Opinion: Magic trade pick #11 for...?

mattdelray1220 · Post #1 » by **mattdelray1220** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 12:02 am

Just for fun. Who do you think is a realistic target for the Magic to trade the #11 pick for? 1 for 1.

I'll go first. Anfernee Simons - I know his defense is suspect but playing with Fultz and Suggs should mitigate some of that. Also if we add lets say Hendricks or Walker with our other pick. Along with the miracle of JI coming back. I doubt pick 11 would be better than Simons.

Skin · Post #2 » by **Skin** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 12:17 am

Portland would want more. 11 is not really worth that much tbh. There's a better chance we take a swing and miss on someone. I'd go for GG Jackson and just let him grow in the G League.

thelead · Post #3 » by **thelead** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 12:21 am

the title of this thread needs a bit more info...

thelead · Post #4 » by **thelead** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 12:33 am

If Portland isn't trading Dame, they're gonna want immediate difference makers instead of another lotto pick IMO.

Late lotto picks don't usually get traded so I'm not sure what we could actually get for it.

MagicFan101 · Post #5 » by **MagicFan101** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 12:50 am

The Effect · Post #6 » by **The Effect** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:42 am

i dont know if the mavs would do it since they are likely looking for more immediate help, but i would love to get Josh Green on the team, and think he would be well worth the #11 pick

jezzerinho · Post #7 » by **jezzerinho** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:27 am

11 plus WCJ plus Harris for LaVine.

Ralof · Post #8 » by **Ralof** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:17 am

jezzerinho wrote:11 plus WCJ plus Harris for LaVine.

this,just would not touch Wcj(would send Suggs + lottery pick)
problem,do no think the bulls want to trade him.

they are stuck there with the ownership not willing to tank and developing young players.

drsd · Post #9 » by **drsd** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:42 am

mattdelray1220 wrote:Just for fun. Who do you think is a realistic target for the Magic to trade the #11 pick for? 1 for 1.

I'll go first. Anfernee Simons - I know his defense is suspect but playing with Fultz and Suggs should mitigate some of that. Also if we add lets say Hendricks or Walker with our other pick. Along with the miracle of JI coming back. I doubt pick 11 would be better than Simons.

If the Magic can get a starting quality player for the #11, that is a great haul. Historically, draft assets in this range are projected in trade simulations as "significant bench player". The Magic is not going to trade the pick for such a player: but as a thought experiment this is a player like Shake Milton. That's the picks "intrinsic" worth.

So yes the draft assets are all about upside and "potential". In that they are traded to a team looking to disassemble its roster. Portland may very well be such a team and a realistic trade could be G-Harris, #11, this year's SRP and a top-10 protected 2024 pick for Simons.
There Portland gets an expiring and three "well-just-maybe" type assets for a player they cannot further develop. It is also an interesting use of assets for Orlando as well.

CarraT · Post #10 » by **CarraT** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 9:06 am

a 2023 Top 10 pick! Nothing more, nothing less.

drsd · Post #11 » by **drsd** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:36 am

CarraT wrote:a 2023 Top 10 pick! Nothing more, nothing less.

WIll any of us be surprised if Orlando drafts 7th, and then trades that with the 11 for the 6th? It is a good trade for both teams, assuming Orlando eyes "its guy" at the 6 slot.

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orlando_joe · Post #12 » by **orlando_joe** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 3:29 pm

drsd wrote:
CarraT wrote:a 2023 Top 10 pick! Nothing more, nothing less.

WIll any of us be surprised if Orlando drafts 7th, and then trades that with the 11 for the 6th? It is a good trade for both teams, assuming Orlando eyes "its guy" at the 6 slot.

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if magic can get dick and hendricks out of 7 and 11 thats fine

jezzerinho · Post #13 » by **jezzerinho** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 4:48 pm

orlando_joe wrote:
drsd wrote:
CarraT wrote:a 2023 Top 10 pick! Nothing more, nothing less.

WIll any of us be surprised if Orlando drafts 7th, and then trades that with the 11 for the 6th? It is a good trade for both teams, assuming Orlando eyes "its guy" at the 6 slot.

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if magic can get dick and hendricks out of 7 and 11 thats fine

It's funny. That'd be your dream scenario and it would be my nightmare one. That's why nailing the draft is hard!

zaymon · Post #14 » by **zaymon** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 4:50 pm

jezzerinho wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:
drsd wrote:
WIll any of us be surprised if Orlando drafts 7th, and then trades that with the 11 for the 6th? It is a good trade for both teams, assuming Orlando eyes "its guy" at the 6 slot.

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if magic can get dick and hendricks out of 7 and 11 thats fine

It's funny. That'd be your dream scenario and it would be my nightmare one. That's why nailing the draft is hard!

For me its my middle of the road scenario so cheers !

Skin · Post #15 » by **Skin** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 5:52 pm

orlando_joe wrote:
drsd wrote:
CarraT wrote:a 2023 Top 10 pick! Nothing more, nothing less.

WIll any of us be surprised if Orlando drafts 7th, and then trades that with the 11 for the 6th? It is a good trade for both teams, assuming Orlando eyes "its guy" at the 6 slot.

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if magic can get dick and hendricks out of 7 and 11 thats fine

I don't see any way Hendricks gets past Dallas at 10. Dick might make it to 11 though. It's easy to find guys who can shoot. Caleb Houstan. Dick has to give me more than that to justify taking him in the lottery.

drsd · Post #16 » by **drsd** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 5:54 pm

jezzerinho wrote:It's funny. That'd be your dream scenario and it would be my nightmare one. That's why nailing the draft is hard!

If the Magic go 2 in the draft: there will be anarchy on this board in the Miller vs. Henderson attacks. Here's hoping the Magic go 1 or 3???

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MagicFan101 · Post #17 » by **MagicFan101** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:21 pm

orlando_joe wrote:
drsd wrote:
CarraT wrote:a 2023 Top 10 pick! Nothing more, nothing less.

WIll any of us be surprised if Orlando drafts 7th, and then trades that with the 11 for the 6th? It is a good trade for both teams, assuming Orlando eyes "its guy" at the 6 slot.

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if magic can get dick and hendricks out of 7 and 11 thats fine

Hey man, what you do in a Gas Station parking lot is your own business.

orlando_joe · Post #18 » by **orlando_joe** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:19 pm

jezzerinho wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:
drsd wrote:
WIll any of us be surprised if Orlando drafts 7th, and then trades that with the 11 for the 6th? It is a good trade for both teams, assuming Orlando eyes "its guy" at the 6 slot.

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if magic can get dick and hendricks out of 7 and 11 thats fine

It's funny. That'd be your dream scenario and it would be my nightmare one. That's why nailing the draft is hard!

not dream only 11 for hendricks i like..lol...hope magic jump up one more time to top 3 dont really want the twins..just not sure at 7 if can get hendricks at 11 other then shooting not ideal to pick grady at 7 i know..if pick goes 7 maybe jump back a couple spots for future pick? maybe 9 with jazz? take hendricks at 9

Skybox · Post #19 » by **Skybox** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:12 pm

drsd wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:It's funny. That'd be your dream scenario and it would be my nightmare one. That's why nailing the draft is hard!

If the Magic go 2 in the draft: there will be anarchy on this board in the Miller vs. Henderson attacks. Here's hoping the Magic go 1 or 3???

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Easiest decision ever. Greatest needs AND highest scouts rating vs really high-upside backing up our best player (who’s 20).

Scoot is Ja-like

Miller is maybe Jabari, possibly Zaire, potentially Ingram if you really squint

Max Power · Post #20 » by **Max Power** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 9:41 pm

I’d be all for the Magic trading for a Josh Green or Simons if they feel the middle lotto picks they have won’t produce a good starting 2, which is obviously the Magic’s biggest needs. This draft looks more like an athletic 2 draft with the exception of Gradey Dick who’s the shooter.