Lillard: I don't want to be a part of a rebuild.

[DusterBuster]

It would be interesting if Miami offered up Bam in the trade for Dame. Whether Dame wants to go to
Miami or whether he perceived the Heat to be contender is another matter.

Bam would be a really good fit if Portland built around Sharpe/Simons and whoever they pick at 5

Imagine Bam, Grant and whoever they pick at 5 on a team with Simons and Sharpe.

National media has listed the Heat as a potential landing spot for him.

Bam, Lowry and 2 first rounders for Dame and Nurkic is a solid deal for both sides imo.

For those who are aggressively anti-Simons at PG, the Blazers could pick a PG in the draft, maybe Scoot if he falls or if the Blazers move up but don't get #1, then look to move Simons in a secondary trade for a SF. Then you have Lowry to mentor a rookie PG. Bam replaces Nurkic, a couple of 1sts... that's a quick reboot into a new era with a lot of potential.

For the rest of us who think Simons works fine at PG, the Blazers pick a SF/PF at 5 and resign/overpay Grant (overpay is only way he probably stays after a Dame trade). Depending where they pick, they can get one of Miller, Hendricks, Walker to play SF/PF with Grant.

Regardless which way you cut it, that new team would be pretty exciting.

[Village Idiot]

It would be interesting if Miami offered up Bam in the trade for Dame. Whether Dame wants to go to
Miami or whether he perceived the Heat to be contender is another matter.

Bam would be a really good fit if Portland built around Sharpe/Simons and whoever they pick at 5

Imagine Bam, Grant and whoever they pick at 5 on a team with Simons and Sharpe.

National media has listed the Heat as a potential landing spot for him.

Bam, Lowry and 2 first rounders for Dame and Nurkic is a solid deal for both sides imo.

For those who are aggressively anti-Simons at PG, the Blazers could pick a PG in the draft, maybe Scoot if he falls or if the Blazers move up but don't get #1, then look to move Simons in a secondary trade for a SF. Then you have Lowry to mentor a rookie PG. Bam replaces Nurkic, a couple of 1sts... that's a quick reboot into a new era with a lot of potential.

For the rest of us who think Simons works fine at PG, the Blazers pick a SF/PF at 5 and resign/overpay Grant (overpay is only way he probably stays after a Dame trade). Depending where they pick, they can get one of Miller, Hendricks, Walker to play SF/PF with Grant.

Regardless which way you cut it, that new team would be pretty exciting.

This is 100% where I am at. While I don't view Simons as a true PG I honestly don't think you need one in the modern NBA. Simons can create and he can shoot. If you have connectors with outstanding defense in Bam and Jarace Walker and a really good two way guy in Jerami Grant and then Sharpe and Thybulle as they other core pieces you have the makings a really fun team where selfless basketball is the key.

[DusterBuster]

It would be interesting if Miami offered up Bam in the trade for Dame. Whether Dame wants to go to
Miami or whether he perceived the Heat to be contender is another matter.

Bam would be a really good fit if Portland built around Sharpe/Simons and whoever they pick at 5

Imagine Bam, Grant and whoever they pick at 5 on a team with Simons and Sharpe.

National media has listed the Heat as a potential landing spot for him.

Bam, Lowry and 2 first rounders for Dame and Nurkic is a solid deal for both sides imo.

For those who are aggressively anti-Simons at PG, the Blazers could pick a PG in the draft, maybe Scoot if he falls or if the Blazers move up but don't get #1, then look to move Simons in a secondary trade for a SF. Then you have Lowry to mentor a rookie PG. Bam replaces Nurkic, a couple of 1sts... that's a quick reboot into a new era with a lot of potential.

For the rest of us who think Simons works fine at PG, the Blazers pick a SF/PF at 5 and resign/overpay Grant (overpay is only way he probably stays after a Dame trade). Depending where they pick, they can get one of Miller, Hendricks, Walker to play SF/PF with Grant.

Regardless which way you cut it, that new team would be pretty exciting.

This is 100% where I am at. While I don't view Simons as a true PG I honestly don't think you need one in the modern NBA. Simons can create and he can shoot. If you have connectors with outstanding defense in Bam and Jarace Walker and a really good two way guy in Jerami Grant and then Sharpe and Thybulle as they other core pieces you have the makings a really fun team where selfless basketball is the key.

For the Heat too, it makes a lot of sense to get them back into the Top 4 of the East almost immediately with a core of Lillard, Herro, Butler and Nurkic. They could probably even get Draymond Green to sign there for the mid-level I would bet, which ends them with a starting 5 of:

Lillard
Herro
Butler
Green
Nurkic

That's a strong roster for the eastern conference if they stay healthy. Depth would be a problem initially, but I'm sure FA's would flock there to help lol.

[Norm2953]

I don't know if Miami would offer up Bam, Lowry and 2 FRP for Dame and Nurk but it could be a'solid
trade for Portland with Lowry an expiring contract.

Bam, Sharpe, Simons as their core would not necessarily lock Portland into picking a PF at 5.

[GEE]

FOOD FOR THOUGHT... Remember just a few weeks ago when we mysteriously just ran out of healthy PGs, and the fix for Chauncey was to start Sharpe at PG. This was created IMO, to turn up the pressure on the kid, throw him into the deep end, and just see what happens if he's given the task. Remember how that resulted?

POINT BEING... Sharpe has handles too, and we're also likely to have them somewhat (maybe alot) at the PF position in Winslow(if healthy), Watford(definitely) and Simmons when Dame gets traded (kidding... sorta).

AND THIS: Anyone wanting to trade our barely legal drinking age, potential 50/40/90, Slam Dunk Champ that was just this year mentioned with Dame and Grant as All-Star candidates - is off their freakin' rocker. Dame can stay or go (His choice), but I'd guess there's about a 1% chance Simons or Sharpe get traded. Not Happening.

[BlazersBroncos]

Simons and Sharpe shouldnt be in the same sentence when talking 'untradeable'.

Its not hard to find players with Simons archetype. Poole, Herro and I would argue Clarkson are all basically the same player as Simons.

Sharpe is the guy that is unique and has talents and measurables that are hard to find.

[DaVoiceMaster]

FOOD FOR THOUGHT... Remember just a few weeks ago when we mysteriously just ran out of healthy PGs, and the fix for Chauncey was to start Sharpe at PG. This was created IMO, to turn up the pressure on the kid, throw him into the deep end, and just see what happens if he's given the task. Remember how that resulted?

POINT BEING... Sharpe has handles too, and we're also likely to have them somewhat (maybe alot) at the PF position in Winslow(if healthy), Watford(definitely) and Simmons when Dame gets traded (kidding... sorta).

AND THIS: Anyone wanting to trade our barely legal drinking age, potential 50/40/90, Slam Dunk Champ that was just this year mentioned with Dame and Grant as All-Star candidates - is off their freakin' rocker. Dame can stay or go (His choice), but I'd guess there's about a 1% chance Simons or Sharpe get traded. Not Happening.

I have no idea what you are talking about. The only people mentioning Simon's and Grant as ALL stars was the Blazers own announcers. No one else thought they would be All Stars.

[Sinobas]

That’s fair, happy to admit I got manipulated by the out of context clip.

Like mono said, we probably just need to wait for Dame to straight out say he wants to be traded. He’s not the quiet type. If that how he feels, he would outright say it.

I still have to wonder though about this summer. That just has to be so demoralizing to have a MVP season and have a roster struggling to crack 35 wins.

Demoralizing yes surprising no. Grant is not an impact player at least not the way we are playing him, he can't rebound and is a black hole as a number 2 or 3 option (he should mostly be catch and shoot imo), Simons doesn't fit well next to Dame and Sharpe looks like a better back court partner, Nurk looks to have regressed on average, our back court continues to be one of the biggest defensive liabilities in human history , and on top of all of that we have zero bench.

I think Grant would be a very good SF. The team is just too small and him at PF doesn't help at all.

[monopoman]

I will say if the Sixers lose Harden, I could see Embiid force his way out of Philly. We could easily be in play for that type of trade, I am not sure we would have the best offer but our offer would easily be competitive in that.

[DusterBuster]

I will say if the Sixers lose Harden, I could see Embiid force his way out of Philly. We could easily be in play for that type of trade, I am not sure we would have the best offer but our offer would easily be competitive in that.

If that’s the case, once again, the lottery is going to be critical. Blazers offer gets infinitely better if they move up. If they move down, the only hope would be Embiid demanding to goto Portland… then hoping Morey doesn’t go hard-ball on Embiid like he did with Simmons and tell Embiid to shove it with his trade demand.

[monopoman]

I will say if the Sixers lose Harden, I could see Embiid force his way out of Philly. We could easily be in play for that type of trade, I am not sure we would have the best offer but our offer would easily be competitive in that.

If that’s the case, once again, the lottery is going to be critical. Blazers offer gets infinitely better if they move up. If they move down, the only hope would be Embiid demanding to goto Portland… then hoping Morey doesn’t go hard-ball on Embiid like he did with Simmons and tell Embiid to shove it with his trade demand.

I have a feeling with what Lillard said the only pick they probably won't trade is #1 and maybe #2, any other pick we get is likely one of the key pieces in a trade. There is some speculation though that Lillard putting this team between a rock and a hard place publicly could cause the price to go up on any player we try to get. It's one thing if Lillard is putting the screws to this team behind closed doors but talking about it to reporters makes it a tougher situation.

[DusterBuster]

I will say if the Sixers lose Harden, I could see Embiid force his way out of Philly. We could easily be in play for that type of trade, I am not sure we would have the best offer but our offer would easily be competitive in that.

If that’s the case, once again, the lottery is going to be critical. Blazers offer gets infinitely better if they move up. If they move down, the only hope would be Embiid demanding to goto Portland… then hoping Morey doesn’t go hard-ball on Embiid like he did with Simmons and tell Embiid to shove it with his trade demand.

I have a feeling with what Lillard said the only pick they probably won't trade is #1 and maybe #2, any other pick we get is likely one of the key pieces in a trade. There is some speculation though that Lillard putting this team between a rock and a hard place publicly could cause the price to go up on any player we try to get. It's one thing if Lillard is putting the screws to this team behind closed doors but talking about it to reporters makes it a tougher situation.

I have a steaming hot take… if the Sixers know Harden is leaving this summer and the Sixers don’t make it past round 2… aaaannnnddd the Blazers get the #1 pick. I think they would trade it for Embiid.

*runs and hides*

To your point tho, you’re correct about the Blazers being in a rough spot for trades. That said, I don’t think the public nature of the talks makes much of a difference. Even if it’s behind closed doors from the public, it would still be pretty well known knowledge within NBA circles.

[tester551]

If that’s the case, once again, the lottery is going to be critical. Blazers offer gets infinitely better if they move up. If they move down, the only hope would be Embiid demanding to goto Portland… then hoping Morey doesn’t go hard-ball on Embiid like he did with Simmons and tell Embiid to shove it with his trade demand.

I have a feeling with what Lillard said the only pick they probably won't trade is #1 and maybe #2, any other pick we get is likely one of the key pieces in a trade. There is some speculation though that Lillard putting this team between a rock and a hard place publicly could cause the price to go up on any player we try to get. It's one thing if Lillard is putting the screws to this team behind closed doors but talking about it to reporters makes it a tougher situation.

I have a steaming hot take… if the Sixers know Harden is leaving this summer and the Sixers don’t make it past round 2… aaaannnnddd the Blazers get the #1 pick. I think they would trade it for Embiid.

*runs and hides*

To your point tho, you’re correct about the Blazers being in a rough spot for trades. That said, I don’t think the public nature of the talks makes much of a difference. Even if it’s behind closed doors from the public, it would still be pretty well known knowledge within NBA circles.

Embiid is the only player that I think I'd trade the #1 pick for (maybe Evan Mobley)....

[DusterBuster]

I have a feeling with what Lillard said the only pick they probably won't trade is #1 and maybe #2, any other pick we get is likely one of the key pieces in a trade. There is some speculation though that Lillard putting this team between a rock and a hard place publicly could cause the price to go up on any player we try to get. It's one thing if Lillard is putting the screws to this team behind closed doors but talking about it to reporters makes it a tougher situation.

I have a steaming hot take… if the Sixers know Harden is leaving this summer and the Sixers don’t make it past round 2… aaaannnnddd the Blazers get the #1 pick. I think they would trade it for Embiid.

*runs and hides*

To your point tho, you’re correct about the Blazers being in a rough spot for trades. That said, I don’t think the public nature of the talks makes much of a difference. Even if it’s behind closed doors from the public, it would still be pretty well known knowledge within NBA circles.

Embiid is the only player that I think I'd trade the #1 pick for (maybe Evan Mobley)....

Giannis?

I’ll be honest, I would trade the Wemby pick for Giannis and not even blink an eye.

[monopoman]

I'd rather have Giannis than Embiid so to me Embiid is good but I think the #1 pick has more value. I could see a Giannis for the #1 pick trade straight up, though I doubt the Bucks would take that.

[BlazersBroncos]

Giannis is a pipe dream for #1 - MIL isnt trading him.

But Joel, if Harden leaves, may be in play. Its a dilemma - Victor is likely going to be a unicorn, HOF caliber guy. But history says he wont really hit his stride until Y3. Dame is going to be trending downward by then. Moving #1 for Joel puts us, IMO, as a clear cut contender for at least 2-3 years. As in, Top-3 betting in Vegas for the ring contender.

If you truly want to maximize Dame, you trade #1 for Joel. But the window isnt big. I think its worth it, its all about a ring. The timeline variance between Dame and Victor makes me think those two are less likely to be a ring duo than Dame and Joel. And I LOVE Victor as a prospect. But you take what you know when you have superstar going into his year 33 season. Dame and Embiid would be insane, and we would still have Sharpe.

Its short sighted and there are ups and downs galore both directions, but I think I would move #1 for Joel.

FWIW - Joel for Nurkic, Little, Knox and Keon works in the TC. Not sure if we would keep or move Simons in the deal, but I dont include him. The deal would have to be Joel for #1 and we can use Simons as a 6th man floor spacer or move him for talent that rounds the roster out.

[DusterBuster]

I'd rather have Giannis than Embiid so to me Embiid is good but I think the #1 pick has more value. I could see a Giannis for the #1 pick trade straight up, though I doubt the Bucks would take that.

I wasn’t trying to get into if the Bucks would consider. Not my point, just that he’s one I would trade that pick for without flinching.

[DusterBuster]

Dame definitely isn’t being coy about his love of Bridges. To me, this looks like it’s becoming a one way or the other situation. Either get Bridges to Portland or Dame will ask for a trade to Brooklyn.

If it does come down to that, I think Dame will be a Net. Brooklyn will want Dame and know they can hold out. Don’t think Portland will have enough to offer an overwhelming trade to the Nets, also don’t think the Nets want to bottom out.

[BlazersBroncos]

I think Portland has a better offer for Bridges than they do for Dame.

Simons and 5 is a way better offer than anything BRK could offer for Dame.

[DusterBuster]

I think Portland has a better offer for Bridges than they do for Dame.

Simons and 5 is a way better offer than anything BRK could offer for Dame.

Better offer doesn’t matter. If they want Dame, they can just stonewall and wait it out. Best offer is not the end all be all.