CumberlandPosey wrote:i like what "mister prick" rick barry says about the state of todays game .he has some points i must admit.
besides that its just a flawless mix.many scenes i have never seen or from totally different viewpoint.what oscar does is insane!!!
would have loved to see this man in person controlling the tempo of games.
As my own mind has matured about the game I've noticed Oscar Robertson has been (and still is) typically difficult to showcase because of a few things:
* He's not particularly fast
* He doesn't jump particularly high or use any kind of athleticism as a crutch to lean on really - other than stability/strength
* He keeps his movements extremely simple
* He has an unorthodox shooting mechanic
* Most footage of him is in slow motion - which doesn't combine well with his stocky frame and simple movements
It's easy to end up with a result that makes people accuse him of being unimpressive if you don't showcase his game with the right combination of testimony/video. But if you get it right, you can capture the key things that made him dominant. Number one, I think it ALWAYS needs pointed out how big or strong he was, because that explains the rest of his simple looking game of basically spreading out and owning his space constantly. I had Elgin mention that in this but even then I wish I could have illustrated that even better, but I'm glad you were able to perceive him as an impressive player so it must have been enough. Oscar was 220lbs with a wide body. 6-4.75 barefoot so identical height to Michael and Kobe who are much thinner framed (closer to 205 was their ideal weights) "6-6" guys. Like I said Oscar always has this wide stance with arms and body just consuming space between the defender to protect the ball. He didn't try to outquick players so much as just wait for them to lose their cool and bite on a fake or just not come up quick enough. Oscar's unorthodox shot was almost behind his head which means defenders had to really reach. And you know, if you reach in basketball on defense you can get burned pretty bad even by slow players. Or they just couldn't reach his shot, he was perfect at waiting to shoot when they were on their way down and unbalanced. So he was extremely methodical and patient. He almost never looked under duress which is unlike more herky jerky (but still effective) players like Jerry West. He's like a Tim Duncan of guards. Just very simple and fundamental, which can be hard to convince skeptics that might want flashy moves to be impressed. LeBron plays a lot like Oscar now I notice, with the wide stance. So maybe that also helps us understand Oscar's game on tape better now.