Trade Discussion 22/23

[Apz]

Im just keeping out of it til after the lottery. Just no point with all tradeprposals before we even know what or if we have a pick. Will kidd be considered a genious if we win the lottery?

[daoneandonly]

My favorite scenario is still a S&T where Minny wants Kyrie and is willing to go all in with Gobert/Ant/Ky by trading us KAT in a S&T.

Then build the defense around Luka and KAT, with another much needed ball handler

[Mavrelous]

My favorite scenario is still a S&T where Minny wants Kyrie and is willing to go all in with Gobert/Ant/Ky by trading us KAT in a S&T.

Then build the defense around Luka and KAT, with another much needed ball handler

They can send Conely, and Mavs could use him as a stopgap option, Kyrie/THJ for KAT/Conely.
KAT would need to swear on the bible that he isn't the best shooting big man in history, and that Dirk Nowitzki is second to none as a prerequisite to this trade.

[daoneandonly]

My favorite scenario is still a S&T where Minny wants Kyrie and is willing to go all in with Gobert/Ant/Ky by trading us KAT in a S&T.

Then build the defense around Luka and KAT, with another much needed ball handler

They can send Conely, and Mavs could use him as a stopgap option, Kyrie/THJ for KAT/Conely.
KAT would need to swear on the bible that he isn't the best shooting big man in history, and that Dirk Nowitzki is second to none as a prerequisite to this trade.

Better twist for the Mavs if the Wolves and more so Kyrie would agree. I think Dirk would welcome him with open arms and selflessly share co-honors

[mxr2000]

Trade anything for Bertans,Powell, hopefully for 2nd round players

[Darren]

I'd think strongly of bringing in Jerami Grant or Kyle Kuzma at reasonable term if Kyrie is gone (as expected) and the Mavs draft a guard. Do not bring back Powell. Move Maxi and/or Bullock if right deal is offered. Extend Green on reasonable terms. Train up Hardy. You still get a really good team. You just need athleticism and good shooters all over the court.

[dirkules_41]

My favorite scenario is still a S&T where Minny wants Kyrie and is willing to go all in with Gobert/Ant/Ky by trading us KAT in a S&T.

Then build the defense around Luka and KAT, with another much needed ball handler

They can send Conely, and Mavs could use him as a stopgap option, Kyrie/THJ for KAT/Conely.
KAT would need to swear on the bible that he isn't the best shooting big man in history, and that Dirk Nowitzki is second to none as a prerequisite to this trade.

Better twist for the Mavs if the Wolves and more so Kyrie would agree. I think Dirk would welcome him with open arms and selflessly share co-honors

I mean I don't even know where to start.... KAT is ALWAYS injured and makes Kyrie look dependable. KAT plays 0 defense and makes Kyrie look like All Defense 1st team. And then last but not least why in the world would Kyrie agree to sign in the Tundra in -30 degrees centigrade...? His first comment after arriving in Dallas was how nice the weather was compared to NYC.

[Maverick41]

Here's another stab at just grabbing multiple playoff rotation players that are win now and fit around the Luka and Kyrie core. 4 way trade:

DAL Receives: DFS + Stewart + Caruso
BRK Receives: Bertans + #10 pick
CHI Receives: #21 pick from Nets
DET Receives: McGee + #22 pick from Nets

DAL turns the #10 pick into 3 solid rotation players who bring toughness and D. Caruso is one of the top guard defenders in the NBA. DFS is a familiar face who Luka likes and is versatile. Stewart is a tough big that can switch, an improving shot and overall just not a guy that you can bully around like our other bigs do. DAL still has 1 more future FRP, the MLE and BAE to get a bigger C and bigger wing (s).

BRK moves up in the draft. They can stretch Bertans contract if needed.

CHI clears more cap and gets a FRP. They probably want more for Caruso but if they do this, they can potentially sign a max free agent like FVV.

DET decides they have too many young bigs and won't be able to afford them all particularly with Stewart gonna be now extension eligible. They get a FRP and draft a guard or wing. They absorb McGee but he can actually be a solid vet for their bigs.

[daoneandonly]

They can send Conely, and Mavs could use him as a stopgap option, Kyrie/THJ for KAT/Conely.
KAT would need to swear on the bible that he isn't the best shooting big man in history, and that Dirk Nowitzki is second to none as a prerequisite to this trade.

Better twist for the Mavs if the Wolves and more so Kyrie would agree. I think Dirk would welcome him with open arms and selflessly share co-honors

I mean I don't even know where to start.... KAT is ALWAYS injured and makes Kyrie look dependable. KAT plays 0 defense and makes Kyrie look like All Defense 1st team. And then last but not least why in the world would Kyrie agree to sign in the Tundra in -30 degrees centigrade...? His first comment after arriving in Dallas was how nice the weather was compared to NYC.

I'm not sure where this KAT always injured narrative started. In 5 of his 8 seasons, he's played 74+ games, 3 of which he played all 82

[Apz]

I'd think strongly of bringing in Jerami Grant or Kyle Kuzma at reasonable term if Kyrie is gone (as expected) and the Mavs draft a guard. Do not bring back Powell. Move Maxi and/or Bullock if right deal is offered. Extend Green on reasonable terms. Train up Hardy. You still get a really good team. You just need athleticism and good shooters all over the court.

If mavs draft a guard the mavs team responsible need to get slapped off the edge of the world.

[41Dirk41]

Better twist for the Mavs if the Wolves and more so Kyrie would agree. I think Dirk would welcome him with open arms and selflessly share co-honors

I mean I don't even know where to start.... KAT is ALWAYS injured and makes Kyrie look dependable. KAT plays 0 defense and makes Kyrie look like All Defense 1st team. And then last but not least why in the world would Kyrie agree to sign in the Tundra in -30 degrees centigrade...? His first comment after arriving in Dallas was how nice the weather was compared to NYC.

I'm not sure where this KAT always injured narrative started. In 5 of his 8 seasons, he's played 74+ games, 3 of which he played all 82

I like KAT but he is not an iron man.

Last 4 seasons he played 35-50-74-29 games. Ugly.

[Mavrelous]

Why I can't stand Kidd? Here is an example from yesterday, Steph Curry calls a TO when they didn't have one, here is Kerr taking responsibility, even though his part is smaller (he challenged and obvious call and lost his last TO, to his defense, his player and his assistant acted like there was no foul).

Read on Twitter

Contrast this with Kidd, who refuses to take responsibility for anything, and constantly throws everyone under the bus.
No one is winning with such coach...

[Maverick41]

Why I can't stand Kidd? Here is an example from yesterday, Steph Curry calls a TO when they didn't have one, here is Kerr taking responsibility, even though his part is smaller (he challenged and obvious call and lost his last TO, to his defense, his player and his assistant acted like there was no foul).

Read on Twitter

Contrast this with Kidd, who refuses to take responsibility for anything, and constantly throws everyone under the bus.
No one is winning with such coach...

Yup Kidd would have totally blamed the player.....or Wood somehow. "I'm watching, just like you guys."

[dirkules_41]

Better twist for the Mavs if the Wolves and more so Kyrie would agree. I think Dirk would welcome him with open arms and selflessly share co-honors

I mean I don't even know where to start.... KAT is ALWAYS injured and makes Kyrie look dependable. KAT plays 0 defense and makes Kyrie look like All Defense 1st team. And then last but not least why in the world would Kyrie agree to sign in the Tundra in -30 degrees centigrade...? His first comment after arriving in Dallas was how nice the weather was compared to NYC.

I'm not sure where this KAT always injured narrative started. In 5 of his 8 seasons, he's played 74+ games, 3 of which he played all 82

Yeah his first 3 probably the man barely stepped foot onto a basketball court in the last year. 41Dirk41 said it all below.

[daoneandonly]

I mean I don't even know where to start.... KAT is ALWAYS injured and makes Kyrie look dependable. KAT plays 0 defense and makes Kyrie look like All Defense 1st team. And then last but not least why in the world would Kyrie agree to sign in the Tundra in -30 degrees centigrade...? His first comment after arriving in Dallas was how nice the weather was compared to NYC.

I'm not sure where this KAT always injured narrative started. In 5 of his 8 seasons, he's played 74+ games, 3 of which he played all 82

Yeah his first 3 probably the man barely stepped foot onto a basketball court in the last year. 41Dirk41 said it all below.

But Kyrie has never done it, he's out more than any player not named Kawhi. It's a moot point as he'll never want to go to Minny and they'll never trade us KAT, but if both guys are injury risks, I'd rather have the higher character guy who can address a huge rebounding hole

[SOUNDCHASER]

Rather than Gobert or Kat just get Lively and then the 10th dropping down to Lively will get another pick and that would also allow you to snag another center Zach Edey and between these 2 you fix the 5 for years to come and then use the BAE to add Naz Reid PF/C and the MLE to steal a SF from someone who has a guy that wants to win some rings starting next season. Rui Cameron maybe make them pay too much or let one go. If we dont get the guy they overpay and we blow a shot at stealing the player. I don't see that as a mistake there is talent enough so not an immediate need for a SF with both Green and Pinson who should develop a bit more time next season. Bullock is expiring so we can trade him as well and or Bertans to add in more SF talent just need to figure out who is going to lose and want out by the TDL.

You have Irving and Luka so the backcourt is special enough to get a guy to want to come here

Or if you want to go SF first in a drop down move then you swap out Gregory Jackson in place of Lively in the scenario above and he is a small ball center if he continues to grow ala Giannis plus he is a SF/PF. Now you have the SF you can defend other SF's with and a decent PF to pair with Kleber in NAZ 6'9 264 pounds plus he can play center and then you have the rookie that won the naismith a 5 that is 7'4 300 pounds and scores 20 + POINTS A NIGHT!!! and you still have the MLE TO chase a veteran 5 like PLumlee or another starter that is needing to leave. Plumlee is a nice option to be the insurance for taking a gamble on that rookie center.

Also as a bonus you need to invite Juan Nunez to visit because he may go undrafted and end up as a free agent PG we can sign to play here and he may be the best PG in Europe currently. 6'4 with an exciting game that would surely excite the team and the crowd when he gets a chance to play.

I actually prefer the approach of getting Gregory instead of Lively because his upside is another Giannis if he grows more.

You still have our expiring player trade chips in Bertans and Bullock to use at the TDL.

[Mr B]

#10 pick/Josh Green for Nic Claxton/DFS who says no?

[arkuo]

I'm not sure where this KAT always injured narrative started. In 5 of his 8 seasons, he's played 74+ games, 3 of which he played all 82

Yeah his first 3 probably the man barely stepped foot onto a basketball court in the last year. 41Dirk41 said it all below.

But Kyrie has never done it, he's out more than any player not named Kawhi. It's a moot point as he'll never want to go to Minny and they'll never trade us KAT, but if both guys are injury risks, I'd rather have the higher character guy who can address a huge rebounding hole

I think it's safer to sign Kyrie now. Then if he acts up, then trade him mid contract. Easier to do that under contract rather than convincing him to sign where you like when he is UFA. If there are teams willing to trade for CP3 when he is like 38 years old, there will be takers for Kyrie Irving. Better than having him walk to LA.

[arkuo]

#10 pick/Josh Green for Nic Claxton/DFS who says no?

I'll take that deal if I were Dallas. BKN probably will too. DFS sucks over there. He doesnt look like an NBA player without Luka to be honest.

[Maverick41]

#10 pick/Josh Green for Nic Claxton/DFS who says no?

Solid trade imo. BRK maybe says no unless they have reason to believe that Claxton won't sign an extension with them which is certainly possible if Kyrie works his magic with Claxton. They supposedly have a really strong friendship.