Kyle Anderson to play for China in FIBA World Cup

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Re: Kyle Anderson to play for China in FIBA World Cup 

Post#21 » by dhsilv2 » Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:52 pm

Was expecting to roll my eyes given who cares about FIBA, but that's a pretty cool story about finding his family and yeah a really interesting story about his great grandfather moving to Jamaica.
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Re: Kyle Anderson to play for China 

Post#22 » by hippesthippo » Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:59 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
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The fact he doent count as naturalized is pretty crazy. But it will be fun to see him in FIBA as first option, I always wondered does he really have Bodiroga in him, now we gonna see.


I don't understand what you're trying to say about not counting as naturalized. It said in the OP that they "started the process of naturalization last year," but I don't even know what the criteria for that is and who decides it.

Is naturalization something which is defined and limited by FIBA, or is it the country that makes that determination?


Well, I assume they used word naturalization just as is, and he is nto FIBA Naturalized player. Because FIBA naturalized player can have nothing to do with country whatsoever, he just needs to get passport of that country and thats it. The fact they searching and linking his encestry inplies they do not consider or plan for him to count as FIBA naturalized, not liek it really matters, because I believe CHina did not use naturalized player, but if they want, they still could.
(Or maybe he will count as naturalized player, and Chinese federation bringing his ancestry just to explain their fans why he should be on a team, Chinese are patriotic people and they probably against FIBA naturalizations.)

It is the same thing with how Calathes and Tyler Dorsey can play for Greece, neither of them is naturalized player. Brazdeikis plays for Lithuania even tho he is more Canadian at this point, but he is from Lithuanian family and country originally, so he is also not naturalzied. Same with be with Matas Buzelis or Paulo Banchero etc.

I remind that FIBA has one "naturalized'' player per team limit. Naturalized FIba player is a person who has citizenship aka simple passport of the country, but actually has no other connection to that country at all. For example, like Lorenzo Brown, who stained entire European basketball this past Autum, by seriously dragging Spain to gold medal. He should have been Eurobasketball MVP really, FIBA Europe was probably just so ashemed so talked themselves into giving MVP to WIlly Hernangomez.


Ok, I see what you're saying. You think that China will play Kyle Anderson on the team, but that he won't count against the FIBA rule allowing only one "naturalized," player per team. That would mean that they could still add a second, random American to their team with no ties to the country at all other than a passport, i.e. Lorenzo Brown playing for Spain.

The way I read it, China is planning on counting him as their lone "naturalized," player under FIBA guidelines. Only, in this case, China is purposefully choosing someone with ancestral ties to their country in order to appease fans and government officials, or simply to abide by their own cultural norms.

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hippesthippo wrote:Now this is stretching it. I love how the report says he meets the "strict criteria," and then goes on to state that his Grandmother was born in Jamaica.

Yup, totally fits the criteria. They even refer to him as one of Minnesota's "star," players. :lol:

I'm glad for Slo-mo, I've always liked his game, but this seems like a bit too much. You have to draw the line somewhere.

more strict than a lot of other countries, IE one must have a 'blood' relationship, which he does. feels consistent with how china the country relates to 'overseas chinese' anyway.
did you watch any of this world baseball classic though? team italy was just a bunch of guys from jersey named joey. some guy played for team israel because his wife is jewish :lol:


Yeah, I've actually completely changed my opinion on the matter. I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong.
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Re: Kyle Anderson to play for China in FIBA World Cup 

Post#23 » by rockmanslim » Wed Apr 26, 2023 5:32 pm

The part that stuck out to me is Yao being so strict on the blood thing. I wonder what prompted that? He seemed like a good dude in his time with Houston so I assume this is being done in good faith for a good reason.
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Re: Kyle Anderson to play for China 

Post#24 » by SalmonsSuperfan » Wed Apr 26, 2023 5:34 pm

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Yeah, I've actually completely changed my opinion on the matter. I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong.


i don't think you're wrong because there's inherently something off about a guy with the most american sounding name ever playing for china. but it makes the fiba games more interesting if countries aren't just sending a bunch of guys who couldn't hang with american high schoolers.
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Re: Kyle Anderson to play for China in FIBA World Cup 

Post#25 » by hippesthippo » Wed Apr 26, 2023 5:43 pm

rockmanslim wrote:The part that stuck out to me is Yao being so strict on the blood thing. I wonder what prompted that? He seemed like a good dude in his time with Houston so I assume this is being done in good faith for a good reason.


It's a cultural thing.
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Re: Kyle Anderson to play for China in FIBA World Cup 

Post#26 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Apr 26, 2023 5:45 pm

Okay I feel bad. I saw a headline last night of "Kyle Anderson to play for China" and I honestly thought it was just another one of those "Player X sucks, better learn chinese" memes.
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Re: Kyle Anderson to play for China in FIBA World Cup 

Post#27 » by spanishninja » Wed Apr 26, 2023 5:51 pm

Wallace_Wallace wrote:Saw this story last night, someone commented "He will joining Dillon Brooks and Ben Simmons next year." :lol:


lol, Dillon Brooks may be the most hated man in China after Daryl Morey. They love Lebron over there.
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Re: Kyle Anderson to play for China in FIBA World Cup 

Post#28 » by Up-And-Coming » Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:01 pm

Cool story. Nice to see them track down their relatives. I guess that makes Kyle 1/8th Chinese.
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Re: Kyle Anderson to play for China in FIBA World Cup 

Post#29 » by Benedict_Boozer » Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:11 pm

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spanishninja wrote:yeah, Chinese Jamaicans are definitely a thing. Interesting story!

the combination makes some of the tastiest food ever, chinese west indian food is just top notch


Hmm now you have me interested, I bet that is amazing.
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Re: Kyle Anderson to play for China in FIBA World Cup 

Post#30 » by UcanUwill » Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:24 pm

hippesthippo wrote:
rockmanslim wrote:The part that stuck out to me is Yao being so strict on the blood thing. I wonder what prompted that? He seemed like a good dude in his time with Houston so I assume this is being done in good faith for a good reason.


It's a cultural thing.


being strict here doesnt mean guy is anti globalist, or conservative or nationalist even, but this is national team thing, you have to have some of that. I am incredibly anti-right person, but in FIBA I hate most naturalized players. Like what an honor was for Russia to be EUropean champions, when freaking JR Holden won them the game, or Spain to be reigning European champions seriously because 2 months before tournament they quite literally bought Lorenzo Brown who was whoring himself to few nations? To me, those championships will always have an asterisk. Like are we really must applaud that, to me it breaks the entire spirit of why FIBA exist. It suppose to be there, because we could see which country has the best collection of players, not who can sniff in the best available foreigner.

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Wallace_Wallace wrote:Saw this story last night, someone commented "He will joining Dillon Brooks and Ben Simmons next year." :lol:


lol, Dillon Brooks may be the most hated man in China after Daryl Morey. They love Lebron over there.


Obviously, jokers were hard iching to post that joke, because this is not a story about Anderson leaving NBA, its him joining Chinese national team. I am just saying.

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