2023 Draft Discussion Part III

[Yallbecrazy]

I don't think Coulibaly will go top 10 in this draft (at least I hope not for our sake). But I have been saying for a while now that I believe in a redraft he will be one of the 10 best players from this draft and I stand by that. He looks like a mix of Mikal Bridges, OG, and Middleton.

Can you link his stats from the top professional league in France only and not a u21 league or whatever?

[BoyzNTheHood]

There were a number of guys who had Franz in the top 6 in a stacked at the top draft.

The point remains, he’s an outlier. People though he would be a solid NBA starter in a Swiss Army knife type role. No one pegged him as a scorer in the NBA.

He's an outlier as a scorer. Not sure what that has to do with Cissoko, though. If Cissoko is just a Swiss Army knife he could be worth it, as long as he's more Scottie than Bembry. Shane Battier was a better pick than Rudy Gay.

It’s quite obvious what it has to do with Cissoko. People are vouching for Cissoko based on Franz’s success, but a lot of Franz’s appeal comes from his ability to drop 20 on people while doing everything else.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I don't think Coulibaly will go top 10 in this draft (at least I hope not for our sake). But I have been saying for a while now that I believe in a redraft he will be one of the 10 best players from this draft and I stand by that. He looks like a mix of Mikal Bridges, OG, and Middleton.

If he goes top 10 that means someone else drops so it’s not the worst case scenario in my opinion.

[Kevin Willis]

I don't think Coulibaly will go top 10 in this draft (at least I hope not for our sake). But I have been saying for a while now that I believe in a redraft he will be one of the 10 best players from this draft and I stand by that. He looks like a mix of Mikal Bridges, OG, and Middleton.

Can you link his stats from the top professional league in France only and not a u21 league or whatever?

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Bilal-Coulibaly/Summary/175550

Team is Boulogne-Levallois.

[Yallbecrazy]

I don't think Coulibaly will go top 10 in this draft (at least I hope not for our sake). But I have been saying for a while now that I believe in a redraft he will be one of the 10 best players from this draft and I stand by that. He looks like a mix of Mikal Bridges, OG, and Middleton.

Can you link his stats from the top professional league in France only and not a u21 league or whatever?

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Bilal-Coulibaly/Summary/175550

Team is Boulogne-Levallois.

Thanks, seems too raw for me to like if there's other good guys on the board. Maybe if the others I like are gone and we somehow have a pick in the lates 20s or after and he's still available.

[PhilBlackson]

If Bilal is actually 6'8....it's REALLY, REALLY bugging me that Presti just so happens to have the pick before us...

If there's another exec in the league that loves him some Long Bois (no h), it's him & he's known to be willing to take a gamble and has an abundance of picks still left to try out whatever hand. If he so much as hears a peep that we like BC, I'll guarantee he takes him....so if we do, that be an even better kept secret than Scottie was (although it actually wasn't when the rumour brought Chad Ford back from the dead to report it lol).

[tdotrep2]

If Bilal is actually 6'8....it's REALLY, REALLY bugging me that Presti just so happens to have the pick before us...

If there's another exec in the league that loves him some Long Bois (no h), it's him & he's known to be willing to take a gamble and has an abundance of picks still left to try out whatever hand. If he so much as hears a peep that we like BC, I'll guarantee he takes him....so if we do, that be an even better kept secret than Scottie was (although it actually wasn't when the rumour brought Chad Ford back from the dead to report it lol).

bilal, vidy, hawkins. we are gonna have a good choice here. but i do agree its a shame to drop those 2 slots, could be the difference between getting a guy the office really like and missing out.

[gha4life]

I don't think Coulibaly will go top 10 in this draft (at least I hope not for our sake). But I have been saying for a while now that I believe in a redraft he will be one of the 10 best players from this draft and I stand by that. He looks like a mix of Mikal Bridges, OG, and Middleton.

Been watching mocks all year I vent even seen one with him in the 30

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[PhilBlackson]

If Bilal is actually 6'8....it's REALLY, REALLY bugging me that Presti just so happens to have the pick before us...

If there's another exec in the league that loves him some Long Bois (no h), it's him & he's known to be willing to take a gamble and has an abundance of picks still left to try out whatever hand. If he so much as hears a peep that we like BC, I'll guarantee he takes him....so if we do, that be an even better kept secret than Scottie was (although it actually wasn't when the rumour brought Chad Ford back from the dead to report it lol).

bilal, vidy, hawkins. we are gonna have a good choice here. but i do agree its a shame to drop those 2 slots, could be the difference between getting a guy the office really like and missing out.

I don't disagree we should still have good choice but Bilal was already up there with Sidy & Keyonte for me even when I thought he was just 6'6 because physically (frame, athleticism & speed) he's just such a clear stand out which is crazy given how young he still is.

The only thing that held me a bit back from declaring him as the guy I'd take is that I thought he was the height of a guard and usually to stand out, the handle & jumper has to look A LOT cleaner at this stage than his does. But being 6'8 (which would mean he's been growing & who's to say he's done), forward nowadays is almost a blended position between SF/PF so his skill doesn't have to be top notch just yet but man, physically as prospect, you can already see that if that kid can refine his game he could be a monster.

That would be upsetting because it already ticked me way off that we made the trade for Yak (when we could've just waited to sign him as a FA) because we sacrificed almost a guaranteed prospect with the potential to alter the franchise trajectory (we were top 6 at time of the trade)....but if on top of that Bilal ends up being the steal he looks like he could be & Presti sticks it to Masai (*ahem trying to stir up SGA rumours), smh lool that's just nice kick to the lower mid section to end just a dogsh*t season lol

[Mark_83]

I don't think Coulibaly will go top 10 in this draft (at least I hope not for our sake). But I have been saying for a while now that I believe in a redraft he will be one of the 10 best players from this draft and I stand by that. He looks like a mix of Mikal Bridges, OG, and Middleton.

Been watching mocks all year I vent even seen one with him in the 30

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Check ESPN 2024 Draft top 10. He was expected to go then, not this year.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/35707557/2024-nba-mock-draft-why-bronny-james-projected-top-10-pick

[ArthurVandelay]

I don't think Coulibaly will go top 10 in this draft (at least I hope not for our sake). But I have been saying for a while now that I believe in a redraft he will be one of the 10 best players from this draft and I stand by that. He looks like a mix of Mikal Bridges, OG, and Middleton.

Been watching mocks all year I vent even seen one with him in the 30

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https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2023-nba-mock-draft/

They have him at 19

[ArthurVandelay]

Can you link his stats from the top professional league in France only and not a u21 league or whatever?

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Bilal-Coulibaly/Summary/175550

Team is Boulogne-Levallois.

Thanks, seems too raw for me to like if there's other good guys on the board. Maybe if the others I like are gone and we somehow have a pick in the lates 20s or after and he's still available.

Giannis was pretty raw in 2013.

Don’t think they are the same player but projecting out a few seasons, I think Coulibaly will be a 2-way star.

[gha4life]

I don't think Coulibaly will go top 10 in this draft (at least I hope not for our sake). But I have been saying for a while now that I believe in a redraft he will be one of the 10 best players from this draft and I stand by that. He looks like a mix of Mikal Bridges, OG, and Middleton.

Been watching mocks all year I vent even seen one with him in the 30

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https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2023-nba-mock-draft/

They have him at 19

Interesting, I first heard of him from this board,

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[PhilBlackson]

I don't think Coulibaly will go top 10 in this draft (at least I hope not for our sake). But I have been saying for a while now that I believe in a redraft he will be one of the 10 best players from this draft and I stand by that. He looks like a mix of Mikal Bridges, OG, and Middleton.

Been watching mocks all year I vent even seen one with him in the 30

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https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2023-nba-mock-draft/

They have him at 19

That won’t last if he shows up at the Combine at 6’8+ (the height is critical). At 6’6, I think he’d still have a slight buzz but if he’s bigger, it won’t surprise me if suddenly becomes THE talk of the “non top 10” who could actually end up in the top 10 of the draft.

Every year guys fly up draft boards (Dyson Daniels, Jalen Williams last year..) and this kid is physically superior to those guys. I suspect he’ll look even stronger by the time he makes it to the Combine than as you said earlier, watch his stock skyrocket. While I realize even at 6’8 he still wouldn’t be a “Giannis” level prospect because GA’s extra length is a separator, but you can see it now, media throwing in names like his into comparisons due to the frame and athleticism. Even if they end up making inaccurate comparison, I can already quite easily see his stock exploding if he’s grown even more than the original 6’6 listing.

[WuTang_CMB]

Masai went to France to scout both Wemby and Coulibaly

[Dalek]

Let us not forget Amari Bailey. Man defends at the point of attack, hits threes and can be a solid secondary ballhandler. Numbers 11.2 PTS, 3.8 REB, 2.2 AST, 1.1 STL on 50/39/70. Last 6 games: 17pts on 65.6 TS%, 71% at the rim, 43% from midrange, 47 3P% (7-15), 82 FT%

Drake dated his mom!

Read on Twitter

He was teammates with Christian Koloko at Sierra Canyon.

Here is matching up against Raps in the Rico UCLA Runs Check 10 min mark:

Watch on YouTube

He had one of his best games against Gonzaga in the Sweet 16 and sadly would have won the game if not for the Strawther three.

Watch on YouTube

Serious kid:

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[dozo]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/36244098/bilal-coulibaly-joins-teammate-victor-wembanyama-nba-draft

The challenge he will face is that, like Wembanyama, his season will likely extend well into June, depending on how far into the playoffs the Metropolitans go. That might make it difficult for Coulibaly to participate in pre-draft activities, including private workouts, as most NBA teams would hope.

His season with the Mets92 might hurt his 23 stock.

Coulibaly, whose parents are from Mali, stands 6-foot-8, 194 pounds with a 7-foot-2 wingspan. He is the third youngest player in the ESPN 100 at age 18 but is on a different trajectory from most prospects in this draft, being an almost complete unknown even in France a year ago after a late growth spurt that took him from 5-11 as a 16-year-old.

[Psubs]

Been watching mocks all year I vent even seen one with him in the 30

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https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2023-nba-mock-draft/

They have him at 19

That won’t last if he shows up at the Combine at 6’8+ (the height is critical). At 6’6, I think he’d still have a slight buzz but if he’s bigger, it won’t surprise me if suddenly becomes THE talk of the “non top 10” who could actually end up in the top 10 of the draft.

Every year guys fly up draft boards (Dyson Daniels, Jalen Williams last year..) and this kid is physically superior to those guys. I suspect he’ll look even stronger by the time he makes it to the Combine than as you said earlier, watch his stock skyrocket. While I realize even at 6’8 he still wouldn’t be a “Giannis” level prospect because GA’s extra length is a separator, but you can see it now, media throwing in names like his into comparisons due to the frame and athleticism. Even if they end up making inaccurate comparison, I can already quite easily see his stock exploding if he’s grown even more than the original 6’6 listing.

He might rise like Ousmane Dieng!!! He went all the way up to #11.

[Psubs]

The point remains, he’s an outlier. People though he would be a solid NBA starter in a Swiss Army knife type role. No one pegged him as a scorer in the NBA.

He's an outlier as a scorer. Not sure what that has to do with Cissoko, though. If Cissoko is just a Swiss Army knife he could be worth it, as long as he's more Scottie than Bembry. Shane Battier was a better pick than Rudy Gay.

It’s quite obvious what it has to do with Cissoko. People are vouching for Cissoko based on Franz’s success, but a lot of Franz’s appeal comes from his ability to drop 20 on people while doing everything else.

Franz averaged 12.5 ppg his sophomore year (which I kept pointing out however that he was a young for his class).

[BoyzNTheHood]

Been watching mocks all year I vent even seen one with him in the 30

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https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2023-nba-mock-draft/

They have him at 19

That won’t last if he shows up at the Combine at 6’8+ (the height is critical). At 6’6, I think he’d still have a slight buzz but if he’s bigger, it won’t surprise me if suddenly becomes THE talk of the “non top 10” who could actually end up in the top 10 of the draft.

Every year guys fly up draft boards (Dyson Daniels, Jalen Williams last year..) and this kid is physically superior to those guys. I suspect he’ll look even stronger by the time he makes it to the Combine than as you said earlier, watch his stock skyrocket. While I realize even at 6’8 he still wouldn’t be a “Giannis” level prospect because GA’s extra length is a separator, but you can see it now, media throwing in names like his into comparisons due to the frame and athleticism. Even if they end up making inaccurate comparison, I can already quite easily see his stock exploding if he’s grown even more than the original 6’6 listing.

Giannis has a 7’3” wingspan, just one inch longer than Coulibaly’s reported 7’2” so length isn’t really a separator for them. Giannis knows how to use his size and body to his advantage, unlike someone like Javale McGee for example. Knowing your strengths and taking advantage of them are huge. Giannis plays so aggressively the referees are forced to give him calls.

If Bilal is 6’8” that’s at least 3 inches shorter than Giannis so he won’t have the same advantages. However, iirc Giannis was measured at 6’9” entering the league so if Bilal has another growth spurt in him that would be ideal. At the moment he measures more favourably to Pascal. Giannis also has bigger hands than Kawhi so there’s that lol he’s just a (Greek) freak.