2023 Draft Discussion Part III

[Rapsfan07]

Taylor Hendricks is going a few spots after Brandon Miller is selected I'm confident about that.

I could see him going as high as 5 or 6.

Wemby
Scoot
Miller
Amen
Hendricks/Ausar
Ausur/Hendricks
Black/Walker
Walker/Black
Whitmore
Wallace/Dick
Dick/Wallace

After this, it's a total crapshoot.

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I see Bilal and Rupert were also on the team with Cissoko.

To me, that looks like Sidy was the best current prospect, but Bilal is right there in less minutes. The one thing that stands out is Sidy’s assist numbers. Bilal is superior to Rupert and it’s pretty clear to see in my opinion.

This is also how I see things. I guess pre-season Rupert was in between them as he was able to secure a contract in the NBL while Sidy was the first international player to play with the Ignite. Sidy could've played it safe but it seems like he wanted to play against men that are close to getting to or on the way out of the NBA. Seems like Bilal stayed with the 2nd French league team and played well enough to move up to the 1st league team with Wemby.

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[DemHeavyHands]

Off-season plan:

Draft Gradey Dick
Sign Rudy Gay
Sign Kevin Love

Boom, there’s our bench. Guys would be scared to play that bench mob

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Cam Whitmore's still riding his stock from pre-season.
Whitehead looks good, likely as good as AJ Griffin with more passing.
Keyonte George is flashy but numbers verified by freshman campaign.

Looking at the World Team, where is Jean Montero?!?!?!

OMG, he played for OTE. He played this season in the ACB. Ah only shot the Euro 3 at 25%. I guess he was just on fire at the Nike Hoops Summit.

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Jean-Montero/Summary/119544

[ATLTimekeeper]

https://www.eurobasket.com/France/basketball-National-Team.aspx?Age=18

I see Bilal and Rupert were also on the team with Cissoko.

To me, that looks like Sidy was the best current prospect, but Bilal is right there in less minutes. The one thing that stands out is Sidy’s assist numbers. Bilal is superior to Rupert and it’s pretty clear to see in my opinion.

This is also how I see things. I guess pre-season Rupert was in between them as he was able to secure a contract in the NBL while Sidy was the first international player to play with the Ignite. Sidy could've played it safe but it seems like he wanted to play against men that are close to getting to or on the way out of the NBA. Seems like Bilal stayed with the 2nd French league team and played well enough to move up to the 1st league team with Wemby.

It's 7 games in a tournament a year ago. That would be like pointing to a March Madness run a year ago. Sample size disaster.

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The raptors have a chance to add guard depth via UD free agents. Pickett would be a nice addition.

[niQ]

https://www.usab.com/history/nike-hoop-summit/xxiii-annual-nike-hoop-summit-2022.aspx

Cam Whitmore's still riding his stock from pre-season.
Whitehead looks good, likely as good as AJ Griffin with more passing.
Keyonte George is flashy but numbers verified by freshman campaign.

Looking at the World Team, where is Jean Montero?!?!?!

OMG, he played for OTE. He played this season in the ACB. Ah only shot the Euro 3 at 25%. I guess he was just on fire at the Nike Hoops Summit.

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Jean-Montero/Summary/119544

Apparently Real Betis of the Liga ACB

[Yallbecrazy]

Franz is an outlier. The inconsistency in this thread is astounding. People will talk about one guy with rose coloured glasses on and bash another for the same reasons they love someone else.

There were a number of guys who had Franz in the top 6 in a stacked at the top draft.

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The raptors have a chance to add guard depth via UD free agents. Pickett would be a nice addition.

He should be drafted mid to late 2nd but with the 2 forfeited picks, maybe. Wong and Miller or Miami might go undrafted. Souley Boum will likely not be drafted. Those are 3 players that I thought would be good candidates for 2-way contracts.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I still think Maxwell Lewis is the single best year 1 G-league candidate for any team to draft and develop. This kid shows incredible flashes of 3 level scoring and is a late bloomer. Would have loved to have seen him transfer schools and play out his junior year.

He is slow to process things still but if he ever becomes a guy who processes the action faster and things start clicking in terms of reads and decisiveness he has the underlying ability to be an all-star in the NBA. There no is way in which this guy cannot score you watch him and he will score from every spot on the floor in every way imaginable it's incredible. His handle can get sloppy at times and that really bothers me though.

If I have a pick to use as a luxury I'm taking him and trying to develop him for 2-3 years. It's hard to get a read on his trajectory but out of all the north american project picks to take a risk on later in the draft I would take it on him. He needs an organization that will bring him along slowly and push him to get better on the defensive side of the ball.

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https://www.usab.com/history/nike-hoop-summit/xxiii-annual-nike-hoop-summit-2022.aspx

Cam Whitmore's still riding his stock from pre-season.
Whitehead looks good, likely as good as AJ Griffin with more passing.
Keyonte George is flashy but numbers verified by freshman campaign.

Looking at the World Team, where is Jean Montero?!?!?!

OMG, he played for OTE. He played this season in the ACB. Ah only shot the Euro 3 at 25%. I guess he was just on fire at the Nike Hoops Summit.

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Jean-Montero/Summary/119544

Apparently Real Betis of the Liga ACB

Makes sense for him to play there as he speaks Spanish coming from DR.

[Yallbecrazy]

https://www.usab.com/history/nike-hoop-summit/xxiii-annual-nike-hoop-summit-2022.aspx

Cam Whitmore's still riding his stock from pre-season.
Whitehead looks good, likely as good as AJ Griffin with more passing.
Keyonte George is flashy but numbers verified by freshman campaign.

Looking at the World Team, where is Jean Montero?!?!?!

OMG, he played for OTE. He played this season in the ACB. Ah only shot the Euro 3 at 25%. I guess he was just on fire at the Nike Hoops Summit.

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Jean-Montero/Summary/119544

Apparently Real Betis of the Liga ACB

Makes sense for him to play there as he speaks Spanish coming from DR.

His stats aren't terrible in that league at 19, definitely would look at him in the late 1st/ early 2nd.

ACB is the 2nd best domestic league in the world next to the NBA.

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[BoyzNTheHood]

Franz is an outlier. The inconsistency in this thread is astounding. People will talk about one guy with rose coloured glasses on and bash another for the same reasons they love someone else.

There were a number of guys who had Franz in the top 6 in a stacked at the top draft.

The point remains, he’s an outlier. People though he would be a solid NBA starter in a Swiss Army knife type role. No one pegged him as a scorer in the NBA.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I think someone compared Coulibaly to TMac, and while that would be an exciting outcome I don’t see it. One thing I will say is, he seems as though there is an untapped god tier with him just like Giannis. I know that’s a huge claim to make, but it just seems like he can have a massive breakout if the stars align.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Franz is an outlier. The inconsistency in this thread is astounding. People will talk about one guy with rose coloured glasses on and bash another for the same reasons they love someone else.

There were a number of guys who had Franz in the top 6 in a stacked at the top draft.

The point remains, he’s an outlier. People though he would be a solid NBA starter in a Swiss Army knife type role. No one pegged him as a scorer in the NBA.

He's an outlier as a scorer. Not sure what that has to do with Cissoko, though. If Cissoko is just a Swiss Army knife he could be worth it, as long as he's more Scottie than Bembry. Shane Battier was a better pick than Rudy Gay.

[PhilBlackson]

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This is big news. Leaving the draft with a guard and him would be massive for the future of this team.

Whoa, if he grew to 6'8 that's huge as he'd be like a skinny Kuminga type prospect. I guess Bilal's shooting might be a little better than Kuminga.

Yeah that could be a game changer for what level of prospect he may be for me...

I thought he was a super tempting prospect just because his frame is crazy & athleticism jumps out to you but what worried me is for a GUARD which at 6'6 I thought he'd kinda have to be one that the skills were too far off for a guard. It would still be as a forward but as a forward that's more forgiving and if he's 6'8 now (forget that may also mean he's STILL growing, especially when you see a frame to me that's damn near Scottie like but more explosive leaper)....if you can get kid with that kind of size & athleticism, this might actually put Bilal to the front of the line for me because I've been saying this team CAN'T play safe if they really wanna go to the next level.

It's a homerun swing but if you connect...it can really alter the trajectory of your franchise and even you miss, people will clearly give the franchise at least a couple of years to see how he develops and while they may not be happy it didn't pan out. They also can't kill for missing on the 13th pick because while steals happen when most times they don't. So if this is true, I say roll the dice!

[ArthurVandelay]

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Prepare for liftoff. His stock is going to rise between now and draft. Been saying for weeks he will go lottery. I stand by that.

[Dalek]

I still think Maxwell Lewis is the single best year 1 G-league candidate for any team to draft and develop. This kid shows incredible flashes of 3 level scoring and is a late bloomer. Would have loved to have seen him transfer schools and play out his junior year.

He is slow to process things still but if he ever becomes a guy who processes the action faster and things start clicking in terms of reads and decisiveness he has the underlying ability to be an all-star in the NBA. There no is way in which this guy cannot score you watch him and he will score from every spot on the floor in every way imaginable it's incredible. His handle can get sloppy at times and that really bothers me though.

If I have a pick to use as a luxury I'm taking him and trying to develop him for 2-3 years. It's hard to get a read on his trajectory but out of all the north american project picks to take a risk on later in the draft I would take it on him. He needs an organization that will bring him along slowly and push him to get better on the defensive side of the ball.

I think he ends up in the second round because the defensive showing was pretty poor (-0.3 DBPM) and his game on offense needs a lot of work despite those flashes that show some advanced shot creation. Consider that he will be 21 at the start of the next NBA season and a guy like Brandon Boston is 21 and has two years of playing under his belt with the Clips and he barely gets to play despite all of that talent.

[PhilBlackson]

You know what sucks even more?!

That trading for Poeltl may cost us a chance at drafting Bilal (if ofc he panned out)....*ahem* Presti is drafting just BEFORE us lol smfh

What a fitting end that would be, to show just how dumb & unnecessary of a move that was.