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Re: Sean Marks and Jacque Vaughn should be fired. 

Post#41 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:34 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:Cant even speak for talent, cuz obviously we're on the short end there. Fine, confirmed & acknowledged. But heart?

Look at the Cavs/Wolves(losing effort), Knicks/Kings(impressive and contending like).... these guys, whom I just happened to watch more of vs others, the level of effort and play is on another planet compared to us.

That's where I can't accept it... lose in a battle, fine we tried... lose like this? again! there is something apparently wrong that extends beyond the players on the court. The staff and GM need to be addressed. Their body of work is horse sh*t after the KD/Ky Free Agency...

IIRC the team played surprisingly well in the games KD and/or KI were out, with plenty of hustle and Brooklyn Grit (tm). Which is why I had decent hopes for the Nets with the talent infusion at the deadline. I thought for sure we'd be playing better than this by the postseason, given the reps.

In retrospect, I think I would have been okay using CamT as lead guard, and taking those two #1's for DFS.

Btw, I get people frustratedly / sarcastically saying "so you're satisfied with more of the same then, huh?" but you know very well that's ignoring reality. The reality is that Marks' hands were tied in many ways during the KD/KI disaster, and that period was pretty much the furthest thing from the normal rebuild arc we were on track for before those jokers signed on.

The fact is, Marks' biggest skills are probably finding talent and generating draft picks, and he had very little opportunity to use those skills during 3-4 years of ring-chasing.

You can't tie a conjurer's hands for 3-4 years, then complain that he didn't perform any good tricks during that time. It makes no sense.

Had JV not been given an unprovocative extension after a less than ideal results leading into the all star break, fans and myself included knew that the coaching corner isn't permananet and can be remedy when the right person becomes available. Then BAM, extenstion, followed by horrible game after game... all the way through... now we're sitting here like, wtf is there to look forward to?

Vaugh did not help himself either IMO. The in/out/forsaken time of Cam Thomas, yea he has flaws but gotta work through them and I never dipped into that hype of his either but come on, every game we are starving for pts and he doesn't get his shot? But the Harris and Curry over dependence really served the team for the best right coach?

SUmner? thought we had something nice from him... he went from energy and hustle with speed to bench warmer... no reason publicly known to me or the fanbase.

Yuta? tall stretch big who was once in the top of the league for 3 pt shooting? While flawed but why not developed? He looked good before with people knowing what to do but after recovering from injury, never had a chance.

Sharpe? lack of bigs playing and supporting Claxton. We turned Royce into an undersized C and that really helped us out didn't it?

Rotation became, Din, Bridges, CAMJ, DFS, Clax and Royce.... nothing more nothing else... no further expansion to play anyone...

it's a joke to me.
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Re: Sean Marks and Jacque Vaughn should be fired. 

Post#42 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:24 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
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CalamityX12 wrote:Cant even speak for talent, cuz obviously we're on the short end there. Fine, confirmed & acknowledged. But heart?

Look at the Cavs/Wolves(losing effort), Knicks/Kings(impressive and contending like).... these guys, whom I just happened to watch more of vs others, the level of effort and play is on another planet compared to us.

That's where I can't accept it... lose in a battle, fine we tried... lose like this? again! there is something apparently wrong that extends beyond the players on the court. The staff and GM need to be addressed. Their body of work is horse sh*t after the KD/Ky Free Agency...

Its either Vaughn or Marks(Nash was too) who is leading the charge in NOT playing a **** Big. It's been like this since Kenny days and guess who are the two holdovers since? The direction of this franchise isn't in a good place and it's not being helped.

When we struggle next year, what's the quick fix? fire JV? Can they even do that after extending him?

Really gonna be bad times around here for a while... its just what it is...


The fish rots from the head on downwards.

Trading 4 picks, 3 swaps for James Harden and then having to trade Harden for a debilitated Ben Simmons, Drummond (who left for nothing) and Seth (who will leave for nothing) + a late first...if Billy King did this, the same people white knighting for Sean Marks would be calling for his head.

And that's just one mistake.

The trade for Harden was indeed a high cost... however, had his hamstring held up(sh*t he did play thru it) and Ky stayed healthy, there could've been a Finals appearance legit and maybe win.

But we lost that trade due to the clown show that ensued.

Now trading to Harden to PHI almost looked ok until we see Ben more damaged than anyone anticipated(yet this trade went thru) that's careless and fireable on that alone. It was a bad move.... bet money we won't see Ben playing next season either but he collecting his pay! lol

i knew it was all bad juju when we traded our pick for Shamet.... **** awful.


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Post#43 » by Netaman » Mon Apr 24, 2023 6:38 pm

i remember most of us being pretty clear eyed at the kyrie risk coming off the disastrous exit in boston.

i remember a pretty decent chunk of us hoping there was a way to get kd without him and keeping dlo.

i also think we're now a little myopic about how much risk there was with kd himself coming off the achilles. it was by no means a lock that he'd come back and play like the mvp he did for basically his whole time here (except the boston series).

the flaws that the boston series exposed, and now the clippers series, could have been issues the entire time.

they signed 2 vets that came with major red flags, who also forced them to overpay their friend deandre jordan who was more cooked than joe harris is now.

it was all a bargain with the devil and it almost worked. and when it didnt we cashed in the chips to fight another day a lot better off than when we started.

comparing the last 7 years to billy king is just lol bad hyperbole. he made a bargain with the devil and it was never all that close to working. deron williams was damaged goods and he just kept tripling down with absurd overpay after absurd overpay. he left the franchise is shambles. today they aren't in shambles at all, and may be on the cusp of re-opening another window with Lillard, who may have some similar durability questions as KD but is 2 years younger and wont have to come along with a destroyer of worlds and a cooked big man.
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Re: Sean Marks and Jacque Vaughn should be fired. 

Post#44 » by 3pt_chucker » Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:04 pm

Netaman wrote:i remember most of us being pretty clear eyed at the kyrie risk coming off the disastrous exit in boston.

i remember a pretty decent chunk of us hoping there was a way to get kd without him and keeping dlo.

i also think we're now a little myopic about how much risk there was with kd himself coming off the achilles. it was by no means a lock that he'd come back and play like the mvp he did for basically his whole time here (except the boston series).

the flaws that the boston series exposed, and now the clippers series, could have been issues the entire time.

they signed 2 vets that came with major red flags, who also forced them to overpay their friend deandre jordan who was more cooked than joe harris is now.

it was all a bargain with the devil and it almost worked. and when it didnt we cashed in the chips to fight another day a lot better off than when we started.

comparing the last 7 years to billy king is just lol bad hyperbole. he made a bargain with the devil and it was never all that close to working. deron williams was damaged goods and he just kept tripling down with absurd overpay after absurd overpay. he left the franchise is shambles. today they aren't in shambles at all, and may be on the cusp of re-opening another window with Lillard, who may have some similar durability questions as KD but is 2 years younger and wont have to come along with a destroyer of worlds and a cooked big man.


Agree with pretty much everything here.

Only thing I want to comment on is I think MDB's Billy King comparison kind of shows that in terms of success (playoff wins is definitely a major metric), Sean Marks isn't exactly blowing Billy King away, which is a bit of a red flag, concidering King was an all time worst GM.

Obviously, Marks has made by far better moves (in real time and hindsight) than King and even his worse move, in my opinion anyway (Simmons trade), is light years better than the PP/KG trade, that doesn't mean he's been doing an excellent job the last couple years.

To me, when I look at Marks ratio for good:bad:neutral moves, it's alarmingly stacked on the bad side and really removes my belief he can steer this franchise in the right direction.
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Post#45 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:20 pm

Netaman wrote:i remember most of us being pretty clear eyed at the kyrie risk coming off the disastrous exit in boston.

i remember a pretty decent chunk of us hoping there was a way to get kd without him and keeping dlo.

i also think we're now a little myopic about how much risk there was with kd himself coming off the achilles. it was by no means a lock that he'd come back and play like the mvp he did for basically his whole time here (except the boston series).

the flaws that the boston series exposed, and now the clippers series, could have been issues the entire time.

they signed 2 vets that came with major red flags, who also forced them to overpay their friend deandre jordan who was more cooked than joe harris is now.

it was all a bargain with the devil and it almost worked. and when it didnt we cashed in the chips to fight another day a lot better off than when we started.

comparing the last 7 years to billy king is just lol bad hyperbole. he made a bargain with the devil and it was never all that close to working. deron williams was damaged goods and he just kept tripling down with absurd overpay after absurd overpay. he left the franchise is shambles. today they aren't in shambles at all, and may be on the cusp of re-opening another window with Lillard, who may have some similar durability questions as KD but is 2 years younger and wont have to come along with a destroyer of worlds and a cooked big man.


lol my man you call it hyperbole? Marks has overseen a team that has been swept out of the 1st round playoffs three times and 1 series win versus an injured Celtics team. That's not good.

Billy King: 1st round loss, 2nd round loss, 1st round loss.

Not much difference here other than the fact that King's teams never got swept :lol: mediocrity is medocrity.

I think ppl are coping and clinging to Marks' first few seasons when in reality he's been terrible at roster construction and got hosed by Houston and Philadelphia in back to back trades.
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Post#46 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:23 pm

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Netaman wrote:i remember most of us being pretty clear eyed at the kyrie risk coming off the disastrous exit in boston.

i remember a pretty decent chunk of us hoping there was a way to get kd without him and keeping dlo.

i also think we're now a little myopic about how much risk there was with kd himself coming off the achilles. it was by no means a lock that he'd come back and play like the mvp he did for basically his whole time here (except the boston series).

the flaws that the boston series exposed, and now the clippers series, could have been issues the entire time.

they signed 2 vets that came with major red flags, who also forced them to overpay their friend deandre jordan who was more cooked than joe harris is now.

it was all a bargain with the devil and it almost worked. and when it didnt we cashed in the chips to fight another day a lot better off than when we started.

comparing the last 7 years to billy king is just lol bad hyperbole. he made a bargain with the devil and it was never all that close to working. deron williams was damaged goods and he just kept tripling down with absurd overpay after absurd overpay. he left the franchise is shambles. today they aren't in shambles at all, and may be on the cusp of re-opening another window with Lillard, who may have some similar durability questions as KD but is 2 years younger and wont have to come along with a destroyer of worlds and a cooked big man.


Agree with pretty much everything here.

Only thing I want to comment on is I think MDB's Billy King comparison kind of shows that in terms of success (playoff wins is definitely a major metric), Sean Marks isn't exactly blowing Billy King away, which is a bit of a red flag, concidering King was an all time worst GM.

Obviously, Marks has made by far better moves (in real time and hindsight) than King and even his worse move, in my opinion anyway (Simmons trade), is light years better than the PP/KG trade, that doesn't mean he's been doing an excellent job the last couple years.

To me, when I look at Marks ratio for good:bad:neutral moves, it's alarmingly stacked on the bad side and really removes my belief he can steer this franchise in the right direction.



Don't forget some of those offer sheets Marks handed out to guys who aren't even in the league anymore.

The Simmons trade, basically trading Harden for even less than what we paid to obtain him, and the hiring of Steve Nash would have gotten any other GM sacked.
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Post#47 » by Shark » Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:50 pm

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3pt_chucker wrote:
Netaman wrote:i remember most of us being pretty clear eyed at the kyrie risk coming off the disastrous exit in boston.

i remember a pretty decent chunk of us hoping there was a way to get kd without him and keeping dlo.

i also think we're now a little myopic about how much risk there was with kd himself coming off the achilles. it was by no means a lock that he'd come back and play like the mvp he did for basically his whole time here (except the boston series).

the flaws that the boston series exposed, and now the clippers series, could have been issues the entire time.

they signed 2 vets that came with major red flags, who also forced them to overpay their friend deandre jordan who was more cooked than joe harris is now.

it was all a bargain with the devil and it almost worked. and when it didnt we cashed in the chips to fight another day a lot better off than when we started.

comparing the last 7 years to billy king is just lol bad hyperbole. he made a bargain with the devil and it was never all that close to working. deron williams was damaged goods and he just kept tripling down with absurd overpay after absurd overpay. he left the franchise is shambles. today they aren't in shambles at all, and may be on the cusp of re-opening another window with Lillard, who may have some similar durability questions as KD but is 2 years younger and wont have to come along with a destroyer of worlds and a cooked big man.


Agree with pretty much everything here.

Only thing I want to comment on is I think MDB's Billy King comparison kind of shows that in terms of success (playoff wins is definitely a major metric), Sean Marks isn't exactly blowing Billy King away, which is a bit of a red flag, concidering King was an all time worst GM.

Obviously, Marks has made by far better moves (in real time and hindsight) than King and even his worse move, in my opinion anyway (Simmons trade), is light years better than the PP/KG trade, that doesn't mean he's been doing an excellent job the last couple years.

To me, when I look at Marks ratio for good:bad:neutral moves, it's alarmingly stacked on the bad side and really removes my belief he can steer this franchise in the right direction.



Don't forget some of those offer sheets Marks handed out to guys who aren't even in the league anymore.

The Simmons trade, basically trading Harden for even less than what we paid to obtain him, and the hiring of Steve Nash would have gotten any other GM sacked.

Also keeping Nash for as long as he did for a team with a small championship window compounded the initial mistake of hiring him in the first place.
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Post#48 » by Netaman » Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:13 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Netaman wrote:i remember most of us being pretty clear eyed at the kyrie risk coming off the disastrous exit in boston.

i remember a pretty decent chunk of us hoping there was a way to get kd without him and keeping dlo.

i also think we're now a little myopic about how much risk there was with kd himself coming off the achilles. it was by no means a lock that he'd come back and play like the mvp he did for basically his whole time here (except the boston series).

the flaws that the boston series exposed, and now the clippers series, could have been issues the entire time.

they signed 2 vets that came with major red flags, who also forced them to overpay their friend deandre jordan who was more cooked than joe harris is now.

it was all a bargain with the devil and it almost worked. and when it didnt we cashed in the chips to fight another day a lot better off than when we started.

comparing the last 7 years to billy king is just lol bad hyperbole. he made a bargain with the devil and it was never all that close to working. deron williams was damaged goods and he just kept tripling down with absurd overpay after absurd overpay. he left the franchise is shambles. today they aren't in shambles at all, and may be on the cusp of re-opening another window with Lillard, who may have some similar durability questions as KD but is 2 years younger and wont have to come along with a destroyer of worlds and a cooked big man.


lol my man you call it hyperbole? Marks has overseen a team that has been swept out of the 1st round playoffs three times and 1 series win versus an injured Celtics team. That's not good.

Billy King: 1st round loss, 2nd round loss, 1st round loss.

Not much difference here other than the fact that King's teams never got swept :lol: mediocrity is medocrity.

I think ppl are coping and clinging to Marks' first few seasons when in reality he's been terrible at roster construction and got hosed by Houston and Philadelphia in back to back trades.


what was marks' team doing to 2021 nba champion milwaukee before kyrie rolled an ankle AND harden popped a hammy? was that mediocre?

which other team won a championship with 2 of their 3 best players hurt?
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Post#49 » by Eatgreenz » Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:48 am

If Marks was to be fired I wouldnt be mad but to say his a terrible gm is wrong. To bring up billy king whose name should be blacklisted is insane. He was a one man team destroyer and other team builder. Marks worse moves dont even compare to what billy king was able to do. I have respect for Marks ability to clean up Kings mess.
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Post#50 » by Eatgreenz » Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:49 am

Netaman wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Netaman wrote:i remember most of us being pretty clear eyed at the kyrie risk coming off the disastrous exit in boston.

i remember a pretty decent chunk of us hoping there was a way to get kd without him and keeping dlo.

i also think we're now a little myopic about how much risk there was with kd himself coming off the achilles. it was by no means a lock that he'd come back and play like the mvp he did for basically his whole time here (except the boston series).

the flaws that the boston series exposed, and now the clippers series, could have been issues the entire time.

they signed 2 vets that came with major red flags, who also forced them to overpay their friend deandre jordan who was more cooked than joe harris is now.

it was all a bargain with the devil and it almost worked. and when it didnt we cashed in the chips to fight another day a lot better off than when we started.

comparing the last 7 years to billy king is just lol bad hyperbole. he made a bargain with the devil and it was never all that close to working. deron williams was damaged goods and he just kept tripling down with absurd overpay after absurd overpay. he left the franchise is shambles. today they aren't in shambles at all, and may be on the cusp of re-opening another window with Lillard, who may have some similar durability questions as KD but is 2 years younger and wont have to come along with a destroyer of worlds and a cooked big man.


lol my man you call it hyperbole? Marks has overseen a team that has been swept out of the 1st round playoffs three times and 1 series win versus an injured Celtics team. That's not good.

Billy King: 1st round loss, 2nd round loss, 1st round loss.

Not much difference here other than the fact that King's teams never got swept :lol: mediocrity is medocrity.

I think ppl are coping and clinging to Marks' first few seasons when in reality he's been terrible at roster construction and got hosed by Houston and Philadelphia in back to back trades.


what was marks' team doing to 2021 nba champion milwaukee before kyrie rolled an ankle AND harden popped a hammy? was that mediocre?

which other team won a championship with 2 of their 3 best players hurt?

Marks was suppose to be the first GM in history to lace up sneakers and play with the roster he constructed to take them over the hump injuries dont matter :lol:
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Post#51 » by 3pt_chucker » Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:53 am

Netaman wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Netaman wrote:i remember most of us being pretty clear eyed at the kyrie risk coming off the disastrous exit in boston.

i remember a pretty decent chunk of us hoping there was a way to get kd without him and keeping dlo.

i also think we're now a little myopic about how much risk there was with kd himself coming off the achilles. it was by no means a lock that he'd come back and play like the mvp he did for basically his whole time here (except the boston series).

the flaws that the boston series exposed, and now the clippers series, could have been issues the entire time.

they signed 2 vets that came with major red flags, who also forced them to overpay their friend deandre jordan who was more cooked than joe harris is now.

it was all a bargain with the devil and it almost worked. and when it didnt we cashed in the chips to fight another day a lot better off than when we started.

comparing the last 7 years to billy king is just lol bad hyperbole. he made a bargain with the devil and it was never all that close to working. deron williams was damaged goods and he just kept tripling down with absurd overpay after absurd overpay. he left the franchise is shambles. today they aren't in shambles at all, and may be on the cusp of re-opening another window with Lillard, who may have some similar durability questions as KD but is 2 years younger and wont have to come along with a destroyer of worlds and a cooked big man.


lol my man you call it hyperbole? Marks has overseen a team that has been swept out of the 1st round playoffs three times and 1 series win versus an injured Celtics team. That's not good.

Billy King: 1st round loss, 2nd round loss, 1st round loss.

Not much difference here other than the fact that King's teams never got swept :lol: mediocrity is medocrity.

I think ppl are coping and clinging to Marks' first few seasons when in reality he's been terrible at roster construction and got hosed by Houston and Philadelphia in back to back trades.


what was marks' team doing to 2021 nba champion milwaukee before kyrie rolled an ankle AND harden popped a hammy? was that mediocre?

which other team won a championship with 2 of their 3 best players hurt?


Hang the banner for a 2nd round exit and 2 sweeps. Hooray!!
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Post#52 » by Netaman » Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:07 am

3pt_chucker wrote:
Netaman wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
lol my man you call it hyperbole? Marks has overseen a team that has been swept out of the 1st round playoffs three times and 1 series win versus an injured Celtics team. That's not good.

Billy King: 1st round loss, 2nd round loss, 1st round loss.

Not much difference here other than the fact that King's teams never got swept :lol: mediocrity is medocrity.

I think ppl are coping and clinging to Marks' first few seasons when in reality he's been terrible at roster construction and got hosed by Houston and Philadelphia in back to back trades.


what was marks' team doing to 2021 nba champion milwaukee before kyrie rolled an ankle AND harden popped a hammy? was that mediocre?

which other team won a championship with 2 of their 3 best players hurt?


Hang the banner for a 2nd round exit and 2 sweeps. Hooray!!


nobody is saying hang a banner. but to ignore that they were on track to sweep the actual nba champions and win a ring in ***checks notes*** year 1 with KD until both kyrie and harden got hurt is more than a little misleading. do we need a banner to tell us what would have happened in that series if giannis doesnt undercut kyrie?

it's weird to me how emo you guys are about getting bounced from the playoffs in a very predictable fashion. did anyone think they'd win more than 1 game best case?
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Post#53 » by Eatgreenz » Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:39 am

Netaman wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:
Netaman wrote:
what was marks' team doing to 2021 nba champion milwaukee before kyrie rolled an ankle AND harden popped a hammy? was that mediocre?

which other team won a championship with 2 of their 3 best players hurt?


Hang the banner for a 2nd round exit and 2 sweeps. Hooray!!


nobody is saying hang a banner. but to ignore that they were on track to sweep the actual nba champions and win a ring in ***checks notes*** year 1 with KD until both kyrie and harden got hurt is more than a little misleading. do we need a banner to tell us what would have happened in that series if giannis doesnt undercut kyrie?

it's weird to me how emo you guys are about getting bounced from the playoffs in a very predictable fashion. did anyone think they'd win more than 1 game best case?

The craziest thing its not like every game we were getting beat by 30. All the games were competitive, which shows just how the clippers are doing without kawhi. We have one star that series goes totally different. But for some reason we have negative nancys like its over for us, were finished.
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Post#54 » by GTR11 » Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:40 am

So we just going to sit here and ignore how Kyrie sabotaged past two season and hang all the blame on Marks.

Got it. Say no more.
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Post#55 » by GTR11 » Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:52 am

Eatgreenz wrote:
Netaman wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:
Hang the banner for a 2nd round exit and 2 sweeps. Hooray!!


nobody is saying hang a banner. but to ignore that they were on track to sweep the actual nba champions and win a ring in ***checks notes*** year 1 with KD until both kyrie and harden got hurt is more than a little misleading. do we need a banner to tell us what would have happened in that series if giannis doesnt undercut kyrie?

it's weird to me how emo you guys are about getting bounced from the playoffs in a very predictable fashion. did anyone think they'd win more than 1 game best case?

The craziest thing its not like every game we were getting beat by 30. All the games were competitive, which shows just how the clippers are doing without kawhi. We have one star that series goes totally different. But for some reason we have negative nancys like its over for us, were finished.

1. LAC played that way entire season. They got continuation. We had no business making PO this year. We were terrible team to finish the season and it showed by azz whipping that was handled. Game 3 no Harden, no problem. Game 4 no Biid, no problem again.
2. I really wonder what you consider competitive.
3. It was beyond stupid to make PO this year. It's complete misunderstanding of entire situation. Top 12-14 lotto pick would've made significant impact this off-season. Now we most likely will lose two years of Bridges cheap contract just to be swept in embarrassing fashion.
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Post#56 » by TheNetsFan » Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:32 am

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nobody is saying hang a banner. but to ignore that they were on track to sweep the actual nba champions and win a ring in ***checks notes*** year 1 with KD until both kyrie and harden got hurt is more than a little misleading. do we need a banner to tell us what would have happened in that series if giannis doesnt undercut kyrie?

it's weird to me how emo you guys are about getting bounced from the playoffs in a very predictable fashion. did anyone think they'd win more than 1 game best case?

The craziest thing its not like every game we were getting beat by 30. All the games were competitive, which shows just how the clippers are doing without kawhi. We have one star that series goes totally different. But for some reason we have negative nancys like its over for us, were finished.

1. LAC played that way entire season. They got continuation. We had no business making PO this year. We were terrible team to finish the season and it showed by azz whipping that was handled. Game 3 no Harden, no problem. Game 4 no Biid, no problem again.
2. I really wonder what you consider competitive.
3. It was beyond stupid to make PO this year. It's complete misunderstanding of entire situation. Top 12-14 lotto pick would've made significant impact this off-season. Now we most likely will lose two years of Bridges cheap contract just to be swept in embarrassing fashion.

We were roughly a .500 team after the trades, and we had way too far to tank to fall out of the playoffs. We also needed to assess the new pieces and how they fit. Finally, better play = better trade values for players you're willing to trade.
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Post#57 » by GTR11 » Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:39 am

TheNetsFan wrote:
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Eatgreenz wrote:The craziest thing its not like every game we were getting beat by 30. All the games were competitive, which shows just how the clippers are doing without kawhi. We have one star that series goes totally different. But for some reason we have negative nancys like its over for us, were finished.

1. LAC played that way entire season. They got continuation. We had no business making PO this year. We were terrible team to finish the season and it showed by azz whipping that was handled. Game 3 no Harden, no problem. Game 4 no Biid, no problem again.
2. I really wonder what you consider competitive.
3. It was beyond stupid to make PO this year. It's complete misunderstanding of entire situation. Top 12-14 lotto pick would've made significant impact this off-season. Now we most likely will lose two years of Bridges cheap contract just to be swept in embarrassing fashion.

We were roughly a .500 team after the trades, and we had way too far to tank to fall out of the playoffs. We also needed to assess the new pieces and how they fit. Finally, better play = better trade values for players you're willing to trade.

Too far?

During that 5 game losing streak we were 1 loss away from 14 spot, 2 and a half from 11th lotto pick with only 8 games. Could've easily did what everyone else done. Play Bridges for 20 min and than send him to the locker for precaution reasons. Them bums wouldn't be winning jack sh**.
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Post#58 » by Eatgreenz » Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:21 pm

GTR11 wrote:
Eatgreenz wrote:
Netaman wrote:
nobody is saying hang a banner. but to ignore that they were on track to sweep the actual nba champions and win a ring in ***checks notes*** year 1 with KD until both kyrie and harden got hurt is more than a little misleading. do we need a banner to tell us what would have happened in that series if giannis doesnt undercut kyrie?

it's weird to me how emo you guys are about getting bounced from the playoffs in a very predictable fashion. did anyone think they'd win more than 1 game best case?

The craziest thing its not like every game we were getting beat by 30. All the games were competitive, which shows just how the clippers are doing without kawhi. We have one star that series goes totally different. But for some reason we have negative nancys like its over for us, were finished.

1. LAC played that way entire season. They got continuation. We had no business making PO this year. We were terrible team to finish the season and it showed by azz whipping that was handled. Game 3 no Harden, no problem. Game 4 no Biid, no problem again.
2. I really wonder what you consider competitive.
3. It was beyond stupid to make PO this year. It's complete misunderstanding of entire situation. Top 12-14 lotto pick would've made significant impact this off-season. Now we most likely will lose two years of Bridges cheap contract just to be swept in embarrassing fashion.

1. Agreed the team was literally formed mid season. The rest of the season was whatever regardless of result, the real team will be formed in the offseason. Sixers looked impressive to you?, they will get handled by the Celtics in 6 max
2. The team was able to keep Sixers well below there avg scoring the whole series, our lack of offense kept us from getting some wins
3.PO allows us to see who should be kept and gain experience for someone like Bridges what he needs to improve to be a 2nd option maybe 1st. We can still move into the lottery, reports around Dallas based sites how they would love DFS back even talking about trading the 10th pick for it. One of our picks and DFS for 10th pick could be a possibility, Dallas is desperate for some defense.
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Re: Sean Marks and Jacque Vaughn should be fired. 

Post#59 » by NetsWorld » Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:36 pm

Eatgreenz wrote:
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Eatgreenz wrote:The craziest thing its not like every game we were getting beat by 30. All the games were competitive, which shows just how the clippers are doing without kawhi. We have one star that series goes totally different. But for some reason we have negative nancys like its over for us, were finished.

1. LAC played that way entire season. They got continuation. We had no business making PO this year. We were terrible team to finish the season and it showed by azz whipping that was handled. Game 3 no Harden, no problem. Game 4 no Biid, no problem again.
2. I really wonder what you consider competitive.
3. It was beyond stupid to make PO this year. It's complete misunderstanding of entire situation. Top 12-14 lotto pick would've made significant impact this off-season. Now we most likely will lose two years of Bridges cheap contract just to be swept in embarrassing fashion.

1. Agreed the team was literally formed mid season. The rest of the season was whatever regardless of result, the real team will be formed in the offseason. Sixers looked impressive to you?, they will get handled by the Celtics in 6 max
2. The team was able to keep Sixers well below there avg scoring the whole series, our lack of offense kept us from getting some wins
3.PO allows us to see who should be kept and gain experience for someone like Bridges what he needs to improve to be a 2nd option maybe 1st. We can still move into the lottery, reports around Dallas based sites how they would love DFS back even talking about trading the 10th pick for it. One of our picks and DFS for 10th pick could be a possibility, Dallas is desperate for some defense.



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Re: Sean Marks and Jacque Vaughn should be fired. 

Post#60 » by 3pt_chucker » Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:04 pm

GTR11 wrote:
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GTR11 wrote:1. LAC played that way entire season. They got continuation. We had no business making PO this year. We were terrible team to finish the season and it showed by azz whipping that was handled. Game 3 no Harden, no problem. Game 4 no Biid, no problem again.
2. I really wonder what you consider competitive.
3. It was beyond stupid to make PO this year. It's complete misunderstanding of entire situation. Top 12-14 lotto pick would've made significant impact this off-season. Now we most likely will lose two years of Bridges cheap contract just to be swept in embarrassing fashion.

We were roughly a .500 team after the trades, and we had way too far to tank to fall out of the playoffs. We also needed to assess the new pieces and how they fit. Finally, better play = better trade values for players you're willing to trade.

Too far?

During that 5 game losing streak we were 1 loss away from 14 spot, 2 and a half from 11th lotto pick with only 8 games. Could've easily did what everyone else done. Play Bridges for 20 min and than send him to the locker for precaution reasons. Them bums wouldn't be winning jack sh**.


It was malpractice that Marks literally did nothing after the KD trade.

Could've traded Joe and Seth for literally anything and even had an offer on the table of 2 picks for DFS.

Keeping all 3 was a bad decision in real time (check the thread when this happened) and in hindsight it looks even worse.

Now instead, Curry will walk for nothing, Joe's is a bad player on an expiring and DFS value has tanked. Nets should've leaned into the young players(see what we had in CamT, Sumner, Yuta) and tanked to get a lottery pick. Instead the Nets did nothing only to be predictably embarrassingly swept in the playoffs.

This is the GM y'all trust. SMH

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