Playoffs!?

[Stanford]

Opposing fans are really coming here to see our thoughts on Jimmy

It's really pathetic lol.

They also think Embiid sucks so I'm not sure what they think Butler could do to help. It's not like he's ever won a championship.

[Sixteen]

Opposing fans are really coming here to see our thoughts on Jimmy

It's really pathetic lol.

They also think Embiid sucks so I'm not sure what they think Butler could do to help. It's not like he's ever won a championship.

Yeah but...bubble finals

[Stanford]

Bucks win in 7 btw

[Sixteen]

Bucks win in 7 btw

I was just going to post that. Team is just far more talented than the Heat. That is, unless Butler averages 50 ppg for rest of series, which is highly unlikely

[Jay555]

Agreed it's a 7 game series.

Bucks win G5 easy
G6 will be do or die for the Heat, if not,
Bucks win G7

Heat just need to hit their 3's for one game of the remaining three.

Heat vs Knicks semi final.

Whoever wins the 76er/Celtics series will go on to the final.

[76ciology]

Man we needed the Heat with that energy against the Celtics , why did they lose to Hawks?

Maybe they’re dodging us

[FlyingArrow]

It stinks that the two teams most likely to win the championship have to meet in the 2nd round.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2023-nba-predictions/

[76ciology]

All that defense for Jimmy to drop 56?
Offense is OP.

Bucks should drop their past beliefs and add more offense to their team.

[Sixteen]

LeBron should have came here. Now that's a real miss because that guy actually won a championship

[M2J]

The way Jimmy can get to the basket and relentlessly attack is unreal. Even the 3 is falling, he's unstoppable. When he's aggressive

[phillynative]

No he wasn't. He played Kawhi to a standstill in 2019.

No he did not. I don't know what series you was watching, kawhi was baking Jimmy

Nah, you guys easily win if Embiid shows up in that series.

Embiid struggled offensively but the spacing was terrible for him.

[phillynative]

Man we needed the Heat with that energy against the Celtics , why did they lose to Hawks?

Maybe they’re dodging us

They were clearly dodging the celtics.

[M2J]

If Miami is able to take advantage of the Giannis injury and move on.... Yet another year everything lines up for Philly if Joel can stay healthy and they can move past the 2nd round. Philly has to just want it more than Boston.

[76ciology]

Its funny how Bill Simmons in his podcast said that he’s confident Celts will beat Sixers because Nets has been effective in stopping Embiid (he used his points per game or FGA as bench mark) and he thinks Celts have better guys who can make it harder for him to score. Sixers scores like 120 ORtg when Biid was on the court and was scoring atleast 1.2ppp on those doubles. Seems like he just looked at the boxscore to end up with that assumption.

[phillynative]

The way Jimmy can get to the basket and relentlessly attack is unreal. Even the 3 is falling, he's unstoppable. When he's aggressive

People forget how big and strong jimmy is. A legit 6'8 230 and retained most of his athleticim(solid first step and quick leaper) due to the work he puts in. Just as crafty around the rim as anyone.

[76ciology]

The way Jimmy can get to the basket and relentlessly attack is unreal. Even the 3 is falling, he's unstoppable. When he's aggressive

People forget how big and strong jimmy is. A legit 6'8 230 and retained most of his athleticim(solid first step and quick leaper) due to the work he puts in. Just as crafty around the rim as anyone.

Actually he’s 6’5” barefoot. But he’s the best in creating space and the best in pacing.

And I dont know what the right basketball term to describe this OP move of his where he will drive.. then pivots into a turn around jumper or an up and under lay-up. Luka and Brunson are also great with it. For me thats one of the most unstoppable moves in basketball now.

[Tony Franciosa]

Jimmy's going to be one of the worst one's that got away/what ifs in franchise history.

[Arsenal]

Letting Jimmy go was a criminal act.

[FlyingArrow]

Jimmy's going to be one of the worst one's that got away/what ifs in franchise history.

What an absolute disaster of an offseason that was:
* Letting Jimmy go
* Letting JJ go
* Signing Tobias for way too much
* Signing Al Horford

Then again, in terms of what-if... what an absolute disaster of a drafting run we had. What if for 10 years we had always taken the guy IMMEDIATELY AFTER the one we actually took, including draft-day trades.

2013:
Instead of a draft-day trade for Nerlens Noel, trade for Ben McLemore
Instead of MCW, we draft Steven Adams

2014:
Instead of Embiid, we draft Aaron Gordon (the biggest downgrade in this exercise)
Instead of a draft-day trade for Dario Saric, trade for Zach LaVine
Instead of KJ McDaniels, Joe Harris
Instead of Jerami Grant, Glenn Robinson III (downgrade here)

2015:
Instead of J. Okafor, Kristaps Porzingis

2016:
Instead of Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram
Instead of TLC, Brice Johnson
Instead of Korkmaz, Pascal Siakam

2017:
Instead of Fultz, Lonzo Ball

2018:
Instead of trading for Zhaire Smith, trade for Donte DiVincenzo (or better yet... don't trade Mikal Bridges away... or even better, take the guy immediately after Mikal Bridges: SGA. But for this exercise, I'll be consistent and assume we get DiVincenzo.)
Instead of Shamet, draft Robert Williams

2019:
Instead of trading for Matisse Thybulle, trade for Brandon Clarke

2020:
Instead of Maxey, Zeke Nnaji
Instead of Isaiah Joe, Skylar Mays
Instead of Paul Reed, Jalen Harris
(We had a good draft for once! These are all downgrades.)

2021:
Instead of Jaden Springer, draft Day'ron Sharpe

2022:
No picks.



End result:
C: Kristaps Porzingis, Steven Adams, Robert Williams
PF: Pascal Siakam, Brandon Clarke
SF: Brandon Ingram, Aaron Gordon
SG: Zach Lavine, Joe Harris, Donte DiVincenzo
PG: Lonzo Ball

Every team can ask, "What if we just drafted player X who slipped to late and ended up being awesome?" But in this exercise, I literally just took the NEXT player for all of our draft picks, including draft-day trades. We lose Embiid, but look what we wound up with. Four starters with all-star appearances. Two backup centers who are each starting for playoff teams. A backup PF who somehow leads his entire draft class in Win Shares. Both halves of the greatest dunk contest showdown ever. A 3pt sniper off the bench in Harris, and a decent starting PG.

I know it's not realistic... getting better players would've led to worse draft positions in later drafts. Plus, we couldn't afford to pay everyone. Plus, there would be other transactions... in particular we would've traded for or signed another PG.

With all that, since there's no top-line star in this hypothetical draft, our actual draft record might be better than the hypothetical one - simply because we drafted Embiid. Other than Embiid, look at how bad our track record is. By literally taking the next guy every time, we get a worse player 5 times, but get a notable upgrade 10 times. (The others are lateral moves or too early to tell, including several that I didn't bother listing where neither the original player nor the one after him amounted to much.)

[GoSixersBro]

Jimmy's going to be one of the worst one's that got away/what ifs in franchise history.

What an absolute disaster of an offseason that was:
* Letting Jimmy go
* Letting JJ go
* Signing Tobias for way too much
* Signing Al Horford

Then again, in terms of what-if... what an absolute disaster of a drafting run we had. What if for 10 years we had always taken the guy IMMEDIATELY AFTER the one we actually took, including draft-day trades.

2013:
Instead of a draft-day trade for Nerlens Noel, trade for Ben McLemore
Instead of MCW, we draft Steven Adams

2014:
Instead of Embiid, we draft Aaron Gordon (the biggest downgrade in this exercise)
Instead of a draft-day trade for Dario Saric, trade for Zach LaVine
Instead of KJ McDaniels, Joe Harris
Instead of Jerami Grant, Glenn Robinson III (downgrade here)

2015:
Instead of J. Okafor, Kristaps Porzingis

2016:
Instead of Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram
Instead of TLC, Brice Johnson
Instead of Korkmaz, Pascal Siakam

2017:
Instead of Fultz, Lonzo Ball

2018:
Instead of trading for Zhaire Smith, trade for Donte DiVincenzo (or better yet... don't trade Mikal Bridges away... or even better, take the guy immediately after Mikal Bridges: SGA. But for this exercise, I'll be consistent and assume we get DiVincenzo.)
Instead of Shamet, draft Robert Williams

2019:
Instead of trading for Matisse Thybulle, trade for Brandon Clarke

2020:
Instead of Maxey, Zeke Nnaji
Instead of Isaiah Joe, Skylar Mays
Instead of Paul Reed, Jalen Harris
(We had a good draft for once! These are all downgrades.)

2021:
Instead of Jaden Springer, draft Day'ron Sharpe

2022:
No picks.



End result:
C: Kristaps Porzingis, Steven Adams, Robert Williams
PF: Pascal Siakam, Brandon Clarke
SF: Brandon Ingram, Aaron Gordon
SG: Zach Lavine, Joe Harris, Donte DiVincenzo
PG: Lonzo Ball

Every team can ask, "What if we just drafted player X who slipped to late and ended up being awesome?" But in this exercise, I literally just took the NEXT player for all of our draft picks, including draft-day trades. We lose Embiid, but look what we wound up with. Four starters with all-star appearances. Two backup centers who are each starting for playoff teams. A backup PF who somehow leads his entire draft class in Win Shares. Both halves of the greatest dunk contest showdown ever. A 3pt sniper off the bench in Harris, and a decent starting PG.

I know it's not realistic... getting better players would've led to worse draft positions in later drafts. Plus, we couldn't afford to pay everyone. Plus, there would be other transactions... in particular we would've traded for or signed another PG.

With all that, since there's no top-line star in this hypothetical draft, our actual draft record might be better than the hypothetical one - simply because we drafted Embiid. Other than Embiid, look at how bad our track record is. By literally taking the next guy every time, we get a worse player 5 times, but get a notable upgrade 10 times. (The others are lateral moves or too early to tell, including several that I didn't bother listing where neither the original player nor the one after him amounted to much.)

Thinking this way years down the road is pure madness, but I do understand the point of your post and wholeheartedly agree the FO was brutal during nearly every draft.