Early discussion on the 2023 offseason

[Eatgreenz]

bro I am not giving up no 4 picks for Dame, what is with u guys? Haven't ya learned anything yet? If anything we should get a pick or 2 back, his contract is ridiculous and he's almost old now smh

anyways, this was the season we probably should of tanked. The draft is pretty loaded with talent and we don't have our pick next year so we probably could of got a nice pick around #8-12 or so but too late at this point. Now we're stuck with 2 picks at like 21 and 22 smh

He was at the games in BK and spends time in NY. If Portland does right by him and takes Ben, CamT with one of the picks from this year. Than yes I won't mind Dame's toxic contract in here.

You right though. Dude showing all signs of being washed up. That contract won't age well.

The fact that Bridges ain't max allows us to go after another max.

Dame is A target but not THE target for Brooklyn. I have a funny feeling Nets are looking at either one of Luka/Jaylen Brown moving forward. Bridges will be the third '"star" so to speak. They are looking for another big three in Brooklyn. The press conference all but confirmed what the Nets intentions are. I see the Nets going the Suns route of a similar combo to Booker/CP3. Dame would be the CP3 and Brown would be your Booker. I still want Udoka coaching.

I think that lamelo situation is being monitored as well, wont be suprised we here rumors with him.

[Papi_swav]

bro I am not giving up no 4 picks for Dame, what is with u guys? Haven't ya learned anything yet? If anything we should get a pick or 2 back, his contract is ridiculous and he's almost old now smh

anyways, this was the season we probably should of tanked. The draft is pretty loaded with talent and we don't have our pick next year so we probably could of got a nice pick around #8-12 or so but too late at this point. Now we're stuck with 2 picks at like 21 and 22 smh

He was at the games in BK and spends time in NY. If Portland does right by him and takes Ben, CamT with one of the picks from this year. Than yes I won't mind Dame's toxic contract in here.

You right though. Dude showing all signs of being washed up. That contract won't age well.

The fact that Bridges ain't max allows us to go after another max.

Dame is A target but not THE target for Brooklyn. I have a funny feeling Nets are looking at either one of Luka/Jaylen Brown moving forward. Bridges will be the third '"star" so to speak. They are looking for another big three in Brooklyn. The press conference all but confirmed what the Nets intentions are. I see the Nets going the Suns route of a similar combo to Booker/CP3. Dame would be the CP3 and Brown would be your Booker. I still want Udoka coaching.

Ya not wrong, I just don't want to give up too many assets for Dame but if the price is right and we get rid of Ben with it then sure. I have a feeling Jaylen Brown will sign here with us when he becomes a FA next offseason like Kyrie did lol I just have that feeling idk why.

[TheNetsFan]

He was at the games in BK and spends time in NY. If Portland does right by him and takes Ben, CamT with one of the picks from this year. Than yes I won't mind Dame's toxic contract in here.

You right though. Dude showing all signs of being washed up. That contract won't age well.

The fact that Bridges ain't max allows us to go after another max.

Dame is A target but not THE target for Brooklyn. I have a funny feeling Nets are looking at either one of Luka/Jaylen Brown moving forward. Bridges will be the third '"star" so to speak. They are looking for another big three in Brooklyn. The press conference all but confirmed what the Nets intentions are. I see the Nets going the Suns route of a similar combo to Booker/CP3. Dame would be the CP3 and Brown would be your Booker. I still want Udoka coaching.

Ya not wrong, I just don't want to give up too many assets for Dame but if the price is right and we get rid of Ben with it then sure. I have a feeling Jaylen Brown will sign here with us when he becomes a FA next offseason like Kyrie did lol I just have that feeling idk why.

I don't think we can get Dame and another star, unless we're flipping the twins in the future. Dame's contract also kills FA as an option.

If we went after Dame (say Simmons+Thomas+3 firsts), I think you look at a consolidating players for a second/third tier guy type of deal. If Harden goes to Houston and we landed Lillard, maybe Dinwiddie+DFS for Tobias is the bones of a mutually beneficial deal. Perhaps there's a way to get Siakam, but I don't think Toronto would be serious about moving him.

[Netaman]

bro I am not giving up no 4 picks for Dame, what is with u guys? Haven't ya learned anything yet? If anything we should get a pick or 2 back, his contract is ridiculous and he's almost old now smh

anyways, this was the season we probably should of tanked. The draft is pretty loaded with talent and we don't have our pick next year so we probably could of got a nice pick around #8-12 or so but too late at this point. Now we're stuck with 2 picks at like 21 and 22 smh

we'll see i have no idea how many picks he'll command but i'd take the over on 1 and willingly pay it.

what's the alternative to not paying 45m for a guy who is still a legit stud when he plays? saving 45m? paying mediocre guys who don't move the needle at all.

bridges is 27, not 22. im not saying im moving heaven and earth for lillard but if he's available at a reasonable price and wants to come here im in. a handful of far off future firsts is fine with me especially if they are also having to pay the freight to dump simmons contract (which comes with similar risks to lillard).

[JRoy]

The best case scenario for Dame is if POR buys out his contract and he comes here for free like Westbrook for LAC. Giving up significant assets at this stage of his career would be a mistake. Dame put himself in this situation, he needs to get himself out of it.

POR is not buying Lillard out, lol.

[JRoy]

bro I am not giving up no 4 picks for Dame, what is with u guys? Haven't ya learned anything yet? If anything we should get a pick or 2 back, his contract is ridiculous and he's almost old now smh

anyways, this was the season we probably should of tanked. The draft is pretty loaded with talent and we don't have our pick next year so we probably could of got a nice pick around #8-12 or so but too late at this point. Now we're stuck with 2 picks at like 21 and 22 smh

He was at the games in BK and spends time in NY. If Portland does right by him and takes Ben, CamT with one of the picks from this year. Than yes I won't mind Dame's toxic contract in here.

You right though. Dude showing all signs of being washed up. That contract won't age well.

The fact that Bridges ain't max allows us to go after another max.

Lillard just had the best year of his career, but don’t let the truth get in the way of your narrative.

[Netaman]

bro I am not giving up no 4 picks for Dame, what is with u guys? Haven't ya learned anything yet? If anything we should get a pick or 2 back, his contract is ridiculous and he's almost old now smh

anyways, this was the season we probably should of tanked. The draft is pretty loaded with talent and we don't have our pick next year so we probably could of got a nice pick around #8-12 or so but too late at this point. Now we're stuck with 2 picks at like 21 and 22 smh

He was at the games in BK and spends time in NY. If Portland does right by him and takes Ben, CamT with one of the picks from this year. Than yes I won't mind Dame's toxic contract in here.

You right though. Dude showing all signs of being washed up. That contract won't age well.

The fact that Bridges ain't max allows us to go after another max.

Dame is A target but not THE target for Brooklyn. I have a funny feeling Nets are looking at either one of Luka/Jaylen Brown moving forward. Bridges will be the third '"star" so to speak. They are looking for another big three in Brooklyn. The press conference all but confirmed what the Nets intentions are. I see the Nets going the Suns route of a similar combo to Booker/CP3. Dame would be the CP3 and Brown would be your Booker. I still want Udoka coaching.

after the kyrie experience i dont see them going with brown. if he willingly walks from tatum where together they can be legitimate contenders it will be no different than the way kyrie walked himself out of cleveland. and that's not at all the only similarity. i dont see the nets trading for another guy who needs his own personal social media apology copywriter on staff.

i brought up lillard for obvious reasons, it seems like he's possibly in play. nobody just gets their pick of other team's players, you make decisions as they become available without knowing who will become available in the future. but we know the next few FA classes mostly stink.

i honestly wouldn't be disappointed if marks shifts from a star strategy to trying to leverage assets to trade up for someone, but that would require them really liking someone in this year's draft towards the bottom of the lotto. not sure that player exists, but that type of move is the one id probably be most excited to see happen this offseason. i think cason wallace is going to be jrue #2 so even a slighter move up for him would be awesome.

[Netaman]

bro I am not giving up no 4 picks for Dame, what is with u guys? Haven't ya learned anything yet? If anything we should get a pick or 2 back, his contract is ridiculous and he's almost old now smh

anyways, this was the season we probably should of tanked. The draft is pretty loaded with talent and we don't have our pick next year so we probably could of got a nice pick around #8-12 or so but too late at this point. Now we're stuck with 2 picks at like 21 and 22 smh

He was at the games in BK and spends time in NY. If Portland does right by him and takes Ben, CamT with one of the picks from this year. Than yes I won't mind Dame's toxic contract in here.

You right though. Dude showing all signs of being washed up. That contract won't age well.

The fact that Bridges ain't max allows us to go after another max.

Lillard just had the best year of his career, but don’t let the truth get in the way of your narrative.

there's some crazy in this thread but also a lot of emotions at the end of a wicked roller coaster.

question for you - if lillard said he wanted to come to brooklyn, what do you think a fair deal is? all kd picks + cam thomas + salary match seems like the max reasonable price brooklyn would pay assuming marks is still around, and id probably guess if simmons isn't part of the salary match and it's expirings it's fewer than all the kd picks.

[JRoy]

He was at the games in BK and spends time in NY. If Portland does right by him and takes Ben, CamT with one of the picks from this year. Than yes I won't mind Dame's toxic contract in here.

You right though. Dude showing all signs of being washed up. That contract won't age well.

The fact that Bridges ain't max allows us to go after another max.

Lillard just had the best year of his career, but don’t let the truth get in the way of your narrative.

there's some crazy in this thread but also a lot of emotions at the end of a wicked roller coaster.

question for you - if lillard said he wanted to come to brooklyn, what do you think a fair deal is? all kd picks + cam thomas + salary match seems like the max reasonable price brooklyn would pay assuming marks is still around, and id probably guess if simmons isn't part of the salary match and it's expirings it's fewer than all the kd picks.

I think the FO does everything they can to send him where he wants to go. Eastern Conference seems likely, MIL maybe. If he wants BKN I’m sure there’s a way.

[GTR11]

In last three years Dame played 67 games, 29 and 58 games. Each of them years he went down with injury and was limping around for some time.

If the trade going to happen we will be amended to take on salary of 45-48-58 and 63 million dollars. If that is not a toxic contract I'm not sure what is. Dude was hurt past 3 years who is 32 yo and has lot's of milage on him.

Ben for all the crap he's taking is 26 yo with much less milage and 2 years remaining.

In no world I'm giving 2 picks let alone 3-4 picks for washed up player with bloated contract. It's asinine anyway you look at it.

[Marvin Martian]

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[Marvin Martian]

bro I am not giving up no 4 picks for Dame, what is with u guys? Haven't ya learned anything yet? If anything we should get a pick or 2 back, his contract is ridiculous and he's almost old now smh

anyways, this was the season we probably should of tanked. The draft is pretty loaded with talent and we don't have our pick next year so we probably could of got a nice pick around #8-12 or so but too late at this point. Now we're stuck with 2 picks at like 21 and 22 smh

He was at the games in BK and spends time in NY. If Portland does right by him and takes Ben, CamT with one of the picks from this year. Than yes I won't mind Dame's toxic contract in here.

You right though. Dude showing all signs of being washed up. That contract won't age well.

The fact that Bridges ain't max allows us to go after another max.

Lillard just had the best year of his career, but don’t let the truth get in the way of your narrative.

While playing less than 60 games. I think the Nets have already learned their lesson with KD about building around an aging player that is showing no signs of staying healthy. But at least the Nets didn't give up any assets to get KD.

Can't imagine giving up assets for an inferior player.

The only scenario that makes sense for everyone is a buyout. A trade involving significant assets only benefits POR, not the other team.

[GTR11]

Dame is A target but not THE target for Brooklyn. I have a funny feeling Nets are looking at either one of Luka/Jaylen Brown moving forward. Bridges will be the third '"star" so to speak. They are looking for another big three in Brooklyn. The press conference all but confirmed what the Nets intentions are. I see the Nets going the Suns route of a similar combo to Booker/CP3. Dame would be the CP3 and Brown would be your Booker. I still want Udoka coaching.

Ya not wrong, I just don't want to give up too many assets for Dame but if the price is right and we get rid of Ben with it then sure. I have a feeling Jaylen Brown will sign here with us when he becomes a FA next offseason like Kyrie did lol I just have that feeling idk why.

I don't think we can get Dame and another star, unless we're flipping the twins in the future. Dame's contract also kills FA as an option.

If we went after Dame (say Simmons+Thomas+3 firsts), I think you look at a consolidating players for a second/third tier guy type of deal. If Harden goes to Houston and we landed Lillard, maybe Dinwiddie+DFS for Tobias is the bones of a mutually beneficial deal. Perhaps there's a way to get Siakam, but I don't think Toronto would be serious about moving him.

We can retain CamJ if we trade Ben, Joe and Din. It's just we will be left with Dame ( alfa ), Bridges (2ND wheel), CamJ (Third wheel) and Nic as our core to go.

This dumb **** called me a loser when I supported MDB saying we should tank for a lotto pick. Retar*** fuc* never learned shi* in his life. You don't sacrifice shi* to win battle you going to lose. YOU ANTICIPATE AND WIN WAR!!! This pick would've been a gold mine moving things around the way we needed bone head fuc*.

God damn I'm losing my shi* here right now

[GTR11]

Oh don't get me started with Seth Curry and his well being. Girl Rivers or Curry whatever her last name could've done well anywhere in a US with the money she has.

5 th Ave stores can be visited during off-season.

[TheNetsFan]

He was at the games in BK and spends time in NY. If Portland does right by him and takes Ben, CamT with one of the picks from this year. Than yes I won't mind Dame's toxic contract in here.

You right though. Dude showing all signs of being washed up. That contract won't age well.

The fact that Bridges ain't max allows us to go after another max.

Lillard just had the best year of his career, but don’t let the truth get in the way of your narrative.

there's some crazy in this thread but also a lot of emotions at the end of a wicked roller coaster.

question for you - if lillard said he wanted to come to brooklyn, what do you think a fair deal is? all kd picks + cam thomas + salary match seems like the max reasonable price brooklyn would pay assuming marks is still around, and id probably guess if simmons isn't part of the salary match and it's expirings it's fewer than all the kd picks.

As the executive alluded to, trading Simmons would likely cost Brooklyn to add additional picks since he’s owed a combined $78.2 million over the next two seasons, and his value is as low as ever.

“I can see the Nets going for Dame, but he’s older, and that contract is so high,” another NBA executive told HoopsHype. “He could be worth a couple of firsts and a good young player.”

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nets-intel-mikal-bridges-cam-johnson-trade-talks-free-agency-damian-lillard/

I'd go Thomas and 3 firsts as the main value. Simmons or Dinwiddie+Harris as the filler.

[GTR11]

Lillard just had the best year of his career, but don’t let the truth get in the way of your narrative.

there's some crazy in this thread but also a lot of emotions at the end of a wicked roller coaster.

question for you - if lillard said he wanted to come to brooklyn, what do you think a fair deal is? all kd picks + cam thomas + salary match seems like the max reasonable price brooklyn would pay assuming marks is still around, and id probably guess if simmons isn't part of the salary match and it's expirings it's fewer than all the kd picks.

As the executive alluded to, trading Simmons would likely cost Brooklyn to add additional picks since he’s owed a combined $78.2 million over the next two seasons, and his value is as low as ever.

“I can see the Nets going for Dame, but he’s older, and that contract is so high,” another NBA executive told HoopsHype. “He could be worth a couple of firsts and a good young player.”

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nets-intel-mikal-bridges-cam-johnson-trade-talks-free-agency-damian-lillard/

I'd go Thomas and 3 firsts as the main value. Simmons or Dinwiddie+Harris as the filler.

I'll quit like I did on Boys for good

Player fan ain't that bad thing to be.

[Netaman]

As the executive alluded to, trading Simmons would likely cost Brooklyn to add additional picks since he’s owed a combined $78.2 million over the next two seasons, and his value is as low as ever.

“I can see the Nets going for Dame, but he’s older, and that contract is so high,” another NBA executive told HoopsHype. “He could be worth a couple of firsts and a good young player.”

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nets-intel-mikal-bridges-cam-johnson-trade-talks-free-agency-damian-lillard/

I'd go Thomas and 3 firsts as the main value. Simmons or Dinwiddie+Harris as the filler.

that's what i would imagine as well. donovan mitchell was 3 frp's, pick swaps, and then obviously markkanen and sexton.

2 or 3 frps, thomas, and filler is the price that's worth paying.

it's hard for me to figure out what happens with simmons as filler. if you were setting a bet on games played over the next 2 years him vs lillard, i think it would be even odds. i still think there's hope for him so as filler i think he's a good gamble but like the exec mentioned trading him anywhere else would cost the nets a pick at this point so idk.

if they prefer dinwiddie + harris as the filler id do that, especially if it lowers the price of the deal by 1 pick.

[Riconet]

Here's a suggestion: sign Draymond Green this summer as a UFA. For all the talk about Dame, the Nets' primary deficiencies are size, interior D and toughness. That's Draymond to a T. And I gotta think Draymond would like the idea of coming to Brooklyn and getting the Nets farther than KD (who lost his last 6 playoff games here) was able to.

The Nets would need to create cap space, but I can see them unloading Harris this summer and possibly O'Neal or DFS to do so. And keeping Cam J, who will probably cost around $20MM per year, is far from a lock.

I don't see Marks taking on Dame's contract or giving up a ton of assets to get Dame. (I also don't think Jaylen Brown has any interest in joining the Nets, as I think he foolishly thinks the Nets mistreated Kyrie.) I think Marks is going to hold onto those picks until a younger star who fits the Nets' needs comes onto the market.

[Netaman]

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[CalamityX12]

I dont believe in any Dame rumors... it doesn't make sense. We don't have pieces to sell POR on, unless their selling real low.

Say there is something, POR would be HIGH AF to take on Ben. If no Ben, would deplete the roster immensely in terms of bodies no? and more picks, picks we just got back for an oft injured older player who's in the win now stage of his fine career.

We ain in any win now setup. This roster is a bunch of punks with low level IQ, zero confidence led by a coach who's really not HC material, outdated dumbass system and fails to bring the best out of anyone.

Say ignore that, we get Dame along with Bridges and what else? no cap? no actual competitive bodies left? no picks?...
nah, we know this story and how it ends.