2023 Eastern Conference | Round 1 | (4) Cleveland Cavaliers VS. (5) New York Knicks (NYK WINS 4-1)

[RHODEY]

to be fair.. we owned the hawks 3/4 games that year we played them and got handled.. and yes i know we were missing mitch but still

Yeah but we have waaaay more talent than that team

yeah just saying sometime regular season record doesn’t really matter

I hear you

[Jadoogar]

What happened to tim Duncan Jr?

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[RHODEY]

A lot of yall dodged a bullet with your embarrassing takes, I was going to put together a magnum opus quoting you clowns that said we'd lose in 5.

I thought the series would go 7 with the Knicks pulling it out. I’m surprised anyone thought the series would be short for the Cavs.

I think ppl saw the record and just assumed since Mitchell is the best player it would be quick work.

But having watched them all year, I knew they left 5-10 wins on the table. Many many choke jobs in the mix with many many clutch wins. Weird season

Mitchell puts up the most points during the regular season.That doesn't necessarily make him the best player. Imo that honor should go to Jalen Brunson.

[One Last Shot]

Jalen Brunson won 11 of his last 15 games against Donovan Mitchell. It's like a dad teaching his son that sometimes in life you will fail over and over again no matter how much you think how good you are. He should join his dad and gramps in New York this 2025.

[bronxknicksfan1]

So you meant we were the better team if we ignore the first 29% of the season.

Just like if you ignore our record before adding DRose we were better than Atlanta two years ago

I mean. Their starting 5 vs. our starting 5. On paper we were better head to head. That’s what I’m referring to

I know, I'm not surprised by this series either. But it's not wrong to say that on paper they were the better team this season, because they were. They had the better regular season and that's why this series started in cleveland instead of new york.

Now that didn't guarantee that they'd beat us in a best of 7 head-to-head series, but that's a different question than who had the better year.

Better record doesn’t always mean better team. Especially when the team wasn’t the same all year. Gotta take trades and pickups into account.

[MasterIchiro]

I was planting an orchard today but my best friend called me to let me know our Knicks won. Yankees lost.

We had said game 4 winner takes the series. No way Cavs rattle off 3 consecutive wins against us.

Yankees lost but at least Volpe is hitting better and adjusting to MLB.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I'm stunned at how offensively inept the Cavs have been in this series. The Knicks deserve a lot of credit as they've played hellacious defense.

But this is just unacceptable. You can't sign Donovan Mitchell to then end up losing to the Knicks in the first round. He was supposed to be the point of difference. He's the player that was supposed to take the Cavs to at least the second round.

They're now going to have to pull off a miracle.

The Cavs had a 109.2 ORTG against us in the regular season, their frontcourt is formidable to most teams but ours is bigger, stronger and just as athletic, and since neither of their bigs can shoot ours can just hang out near the rim on defense and blow up driving lanes. They don't have the personnel to go small either, when they try they get absolutely demolished on the glass and we attack the rim.

Their frontcourt was a key to them winning this year, against us it's been a anchor all season and when they go away from it they get beat up even worse. They've lost to us in so many different ways, Mitchell had a huge scoring night the last time we played in the regular season, he finished with 42 and they still lost by 14

I wanted this series with them, especially after they got rid of Kevin Love, if you don't have a floor spacing big Thibodeau is going to make your offense look UGLY.

[Im Coming Home]

A lot of yall dodged a bullet with your embarrassing takes, I was going to put together a magnum opus quoting you clowns that said we'd lose in 5.

Do it, just use a blank 'quote' and copy paste the message and their name into it.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

A lot of yall dodged a bullet with your embarrassing takes, I was going to put together a magnum opus quoting you clowns that said we'd lose in 5.

Do it, just use a blank 'quote' and copy paste the message and their name into it.

You can't quote posts once the thread is locked, I'd have to screen grab them all and that's too much work. Copying and pasting, then adding the quotes is a lot of work too

[WillyJakkz]

Knicks are a bad matchup for CLE. My initial take this season was any team w/ a legit scoring big like PHI MIL and now NY with Randle.

And Brunson is proving just as lethal as Mitchell in scoring and making big shots and now Barrett crawled out the gutter to score. That's what killing them (Barrett), no one thought he'd be a factor.

I thought the Cavs could win in about 6 but definitely wrong on that and maybe the entire series.

CLE matched up better with BOS with mainly perimeter guys.

[Im Coming Home]

A lot of yall dodged a bullet with your embarrassing takes, I was going to put together a magnum opus quoting you clowns that said we'd lose in 5.

Do it, just use a blank 'quote' and copy paste the message and their name into it.

You can't quote posts once the thread is locked, I'd have to screen grab them all and that's too much work. Copying and pasting, then adding the quotes is a lot of work too

Nah its super easy watch

I'm gonna do my magnum opus

See

[Riot Randolph]

Do it, just use a blank 'quote' and copy paste the message and their name into it.

You can't quote posts once the thread is locked, I'd have to screen grab them all and that's too much work. Copying and pasting, then adding the quotes is a lot of work too

Nah its super easy watch

I'm gonna do my magnum opus

See

what’s the point it’s just a bunch of delusional Cleveland fans and salty nyets fans.

[DaGawd]

LEAVE BISME ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!



In seriousness, bisme has been very supportive of the Knicks team this year. My guess is he didn't think through that changing the poll would have a backlash.



Some of y'all need to get that apology slip printed though. I was called all sorts of things for suggesting Brunson was all star caliber, that the Knicks would be in the playoff mix, and later that the Knicks would be a tough out in the playoffs. I wasn't asking, I was informing. I think you know we're good now and if any team still underestimates us they're gonna find out too. The days of cakewalking through MSG for career nights are done for awhile.

tell ‘em cap! all you nyk haters can smd!!!

[KodiakBear]

Glad the Knicks didn't fire thibbs after last year. Also tampering was worth it to get Brunson.

[babyjax13]

I'm stunned at how offensively inept the Cavs have been in this series. The Knicks deserve a lot of credit as they've played hellacious defense.

But this is just unacceptable. You can't sign Donovan Mitchell to then end up losing to the Knicks in the first round. He was supposed to be the point of difference. He's the player that was supposed to take the Cavs to at least the second round.

They're now going to have to pull off a miracle.

The Cavs had a 109.2 ORTG against us in the regular season, their frontcourt is formidable to most teams but ours is bigger, stronger and just as athletic, and since neither of their bigs can shoot ours can just hang out near the rim on defense and blow up driving lanes. They don't have the personnel to go small either, when they try they get absolutely demolished on the glass and we attack the rim.

Their frontcourt was a key to them winning this year, against us it's been a anchor all season and when they go away from it they get beat up even worse. They've lost to us in so many different ways, Mitchell had a huge scoring night the last time we played in the regular season, he finished with 42 and they still lost by 14

I wanted this series with them, especially after they got rid of Kevin Love, if you don't have a floor spacing big Thibodeau is going to make your offense look UGLY.

Really informative post! : )

[stuporman]

Until the clock hits 0s with the Knicks leading for their 4th win of the series I don't think it's over, this is not finished.

[omerome]

Until the clock hits 0s with the Knicks leading for their 4th win of the series I don't think it's over, this is not finished.

This is why I'm glad Brunson is on the team. He understands the exact thing and I'm sure he has told his teammates to not celebrate until the job is done.

The Knicks do not want to be the 5% who loses the series up 3-1.

[stuporman]

No cap Game 5 smells like the DMitch explosion game, he gets something like a 40 burger and the Cavs score the most points in a game of the series so far to win it.

I'm just curious to find out if the Knicks can then recover the defensive energy and discipline plus offensive output to end it at home in game 6 with all the pressure on them to do it or face a dramatic game 7 in Cleveland.

I'm still anticipating a 7 game series.

[Jadoogar]

I'll eat crow on the Knicks. I thought the Cavs were the much more talented team but Brunson has been the best player on the floor and Josh Hart is far away the best bench player.

[Tron Carter]

No cap Game 5 smells like the DMitch explosion game, he gets something like a 40 burger and the Cavs score the most points in a game of the series so far to win it.

I'm just curious to find out if the Knicks can then recover the defensive energy and discipline plus offensive output to end it at home in game 6 with all the pressure on them to do it or face a dramatic game 7 in Cleveland.

I'm still anticipating a 7 game series.

yeah they said that last game, and the game before, and the game before..

even if he goes off so what? we have JB who’s better than him.