen times on in this thread itself that guys like Warren/Ross/Lee should all be playing off the bench ahead of Shamet and Wainwright. You’re choosing to ignore and sticking with this notion that Shamet/Wainwright (both trash ass players that wouldn’t even start on some G league teams probably) are the only options. And Warren/Ross/Lee are guys that SHOWED in the regular season that they put together a decent 2nd unit. Having Payne out sucks, but replace that with Booker or CP3 running point in spurts instead.

Again even SVG said it yesterday, Damion Lee is the Suns 2nd or 3rd best 3pt shooter. Considering the lack of bench production for the suns, he should be playing.

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Pretty dumb how people on this board that have no idea what’s going on within the team are talking about rotations. A reminder that when a team loses, rotations are always questioned, doesn’t matter how great the coach is. It’s so dumb and I’m tired of it. Makes this board difficult to read.

None of us are NBA coaches. None of us have any idea how difficult it is.

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None of us are NBA coaches but when NBA coaches like Stan Van Grundy who took a team to the Finals against a super stacked Lakers team talks, we should listen and realize that there is probably logic in his words. Oh and also the other former NBA players and the NBA media guys that actually use and show the stats to make their points. Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t right?

Also, just because someone is an NBA coach doesn’t mean they’re suddenly smarter than everyone else. I’d trust both you and lilfishi to be better HCs for the Suns than Lindsay Hunter for example. I’d trust you both to be better GMs than Lance Blanks as well. And I’m sure both you have zero experience in basketball coaching or being in any tiny role in basketball front offices.

[Revived]

Pretty dumb how people on this board that have no idea what’s going on within the team are talking about rotations. A reminder that when a team loses, rotations are always questioned, doesn’t matter how great the coach is. It’s so dumb and I’m tired of it. Makes this board difficult to read.

None of us are NBA coaches. None of us have any idea how difficult it is.

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Landry Shamet receiving minutes is indefensible, though.

This is true but the Suns don’t have another guard to control the ball with Payne out. It makes sense that he’s having to play.

Damion Lee exists….the guy that was balling out early part of the season and went to the doghouse for no reason. He has the 3rd best 3pt shooting % on the team. He won’t be bricking those wide open looks Shamet does.

[Frank Lee]

We’ve lacked ball handlers all year. More flack should fall on Jones than Monty. Both have their faults, but Jones did little to nothing midseason once again. Heck, the one move we made was an override by the owner.

[lilfishi22]

It’s not a lose-lose situation for Monty at all. Did you watch the game or simply see the score afterwards? His rotations are absolute crap, and yeah winning a game because Booker/KD played 43 mins each and had to be on fire isn’t gonna get Monty a trophy from anyone. Again, it’s hardly just fans here…national TV commentators, former NBA players, and NBA media guys that are looking at the analytics and numbers are bashing him 10x more than anyone here is.

Again, the whole BS is setting up for the excuse of when Booker or CP3 or KD get injured having to play so many mins, then there’s the excuse ready to go for how Suns only failed in the playoffs because of injury. Not the fact Monty has them all averaging well over 40+ mins per game and we’re barely 2 games into the playoffs. Like come on, don’t be so short sighted.

Also, winning a ring has NEVER absolved a HC from blame or even being fired. Rick Carslisle helped Mavs get their only ring in franchise history and their fans wanted him fired for about 2-3 years before he was actually fired. Doc Rivers was fired from Boston after having won them a title for the first time in like 20+ years. Frank Vogel was fired and the Lakers fans wanted his head on a spear the very next season after he helped them to a title. Nick Nurse looks like he will be fired after he helped bring the only title to Toronto. Hell if you go on the Spurstalk forum, most of their fans on there want Gregg Popovich to be fired! That’s right, Gregg Popovich, the superdaddy of all NBA HCs ever…they want him fired for like the last 2-3 years now. I’m pretty sure there’s bunch of other examples as well that’s not coming to mind right now.

I respect Monty for helping turning this franchise around from a laughing stock to a contender. I really do. But he has shortcomings and it’s definitely valid. It remains to be seen if he’s the “bridge” HC that gets a team from being crap to being a contender but can’t get them to actually go all the way because of all the shortcomings (like a Mark Jackson/Scott Brooks for example) or if he’s an actual championship HC. Right now he looks more like the Mark Jackson type bridge HC that can come in and help change the culture and all but isn’t tactful enough to make the right adjustments and decisions come playoff time.

I watched the whole game, so that's one dumb argument out the window.

It is lose-lose because unless he runs perfect rotations (who has perfect rotations every time?) or essentially coaches a game with zero mistakes, he's going to get fans jumping on him real quick as if he's the reason we lost a game in which we won. It's kind of like how DA overall had a good game but he was kinda meh for most of the night until the 4th quarter when he did everything we expect to see from him.

When it comes to the minutes played for the stars, it's high. Higher than I'm personally comfortable with. But do you see anyone else stepping up out there? Monty got absolutely smashed by fans (rightfully so) at the end of that 3rd quarter in G1 when he played Ish, Shamet, Book, Jock and I think Okogie or something and it was so bad we gave up a 7ish point advantage and he had to bring KD back in less than 2min. Nobody is showing they can stay on the floor.

What do you do? Play KD/Book 36min and lose and then....criticise him for not playing them more? Whether we win or we lose, there is no let down in criticism.

I'm not his biggest fan but I'm fine to give him a pass when he's coached the team to a win.

The fact that you think the only options are m to either play Shamet and Wainwright a bunch of minutes or play KD/Booker for 43 mins kills your argument entirely.

It’s already been said at least a half a dozen times on in this thread itself that guys like Warren/Ross/Lee should all be playing off the bench ahead of Shamet and Wainwright. You’re choosing to ignore and sticking with this notion that Shamet/Wainwright (both trash ass players that wouldn’t even start on some G league teams probably) are the only options. And Warren/Ross/Lee are guys that SHOWED in the regular season that they put together a decent 2nd unit. Having Payne out sucks, but replace that with Booker or CP3 running point in spurts instead.

Again even SVG said it yesterday, Damion Lee is the Suns 2nd or 3rd best 3pt shooter. Considering the lack of bench production for the suns, he should be playing.

Well that's not my argument at all lol. I've said since G1 that we should be playing TJ/Ross/Okogie more. I'm certainly not arguing for Shamet/Wainwright minutes so I don't know why you think I want to see that.

But what is clear to me is that in these past two games, KD and Booker NEEDED to play those minutes just to stay within striking distance or the win, regardless of who else was playing. Sure you could've given those Shamet minutes to Ross and TJ and I would've liked to see that but there was no point in either games where we could comfortably sit Book/KD. It's clear as day those two played extended minutes because there was no one else who could run anything. Ross isn't going to do that, TJ definitely isn't running shh and while I love everything JO gives us, you still need a guy like Book/KD/CP3 to get our offense running. Not having Payne run that second unit is why we had to play KD/Book so many minutes. If he was playing, we'd have more optionality in that second unit, certainly wouldn't play Shamet nearly as many minutes as he'd had and TJ/Ross would make more sense.

You talk about watching box scores and then bring up Lee's 3P% which was essentially carried by his early season shooting. The guy was a few % points above league average since the start of the new year and he does nothing but shoot out there. He can't handle the ball and his defense is sub par. We need guys with more versatility.

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You talk about watching box scores and then bring up Lee's 3P% which was essentially carried by his early season shooting. The guy was a few % points above league average since the start of the new year and he does nothing but shoot out there. He can't handle the ball and his defense is sub par. We need guys with more versatility.

My argument is that Shamet is just as bad at both of those things as Lee is. Except 3pt shooting wise, even at the lower % since the beginning of the new year he’s still much better than Shamet. Maybe defensively he’s slightly better than Lee but that’s it. And even then it’s not a big difference because yesterday every single minute that Shamet was on the court, Clippers were trying to have his guy set a screen for Kawhi or Westbrook to get Shamet guarding one of them because he’s the worst defender on the court. And I wasn’t accusing you of only boxscore watching btw, I was simply asking…I don’t watch every single game and sometimes just go by the box score myself. Not an insult.

[Revived]

Pretty dumb how people on this board that have no idea what’s going on within the team are talking about rotations. A reminder that when a team loses, rotations are always questioned, doesn’t matter how great the coach is. It’s so dumb and I’m tired of it. Makes this board difficult to read.

None of us are NBA coaches. None of us have any idea how difficult it is.

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Landry Shamet receiving minutes is indefensible, though.

I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that playing Shamet is like 70% of my issue with Monty. He’s probably my least favorite Suns player of the last 3 years and hate how much he’s benefited from nepotism on that contract and playing time.

[lilfishi22]

You talk about watching box scores and then bring up Lee's 3P% which was essentially carried by his early season shooting. The guy was a few % points above league average since the start of the new year and he does nothing but shoot out there. He can't handle the ball and his defense is sub par. We need guys with more versatility.

My argument is that Shamet is just as bad at both of those things as Lee is. Except 3pt shooting wise, even at the lower % since the beginning of the new year he’s still much better than Shamet. Maybe defensively he’s slightly better than Lee but that’s it. And even then it’s not a big difference because yesterday every single minute that Shamet was on the court, Clippers were trying to have his guy set a screen for Kawhi or Westbrook to get Shamet guarding one of them because he’s the worst defender on the court. And I wasn’t accusing you of only boxscore watching btw, I was simply asking…I don’t watch every single game and sometimes just go by the box score myself. Not an insult.

I think we both agree Shamet minutes should be greatly reduced, preferably to low single digits if at all. What I've been saying is that Okogie does everything Shamet does currently so it doesn't make sense to have Shamet in there at all if he's not even shooting the ball much or at a high clip. I just don't think Lee should get minutes because he just doesn't do enough outside of shoot.

[thamadkant]

This Suns system is basically part Nets and part CP3 system... isolation for Booker and KD, everyone watches... then CP3 with his half court dissecting of the defense until he gets a switch or he finds Ayton deep down or open at the key.

Every other role players have to be spotting up at the corners. The assists is high because the defenses collapse into Booker, KD and CP3... but absolutely predictable ball movement and the big 4 has to be hitting elite percentages from their mid range to have the Suns up or within a competitive game.

A cold game from 2 of the 4 without the bench stepping up means Suns would be struggling.

So many unplayable bench players with this Suns system because there are no clever setups or smart ball movement.

To illustrate what I'm complaining about, just compare this current suns to the Warriors, Kings, Bucks, Celtics ball movement with their role players.

I don't think 72% from the midfield is sustainable and that's what got the Suns the win in Game 2. Need more bench involvement.

[thamadkant]

This Suns system is basically part Nets and part CP3 system... isolation for Booker and KD, everyone watches... then CP3 with his half court dissecting of the defense until he gets a switch or he finds Ayton deep down or open at the key.

Every other role players have to be spotting up at the corners. The assists is high because the defenses collapse into Booker, KD and CP3... but absolutely predictable ball movement and the big 4 has to be hitting elite percentages from their mid range to have the Suns up or within a competitive game.

A cold game from 2 of the 4 without the bench stepping up means Suns would be struggling.

So many unplayable bench players with this Suns system because there are no clever setups or smart ball movement.

To illustrate what I'm complaining about, just compare this current suns to the Warriors, Kings, Bucks, Celtics ball movement with their role players.

I don't think 72% from the midfield is sustainable and that's what got the Suns the win in Game 2. Need more bench involvement.

[POLI]

It was a must-win game, so conclusions are hard to get.
But I do not like nor the way we play neither the way Monty gives minutes.
One of the important things for a coach is to find a system in which players rest, combine their abilities on the court and the group offers its maximum.
Playing the starters 44 minutes is not a system that will take us far.

On the other hand, the way we play on the court is catastrophic, even in a win. I understand that we did not have the time to implement a good system that combines everybody's abilities. But playing 5 players that carry out isolation performances 9 out of 10 times is not a system, but a pick up game of the streets.