2023 Eastern Conference | Round 1 | (4) Cleveland Cavaliers VS. (5) New York Knicks (NYK WINS 4-1)

RHODEY · Post #101 » by **RHODEY** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:09 pm

cgf wrote:
The KnicksFix wrote:
cgf wrote:
So you meant we were the better team if we ignore the first 29% of the season.

Just like if you ignore our record before adding DRose we were better than Atlanta two years ago

I mean. Their starting 5 vs. our starting 5. On paper we were better head to head. That’s what I’m referring to

I know, I'm not surprised by this series either. But it's not wrong to say that on paper they were the better team this season, because they were. They had the better regular season and that's why this series started in cleveland instead of new york.

Now that didn't guarantee that they'd beat us in a best of 7 head-to-head series, but that's a different question than who had the better year.

They had a better regular season because Josh Hart wasn't a Knick until late in the season. With him the entire season we likely have a better record.That said we still dominated the Cavs during the regular season.

shmeakone · Post #102 » by **shmeakone** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:12 pm

dockingsched wrote:
F N 11 wrote:Knicks team too deep and CLE got a taste of Deuce McBride. Grimes, IQ, and Randle hasn’t even got going yet.

You’d be fooling yourself if you expect Randle to get it going. He has too many weaknesses to expect him to succeed in a playoff setting when teams actually game plan and prepare.

He might have a good/average game here and there, but expectation should be that he’ll continue to struggle like he’s always struggled in the playoffs.

We're okay with average or good game from him - our team is deep enough to mask him at this stage.

cgf · Post #103 » by **cgf** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:19 pm

RHODEY wrote:
cgf wrote:
The KnicksFix wrote:
I mean. Their starting 5 vs. our starting 5. On paper we were better head to head. That’s what I’m referring to

I know, I'm not surprised by this series either. But it's not wrong to say that on paper they were the better team this season, because they were. They had the better regular season and that's why this series started in cleveland instead of new york.

Now that didn't guarantee that they'd beat us in a best of 7 head-to-head series, but that's a different question than who had the better year.
They had a better regular season because Josh Hart wasn't a Knick until late in the season. With him the entire season we likely have a better record.That said we still dominated the Cavs during the regular season.

It's got electrolytes.

RHODEY · Post #104 » by **RHODEY** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:24 pm

DaGawd wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
The KnicksFix wrote:
Wait, even on paper the Knicks were a better team. We owned them 3/4 games this season. It wasn’t a fluke

Exactly.

to be fair.. we owned the hawks 3/4 games that year we played them and got handled.. and yes i know we were missing mitch but still

Yeah but we have waaaay more talent than that team

Raps in 4 · Post #105 » by **Raps in 4** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:35 pm

Mavs should have let Luka go instead of Brunson.

NCHeels2008 · Post #106 » by **NCHeels2008** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:40 pm

I just have to say 4 years after the Knicks "lost out" on flat earther and Mr. Situation Chaser its nice to see the Knicks banging on the door to the second round and beating media darling and +/- runner-up Cavs. Meanwhile being coached by the "dinosaur" Thibs who was called the 24th best coach in the league. I just love this Knicks team.

DaGawd · Post #107 » by **DaGawd** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:44 pm

RHODEY wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
RHODEY wrote:Exactly.

to be fair.. we owned the hawks 3/4 games that year we played them and got handled.. and yes i know we were missing mitch but still

Yeah but we have waaaay more talent than that team

yeah just saying sometime regular season record doesn’t really matter

Kampuchea · Post #108 » by **Kampuchea** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:59 pm

Im Coming Home wrote:Its ok ya'll I got the original results, thanks to google cache.

Good looking out. Not letting these Celtics fans try and erase this win. Sit the F down!

Lunartic · Post #109 » by **Lunartic** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:05 pm

I'm a Donovan Mitchell hater since that bs 60+ point game he put up when he lane violated and got all kinds of refball.

Good job Knicks for exposing them so far, don't choke.

Wolfgang630 · Post #110 » by **Wolfgang630** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:07 pm

Cavs tried, but they’re not good enough. Donovan not playing great again.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #111 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:08 pm

A lot of yall dodged a bullet with your embarrassing takes, I was going to put together a magnum opus quoting you clowns that said we'd lose in 5.

KnicksGadfly · Post #112 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:10 pm

Zzz Bisme has a shyt job. Stop acting like you all got victimized. Sometimes the Knicks fanbase gets attacked but this is not one of them.

Wolfgang630 · Post #113 » by **Wolfgang630** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:11 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:A lot of yall dodged a bullet with your embarrassing takes, I was going to put together a magnum opus quoting you clowns that said we'd lose in 5.

I thought the series would go 7 with the Knicks pulling it out. I’m surprised anyone thought the series would be short for the Cavs.

lambchop · Post #114 » by **lambchop** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:30 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:A lot of yall dodged a bullet with your embarrassing takes, I was going to put together a magnum opus quoting you clowns that said we'd lose in 5.

I thought the series would go 7 with the Knicks pulling it out. I’m surprised anyone thought the series would be short for the Cavs.

LBJ is coming back in 2027. I expect a 2nd round appearance then.

cgf · Post #115 » by **cgf** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:36 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:Zzz Bisme has a shyt job. Stop acting like you all got victimized. Sometimes the Knicks fanbase gets attacked but this is not one of them.

Seriously. Can we not just enjoy this run?

Post #116 » by **dakomish23** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:38 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:A lot of yall dodged a bullet with your embarrassing takes, I was going to put together a magnum opus quoting you clowns that said we'd lose in 5.

I thought the series would go 7 with the Knicks pulling it out. I’m surprised anyone thought the series would be short for the Cavs.

I think ppl saw the record and just assumed since Mitchell is the best player it would be quick work.

But having watched them all year, I knew they left 5-10 wins on the table. Many many choke jobs in the mix with many many clutch wins. Weird season

thelead · Post #117 » by **thelead** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:53 pm

KnixtapeH20 wrote:
thelead wrote:Cavs need WAY more from Mobley

Mitchell Robinson says good luck

Trying to continually attack Mitchell Robinson is a bad game plan... so is taking long 2's (looking at you Donovan). They need bigs that can pull Robinson away from the paint. It'll be a different series against Embiid (if he can even play). I'm interested to see how that all plays out.

Capn'O · Post #118 » by **Capn'O** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:17 am

LEAVE BISME ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol:

In seriousness, bisme has been very supportive of the Knicks team this year. My guess is he didn't think through that changing the poll would have a backlash.

Some of y'all need to get that apology slip printed though. I was called all sorts of things for suggesting Brunson was all star caliber, that the Knicks would be in the playoff mix, and later that the Knicks would be a tough out in the playoffs. I wasn't asking, I was informing. I think you know we're good now and if any team still underestimates us they're gonna find out too. The days of cakewalking through MSG for career nights are done for awhile.

Capn'O · Post #119 » by **Capn'O** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:28 am

cgf wrote: if we ignore the first 29% of the season...

I think in this case you do. We were playing three bad players in Reddish, Fournier, and Rose (sad but true) and replaced them with Grimes, expanded IQ's role, and acquired Hart. Then iHart was playing like dog crap to start the year and now is one of our most impactful players. Then there was that long string of games where we crumbled in the 4th and gave up big leads. That was not happening as the season progressed. Sample shmample. It's a fundamentally different team and the way they were playing at the end of the season and who they beat showed it. Similar to how the Celtics came on at the end of last season.

cgf · Post #120 » by **cgf** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:32 am

Capn'O wrote:
cgf wrote: if we ignore the first 29% of the season...

I think in this case you do. We were playing three bad players in Reddish, Fournier, and Rose (sad but true) and replaced them with Grimes, expanded IQ's role, and acquired Hart. Then iHart was playing like dog crap to start the year and now is one of our most impactful players. Then there was that long string of games where we crumbled in the 4th and gave up big leads. That was not happening as the season progressed. Sample shmample. It's a fundamentally different team and the way they were playing at the end of the season and who they beat showed it. Similar to how the Celtics came on at the end of last season.

I don't disagree, I was just being a pedant about the "better season" stuff because my mind was on german football today...where my club is 2 wins out of 1st place with 5 matches left; while the two teams ahead of us are choking the lead back-n-forth, and the title is given to the team who performs best over the course of the season. So even if you finish the season a different team than you started it, all of those points still matter.

Who wins Game 5 on Wednesday?