NBA PLAYOFFS: GAME 3: Phoenix Suns @ Los Angeles Clippers (Tied 1-1) | Thursday | 7:30 PM

[SunsRback4Good]

I just put $1k Ayton scores over 14 in game 3 !!!! Let’s go

How do you know Deez?

[kennydorglas]

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A Clippers beatwriter complaining about foul calls against the Clippers is just so unprofessional lol. Yeah the one where Booker grabbed Westbrook should’ve been called but that was about the only terrible call. Everything else went both ways, equally crap calls on both sides.

They just lost a Scott Foster game lol
not sure how they can complain about the zebras

[insomniac00]

They want to see our team winning by 40 and sitting all our starters by halftime.

Everything less that that is a failure. Who cares if they win or lose on the road lol.

Right! It’s pretty sad what this board has become. The Clippers are a DEEP team. There will never be an easy win in the playoffs. The Suns won, that’s all that matters.


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Do either of you realize that if Suns are struggling to barely squeak by Clippers team without Kawhi/George then how they look against other far better teams? Or are we hoping that Jokic/Murray suffer a convenient injury so they miss the next round as well and so on and so forth?

I hate the BS of “oh it’s just wins, just be happy”. Plenty of us here voiced our concerns last season when the Suns were struggling badly to beat an inexperienced Pelicans team that was also missing Zion in the playoffs. It took 37 yr old CP3 having to go 14/14 perfect shooting just to win that series. And guess what happened next round fellas?

So stop this nonsense. Save star I know you’re always a glass half full kinda guy and that’s a good mindset to have life wise sure. But in sports, reality sets in and struggling to beat teams they should handedly beat WILL catch up to you just like it did last season.

And blowouts aren’t rare in the playoffs. Look at the Boston/Hawks series if you think it never happens.

Neither of you know anything about sustainability…you think Booker/KD/CP3 having to play 45 mins every single game to win is a good strategy? Not to mention how Booker has to play perfect basketball in each one. Like seriously come on I know both of y’all watch enough basketball to answer this question.

If Booker even has “average” superstar games (like say 25 pts, 5 assists on 50% shooting), the Suns are looking at being 0-3 right now.

I’m not saying don’t be happy about the win. Because it could be worse, we very well may have been 0-3 but thankfully are up 2-1 with home court advantage back now. But also, don’t just dismiss others concerns as if it’s not valid.

Every game/series is different and it's very difficult to try to project ahead. To those who say "we were concerned and look we eventually lost!", well yeah you're going to be right every season we dont win a title.

Personally I dont see the point in freaking out. Cant control it anyway. Take the wins, dont get too high or low. And hope for the best

[sashaturiaf]

Glad to get the W but it's clear we have a lot to work on.

The bench play has been abominable and Ayton is a complete passenger out there. We know that Book and KD will be good for theirs and Craig has been a nice surprise on offense but there are a lot of flaws that will get us in trouble against a better opponent.

I'm almost wishing this series goes 6 or 7 as we need the reps to develop chemistry, trust and belief as a team. KD getting injured on that pre game layup really set us back a lot as playoff games are not where you want to be figuring out your rotations and roles.

[kennydorglas]

One thing to think about now:
When we traded for KD, Okogie was the main ballhandler in most of our sets (the zipper ones)
With him on the bench, we're back at cp3 slowing down the tempo and barely any offball movement.

[BurningHeart]

Lol this board is ridiculous. Complaining even in wins.. you guys are embarrassing.


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It's because we know efforts like this won't get it done in later rounds. The mindset of "a win is a win" is not a great one because things simply have more to it than that.

It's not about being upset even in wins or thinking we need to win every game or every game by 30. It's about best sharpening to contend for a title, which is our stated purpose with this roster.

If this is supposed to be treated as some gelling period then we better be doing so. If we keep playing like this, it doesn't matter if we're winning these, we'd be getting wrecked going forward.

[Jdiddy701]

Lol this board is ridiculous. Complaining even in wins.. you guys are embarrassing.


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It's because we know efforts like this won't get it done in later rounds. The mindset of "a win is a win" is not a great one because things simply have more to it than that.

It's not about being upset even in wins or thinking we need to win every game or every game by 30. It's about best sharpening to contend for a title, which is our stated purpose with this roster.

If this is supposed to be treated as some gelling period then we better be doing so. If we keep playing like this, it doesn't matter if we're winning these, we'd be getting wrecked going forward.

I’m not thinking of Denver or any future teams until we’re there. The Suns are still figuring out their own chemistry, even while winning games. I agree there are things to be concerned about but I trust two great players (KD + Book), master mind PG (really regressed game, but still has high IQ) and a solid head coach to figure it out. Speaking of Monty, remember when y’all we’re talking about how dumb Monty is to change our lineup with Torrey but completely ignoring how he’s been our 3rd best player?


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[BurningHeart]

Lol this board is ridiculous. Complaining even in wins.. you guys are embarrassing.


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It's because we know efforts like this won't get it done in later rounds. The mindset of "a win is a win" is not a great one because things simply have more to it than that.

It's not about being upset even in wins or thinking we need to win every game or every game by 30. It's about best sharpening to contend for a title, which is our stated purpose with this roster.

If this is supposed to be treated as some gelling period then we better be doing so. If we keep playing like this, it doesn't matter if we're winning these, we'd be getting wrecked going forward.

I’m not thinking of Denver or any future teams until we’re there. The Suns are still figuring out their own chemistry, even while winning games. I agree there are things to be concerned about but I trust two great players (KD + Book), master mind PG (really regressed game, but still has high IQ) and a solid head coach to figure it out. Speaking of Monty, remember when y’all we’re talking about how dumb Monty is to change our lineup with Torrey but completely ignoring how he’s been our 3rd best player?


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Absolutely true too.

I don't know about the last point haha. I don't watch enough to criticize coach. Craig is playing really well though.

[bhawk]

Ive said this multiple times here
DA definitely looks happier when hes on the bench

Yeah. What the heck is that about? Let's start Bizzy and take some pressure off.

Looks like Ayton has a bad case of performance anxiety. Any sports psychologists around? Let get this boy some help and fast! Hypnotism, maybe?

[Biff]

Ive said this multiple times here
DA definitely looks happier when hes on the bench

Yeah. What the heck is that about? Let's start Bizzy and take some pressure off.

Looks like Ayton has a bad case of performance anxiety. Any sports psychologists around? Let get this boy some help and fast! Hypnotism, maybe?

We need to send the dude to South America to do some ayahuasca or something. He's like Tom Hanks from Big, a child in a man's body.

[Maze]

Don't think I've ever been more frustrated after a playoff win.This team doesn't look good enough to win a championship right now.Just don't have the chemistry.CP3 looks washed every other game.Ayton's not it.So far, KD looks like a solid role player.Not what I expected.I guess the Celtics gave every team the blueprint to neutralize KD?Could just be the Clippers physicality.They might be the most physical team in the playoffs.

A role player scoring 27, 25 and 28 on amazing efficiency in playoffs (2W-1L)??? And we aren't even talking about his other all around stats on offense and defense.

Just think for a minute what you have said.

Yeah.Kinda like Ayton.Good on the stat sheet, efficient, but not really exerting his will on the game.Outside of the 2nd qtr in game 2, he's looked passive for a guy some call a top 10 player of all time.I expected him to be more aggressive.Everybody knows KD can put up 25 in his sleep.I honestly forget he's on the court most of time.

[Jdiddy701]

Don't think I've ever been more frustrated after a playoff win.This team doesn't look good enough to win a championship right now.Just don't have the chemistry.CP3 looks washed every other game.Ayton's not it.So far, KD looks like a solid role player.Not what I expected.I guess the Celtics gave every team the blueprint to neutralize KD?Could just be the Clippers physicality.They might be the most physical team in the playoffs.

A role player scoring 27, 25 and 28 on amazing efficiency in playoffs (2W-1L)??? And we aren't even talking about his other all around stats on offense and defense.

Just think for a minute what you have said.

Yeah.Kinda like Ayton.Good on the stat sheet, efficient, but not really exerting his will on the game.Outside of the 2nd qtr in game 2, he's looked passive for a guy some call a top 10 player of all time.I expected him to be more aggressive.Everybody knows KD can put up 25 in his sleep.I honestly forget he's on the court most of time.

Ask Book if KD is just a role player.


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[spanishninja]

i dunno if we are still talking about Scott Foster anymore after tuesday, but it looks like he is working the Atlanta game tonight so i cant see him coming for a 1230 game 4. thought i would cover all the bases

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[irish22022]

When monty moved to the KD Ayton PnR late in the third it looked really good. I think there will be ways to fix Ayton a bit.

I also think if they go small they are inviting the suns to demolish them if Monty will nut up and bench Ayton and CP when Payne is back. KD at the 5:

Payne
Booker
Okogie
Craig
KD

Good luck going small against that lineup. We should absolutely embarrass them. But, I doubt we'll see that.

[MrMiyagi]

When monty moved to the KD Ayton PnR late in the third it looked really good. I think there will be ways to fix Ayton a bit.

I also think if they go small they are inviting the suns to demolish them if Monty will nut up and bench Ayton and CP when Payne is back. KD at the 5:

Payne
Booker
Okogie
Craig
KD

Good luck going small against that lineup. We should absolutely embarrass them. But, I doubt we'll see that.

Not being able to test these kinds of lineup variations is what makes me apprehensive about our chances to make it out of the West this season. 8 games is all we had, and now we're locked in to playing Book and KD 44+ minutes to eek out wins in round 1...

[Revived]

Right! It’s pretty sad what this board has become. The Clippers are a DEEP team. There will never be an easy win in the playoffs. The Suns won, that’s all that matters.


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Do either of you realize that if Suns are struggling to barely squeak by Clippers team without Kawhi/George then how they look against other far better teams? Or are we hoping that Jokic/Murray suffer a convenient injury so they miss the next round as well and so on and so forth?

I hate the BS of “oh it’s just wins, just be happy”. Plenty of us here voiced our concerns last season when the Suns were struggling badly to beat an inexperienced Pelicans team that was also missing Zion in the playoffs. It took 37 yr old CP3 having to go 14/14 perfect shooting just to win that series. And guess what happened next round fellas?

So stop this nonsense. Save star I know you’re always a glass half full kinda guy and that’s a good mindset to have life wise sure. But in sports, reality sets in and struggling to beat teams they should handedly beat WILL catch up to you just like it did last season.

And blowouts aren’t rare in the playoffs. Look at the Boston/Hawks series if you think it never happens.

Neither of you know anything about sustainability…you think Booker/KD/CP3 having to play 45 mins every single game to win is a good strategy? Not to mention how Booker has to play perfect basketball in each one. Like seriously come on I know both of y’all watch enough basketball to answer this question.

If Booker even has “average” superstar games (like say 25 pts, 5 assists on 50% shooting), the Suns are looking at being 0-3 right now.

I’m not saying don’t be happy about the win. Because it could be worse, we very well may have been 0-3 but thankfully are up 2-1 with home court advantage back now. But also, don’t just dismiss others concerns as if it’s not valid.

Revived it’s the damn playoffs!!!!!! Clippers are one of the deepest teams in the league and hustle ! We are 11 games in with KD and still not to where we can be ! Teams differ and we may play the Nuggets at a higher level than we play the clippers. All that matters in sports is the final score !

U are one of the biggest crybabies on this forum and it’s annoying ! Suns won! Let’s go get another

And you’re the biggest clown on this entire forum and nobody else comes close. Again, if you were a Suns fan last year (which I know you weren’t because you’re one of the KD fanboys that hopped on after the trade), you’d realize all those scraping by wins against Pelicans was a sign of things to come against Dallas. The same way Suns shouldn’t have struggled against Pelicans without their superstar player and then got humiliated next round against a healthy team, Suns shouldn’t be struggling against a Clippers team missing it’s superstars because next series will likely be against a healthy team.

And I already said people can and should be happy about the wins. But dismissing or attacking others very valid concerns is simply stupid and idiotic.

[Revived]

When monty moved to the KD Ayton PnR late in the third it looked really good. I think there will be ways to fix Ayton a bit.

I also think if they go small they are inviting the suns to demolish them if Monty will nut up and bench Ayton and CP when Payne is back. KD at the 5:

Payne
Booker
Okogie
Craig
KD

Good luck going small against that lineup. We should absolutely embarrass them. But, I doubt we'll see that.

Not being able to test these kinds of lineup variations is what makes me apprehensive about our chances to make it out of the West this season. 8 games is all we had, and now we're locked in to playing Book and KD 44+ minutes to eek out wins in round 1...

Our best chance at getting out of West is if there’s a 3rd player that can raise to be somewhat consistent offensively and create a little for themselves. Whether it’s Ayton, CP3, Craig or someone off the bench.

I was watching the Nets/Sixers game yesterday and Tyrese Maxey helps the Sixers so much because even when Embiid and Harden aren’t on the court, Sixers have a go-to shot creator and shot maker. We need that.

[Puff]

This board is ridiculous along with all the NBA pundits slobbering over how great a coach Tyron Lue is.

1. He isdown 2 to 1 to the lousy Monty Williams. How can that be? Tyron is a god and Monty Sucks.
2. He hasn't won crap in LA.
3, He took a loaded team in Cleveland when Lebron, Tyrie and Love were in their prime time years 3 times and won once.
4. Then got fired after after an 0 and 6 start in 2018.

He had a very loaded team in Cleveland and has a loaded team in LA. Certainly the injuries to both Leonard and George are a problem but he also is privileged to have a very good bench due to a very rich owner.

I do not see how he is out coaching Monty. Maybe if Ayton would show up for all 48 minutes as well as CP 3 you might consider Monty equal to the Great Tyron Lue.

Players win championships, not coaches. Coaches get far too much fault when they lose and far too much credit when they win.

Now that I have jinxed us Tyron will probably win the next 3 games. However, if that does happen, I imagine that our players will also suck.

[SunsRback4Good]

When monty moved to the KD Ayton PnR late in the third it looked really good. I think there will be ways to fix Ayton a bit.

I also think if they go small they are inviting the suns to demolish them if Monty will nut up and bench Ayton and CP when Payne is back. KD at the 5:

Payne
Booker
Okogie
Craig
KD

Good luck going small against that lineup. We should absolutely embarrass them. But, I doubt we'll see that.

Not being able to test these kinds of lineup variations is what makes me apprehensive about our chances to make it out of the West this season. 8 games is all we had, and now we're locked in to playing Book and KD 44+ minutes to eek out wins in round 1...

Our best chance at getting out of West is if there’s a 3rd player that can raise to be somewhat consistent offensively and create a little for themselves. Whether it’s Ayton, CP3, Craig or someone off the bench.

I was watching the Nets/Sixers game yesterday and Tyrese Maxey helps the Sixers so much because even when Embiid and Harden aren’t on the court, Sixers have a go-to shot creator and shot maker. We need that.

Maxey has been amazing since last season but really took off this year. He’s a bucket getter who can consistently hit threes. 76ers can’t rely on Tobias as a third option anymore as Maxey took over that role, but they have two great players and took good role players. Also, added Tucker for defense. This is a complete different team with playoff experience only way they lose if they choke considering nearly all Doc Rivers team choke one way or another.

[SunsRback4Good]

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