Toronto Blue Jays (11-8) @ New York Yankees (12-7) | April 21-23, 2023
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (11-8) @ New York Yankees (12-7) | April 21-23, 2023
Lol Schneider got Romano warmed up for 1 out game. Our pen is toast
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Man Cimber/Yimi/Bass have got to be better. feels like these guys give up a run every time they come in
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Betty Spaghetty Cimber threatening to blow it again.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (11-8) @ New York Yankees (12-7) | April 21-23, 2023
up your **** ass, yankees.
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Bautista outplays his contract by more than $70 million over the next four seasons (2013-2016).
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (11-8) @ New York Yankees (12-7) | April 21-23, 2023
Series win in the Bronx always a good thing. Amazing starting pitching lately too. Once the bats get going its gonna be a fun summer. And we got some home games coming up too.
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Good series win. Starters coming through.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (11-8) @ New York Yankees (12-7) | April 21-23, 2023
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (11-8) @ New York Yankees (12-7) | April 21-23, 2023
I was pretty cynical on the Swanson trade, but he's been such a stabilizing presence when a lot of the other top guys are struggling.
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First lost series of the year for the Yankees. They're exposed as bad schedule frauds as well.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (11-8) @ New York Yankees (12-7) | April 21-23, 2023
A healthy Chad Green would be a wonderful addition to the pen, along with Nate Pearson. Not sure when he will be fully ready, but he would be a welcome addition in the late innings.
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JaysRule15 wrote:I was pretty cynical on the Swanson trade, but he's been such a stabilizing presence when a lot of the other top guys are struggling.
I was fine with trading Hernandez. Just not Gurriel and Moreno as well.
Yes they needed Swanson. Probably they couldn't have imagined needing him this much.
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PowerPlant1 wrote:JaysRule15 wrote:I was pretty cynical on the Swanson trade, but he's been such a stabilizing presence when a lot of the other top guys are struggling.
I was fine with trading Hernandez. Just not Gurriel and Moreno as well.
Yes they needed Swanson. Probably they couldn't have imagined needing him this much.
Anyone who watched them last year knew it. They did too. So much so they actually traded a silver slugger for him. Credit where credit is due.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (11-8) @ New York Yankees (12-7) | April 21-23, 2023
Feels nice to be the only team to win a series against either the Rays or Yankees. Especially when we've done both.
This season has felt like it's gotten off to a slow start, but we're legit. It's going to be fun once everything starts firing.
This season has felt like it's gotten off to a slow start, but we're legit. It's going to be fun once everything starts firing.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (11-8) @ New York Yankees (12-7) | April 21-23, 2023
PowerPlant1 wrote:JaysRule15 wrote:I was pretty cynical on the Swanson trade, but he's been such a stabilizing presence when a lot of the other top guys are struggling.
I was fine with trading Hernandez. Just not Gurriel and Moreno as well.
Yes they needed Swanson. Probably they couldn't have imagined needing him this much.
Swanson was pretty damned elite last year. Honestly, we haven't seen the best of him this season...his calling card has been his pin-point command, which he has struggled with a tad thus far.
I still think we're likely to regret trading Moreno, but I don't miss Gurriel. He isn't a good enough fielder to be a fulltime OF, and he isn't a good enough hitter to be a fulltime DH.
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Schad wrote:PowerPlant1 wrote:JaysRule15 wrote:I was pretty cynical on the Swanson trade, but he's been such a stabilizing presence when a lot of the other top guys are struggling.
I was fine with trading Hernandez. Just not Gurriel and Moreno as well.
Yes they needed Swanson. Probably they couldn't have imagined needing him this much.
Swanson was pretty damned elite last year. Honestly, we haven't seen the best of him this season...his calling card has been his pin-point command, which he has struggled with a tad thus far.
I still think we're likely to regret trading Moreno, but I don't miss Gurriel. He isn't a good enough fielder to be a fulltime OF, and he isn't a good enough hitter to be a fulltime DH.
The only factor that makes the Moreno trade somewhat more justifiable is the 4 years of control Varsho came with. Obvs Moreno has even more years, but it was a short term win-now move selling from a position of strength,, but it retains considerable longterm value. Anyway, as people know, we didn't completely sell out the future. Getting rid of Gurriel as a small salary dump was a small bonus.
Unfortunately I don't think the Jays have a high-end catching prospect anywhere in their system to backfill in 3-5 years. (lots can change)
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (11-8) @ New York Yankees (12-7) | April 21-23, 2023
Mehar wrote:A healthy Chad Green would be a wonderful addition to the pen, along with Nate Pearson. Not sure when he will be fully ready, but he would be a welcome addition in the late innings.
Jays really well-positioned to add a tonne of life to their pitching staff post all-star break *all internally/at no cost* with Green, Pearson, Zulueta, and Tiedemann.
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SharoneWright wrote:Mehar wrote:A healthy Chad Green would be a wonderful addition to the pen, along with Nate Pearson. Not sure when he will be fully ready, but he would be a welcome addition in the late innings.
Jays really well-positioned to add a tonne of life to their pitching staff post all-star break *all internally/at no cost* with Green, Pearson, Zulueta, and Tiedemann.
Zulu is inconsistent, Tiedemann needs a lot of stretching out. With no obvious starting role for him right now, a debut in 2024 seems more logical. Green is a maybe for September. Pearson might the most likely in the short term because Cimber, Richard, Bass and even Garcia seem to have difficulty delivering clean innings.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (11-8) @ New York Yankees (12-7) | April 21-23, 2023
Schad wrote:PowerPlant1 wrote:JaysRule15 wrote:I was pretty cynical on the Swanson trade, but he's been such a stabilizing presence when a lot of the other top guys are struggling.
I was fine with trading Hernandez. Just not Gurriel and Moreno as well.
Yes they needed Swanson. Probably they couldn't have imagined needing him this much.
Swanson was pretty damned elite last year. Honestly, we haven't seen the best of him this season...his calling card has been his pin-point command, which he has struggled with a tad thus far.
I still think we're likely to regret trading Moreno, but I don't miss Gurriel. He isn't a good enough fielder to be a fulltime OF, and he isn't a good enough hitter to be a fulltime DH.
I disagree as I miss them both.
Gurriel is good enough to be a DH. hits high average each season. You can never have enough offense.
Unfortunately, on the Jays due to Kirk, Gurriel would likely never be full time DH and living with him on the field wasn't a great prospect. But the bat is missed. The sum total of the replacements for Gurriel's spot in the lineup will likely result in less average. Plus, the loss of Moreno with defense and potential offense. That is too much.
So I say, fine, you can trade Gurriel and Moreno but bring in a good OF defender with a more competent bat than Varsho. That is equal value.
The only way to justify that trade was the optimists who think Varsho will rake at Rogers. Maybe it will happen but no reason to bet on it.
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SharoneWright wrote:Mehar wrote:A healthy Chad Green would be a wonderful addition to the pen, along with Nate Pearson. Not sure when he will be fully ready, but he would be a welcome addition in the late innings.
Jays really well-positioned to add a tonne of life to their pitching staff post all-star break *all internally/at no cost* with Green, Pearson, Zulueta, and Tiedemann.
Pearson is the only BP call up option if he stays healthy and consistent for once in his minor league career. Tiedemann is hopefully kept as a starter. Zulueta has bad #s thus far.
Other than those options, no one in triple A BP is impressing.