2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat (Series tied 1-1)

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Who wins?

Knicks in 4
8
3%
Knicks in 5
17
6%
Knicks in 6
74
25%
Knicks in 7
51
17%
Heat in 4
9
3%
Heat in 5
27
9%
Heat in 6
95
31%
Heat in 7
21
7%
 
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#481 » by Heat_Down_Under » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:30 am

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iamoti wrote:I love how Knick fans keep bringing the Atlanta game when we got destroyed on rebounds, while totally ignoring the fact Atlanta werr our sons previous to that. 1 game tells the story. Cool

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and you were our sons this season series 8-) 8-)


If that makes you feel better. Sure we were your sons. Lets see who's the father after this series.


Bulls were thinking the same thing before the play in game..
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Post#482 » by 3ballbomber » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:34 am

Knicks 3-1 vs Heat this season. NY 5th & MIA 7th. NY just 3 wins better. We cld talk about NY having the better season all day but this ain't the regular season. The playoff is a different beast. Experience becomes significant & Miami has a tonne.

In the last 3 seasons Miami has played in 2 ECF's & NBA finals. Heat coach & players are playoff battle tested. Spo does his best work in the post season. Thibs ain't no slouch & is also defensive minded but his working w/ young, inexperienced players who haven't been tested. Miami's experience showed vs Bucks, dismantling the 1st seed who owned the best record in the league, only winning ONE gm.

The version of Miami ain't an 8th seed but more the same team who was #1 last season. The thing that will hurt Miami is the absence of Herro & lesser point Dipo. Heat can over come what Dipo provides but Herro was close to 2nd leading scorer. Heat seem to be playing quite well without him though.

Bam had a tough time offensively vs the twin towers, which he tends to do vs taller players. In spite of that averaged 17.4 pts, 8.6 rebs & 5 assists. After tough match ups vs Lopez & Giannis he may have an easier time vs NY's bigs which he averages 18.5pts & 8rebs. He'll be key in this series.

Unlike Coach Bud, if Thibs can adjust defense on Jimmy he'll find better success.

I have Miami taking it in 6 games based on the above. Hopefully all will be healthy & i look forward to an exciting series.


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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#483 » by cgf » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:35 am

Heat_Down_Under wrote:
iamoti wrote:
The KnicksFix wrote:
and you were our sons this season series 8-) 8-)


If that makes you feel better. Sure we were your sons. Lets see who's the father after this series.


Bulls were thinking the same thing before the play in game..


We weren't the ones who brought up the regular season :lol:
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#484 » by Heat_Down_Under » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:37 am

cgf wrote:
Heat_Down_Under wrote:
iamoti wrote:
If that makes you feel better. Sure we were your sons. Lets see who's the father after this series.


Bulls were thinking the same thing before the play in game..


We weren't the ones who brought up the regular season :lol:


Just saying.. regular season head to heads or sweeps whatever doesn’t win you a ring
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Post#485 » by cgf » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:39 am

3ballbomber wrote:Knicks 3-1 vs Heat this season. NY 5th & MIA 7th. NY just 3 wins better. We cld talk about NY having the better season all day but this ain't the regular season. The playoff is a different beast. Experience becomes significant & Miami has a tonne.

In the last 3 seasons Miami has played in 2 ECF's & NBA finals. Heat coach & players are playoff battle tested. Spo does his best work in the post season. Thibs ain't no slouch & is also defensive minded but his working w/ young, inexperienced players who haven't been tested. Miami's experience showed vs Bucks, dismantling the 1st seed who owned the best record in the league, only winning ONE gm.

The version of Miami ain't an 8th seed but more the same team who was #1 last season. The thing that will hurt Miami is the absence of Herro & lesser point Dipo. Heat can over come what Dipo provides but Herro was close to 2nd leading scorer. Heat seem to be playing quite well without him though.

Bam had a tough time offensively vs the twin towers, which he tends to do vs taller players. In spite of that averaged 17.4 pts, 8.6 rebs & 5 assists. After tough match ups vs Lopez & Giannis he may have an easier time vs NY's bigs which he averages 18.5pts & 8rebs. He'll be key in this series.

I have Miami taking it in 6 games based on the above. Hopefully all will be healthy & i look forward to an exciting series.


Best Of Luck NY Fans. You'll need it :wink:


One thing to keep in mind with that is that Lopez is a very different 5 than Mitch & IH. Where Lopez was out at the perimeter spacing, Mitch & Hartenstein will be in the paint looking to destroy the boards. Not saying Bam isn't up for it, just that this'll be a very different type of challenge for him.
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#486 » by cgf » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:41 am

Heat_Down_Under wrote:
cgf wrote:
Heat_Down_Under wrote:
Bulls were thinking the same thing before the play in game..


We weren't the ones who brought up the regular season :lol:


Just saying.. regular season head to heads or sweeps whatever doesn’t win you a ring


I don't disagree. Just laughing cause your man was the one using your regular season success against Atlanta to waive away your struggles with their rebounding in the play-in :dontknow:
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Post#487 » by DaGawd » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:42 am

3ballbomber wrote:Knicks 3-1 vs Heat this season. NY 5th & MIA 7th. NY just 3 wins better. We cld talk about NY having the better season all day but this ain't the regular season. The playoff is a different beast. Experience becomes significant & Miami has a tonne.

In the last 3 seasons Miami has played in 2 ECF's & NBA finals. Heat coach & players are playoff battle tested. Spo does his best work in the post season. Thibs ain't no slouch & is also defensive minded but his working w/ young, inexperienced players who haven't been tested. Miami's experience showed vs Bucks, dismantling the 1st seed who owned the best record in the league, only winning ONE gm.

The version of Miami ain't an 8th seed but more the same team who was #1 last season. The thing that will hurt Miami is the absence of Herro & lesser point Dipo. Heat can over come what Dipo provides but Herro was close to 2nd leading scorer. Heat seem to be playing quite well without him though.

Bam had a tough time offensively vs the twin towers, which he tends to do vs taller players. In spite of that averaged 17.4 pts, 8.6 rebs & 5 assists. After tough match ups vs Lopez & Giannis he may have an easier time vs NY's bigs which he averages 18.5pts & 8rebs. He'll be key in this series.

I have Miami taking it in 6 games based on the above. Hopefully all will be healthy & i look forward to an exciting series.


Best Of Luck NY Fans. You'll need it :wink:

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Post#488 » by One Last Shot » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:42 am

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KnixtapeH20 wrote:
cgf wrote:
Deuce has hit 58 of the 203 3s he's taken in the NBA. I love the kid, but he's just not going to get significant PT shooting 28.5% from 3.

He was a rookie u can't count his numbers when he barely got minutes even now he's barely getting any minutes but he's improved his shot and his whole all around game. The kids a professional he stays ready

Look up his numbers this season


Ok let's ignore his rookie year. This season he hit 40 of 134 3s; 29.9% isn't good enough either. Again I love the kid and do hope he gets some burn because his energy is just infectuous even if teams can ignore him as a shooter...but for him to get more PT he's going to need to shoot better.

Just for comparison, RJ shot 31.0% from 3 this year. Hartenstein & Keels were the only knicks to shoot worse from 3 this season.


Deuce is shooting 40% 3s in 2 attempts per game since February. That's not a bad improvement from a career 28% 3PT shooter, don't you think?
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#489 » by 3ballbomber » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:58 am

DaGawd wrote:
3ballbomber wrote:Knicks 3-1 vs Heat this season. NY 5th & MIA 7th. NY just 3 wins better. We cld talk about NY having the better season all day but this ain't the regular season. The playoff is a different beast. Experience becomes significant & Miami has a tonne.

In the last 3 seasons Miami has played in 2 ECF's & NBA finals. Heat coach & players are playoff battle tested. Spo does his best work in the post season. Thibs ain't no slouch & is also defensive minded but his working w/ young, inexperienced players who haven't been tested. Miami's experience showed vs Bucks, dismantling the 1st seed who owned the best record in the league, only winning ONE gm.

The version of Miami ain't an 8th seed but more the same team who was #1 last season. The thing that will hurt Miami is the absence of Herro & lesser point Dipo. Heat can over come what Dipo provides but Herro was close to 2nd leading scorer. Heat seem to be playing quite well without him though.

Bam had a tough time offensively vs the twin towers, which he tends to do vs taller players. In spite of that averaged 17.4 pts, 8.6 rebs & 5 assists. After tough match ups vs Lopez & Giannis he may have an easier time vs NY's bigs which he averages 18.5pts & 8rebs. He'll be key in this series.

I have Miami taking it in 6 games based on the above. Hopefully all will be healthy & i look forward to an exciting series.


Best Of Luck NY Fans. You'll need it :wink:

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Post#490 » by Butch718 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:11 am

Love it.

Opposing fans underestimating the Knicks once again. I actually prefer it at this point. This team has made people eat their words time and time again.
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Post#491 » by Butch718 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:18 am

cgf wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:Really depends if Jimmy can keep his level of play up .. Will randle get on track ? Bam has to be useful on the boards at least … heat in 7 . Jimmy has to guard Brunson. Duncan has keep up his shooting as well . Should be great series


Tough to say with Julius. He seemed to be getting back to form in game 5, but then he re-injured the ankle. So even if he's back in time to start this series, you'd have to imagine he won't be close to 100% again.

Luckily the heat don't have a Mobley next to Bam and if they stick Bam on Julius, then Mitch will be able to dominate...but I'm not expecting Julius to start getting to 80-90% until the back half of this series at the earliest.


Knicks have the luxury of having Obi as a backup. So even when Randle isn’t playing, or not playing well, I have complete trust and faith in Toppin whenever he’s on the floor. They have starter quality talent, riding the bench. He has proven that he’s more than capable of filling in when he’s in the game. One could argue that the offense flows better, because he plays off the ball really well. He also runs the floor extremely well, and can bit the 3 from the wing.
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#492 » by iamoti » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:24 am

cgf wrote:
Heat_Down_Under wrote:
iamoti wrote:
If that makes you feel better. Sure we were your sons. Lets see who's the father after this series.


Bulls were thinking the same thing before the play in game..


We weren't the ones who brought up the regular season :lol:


Most of the posters definately brought up regular season. Like you had some impressive run. You had 3 , T H R E E, more wins than us. I won't even bother to gather our record against teams like Detroit, Orlando, Charlotte to see how many losses we had there.
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Post#493 » by Heat_Down_Under » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:34 am

Butch718 wrote:Love it.

Opposing fans underestimating the Knicks once again. I actually prefer it at this point. This team has made people eat their words time and time again.


Time and time again only beating the Cavs so far and making it to the second round of play offs for the first time in 10 years? or time and time again in the regular season?
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Post#494 » by iamoti » Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:00 am

Butch718 wrote:Love it.

Opposing fans underestimating the Knicks once again. I actually prefer it at this point. This team has made people eat their words time and time again.


Time and time again :D :D :D

last 5 seasons :
21/22 - missed playoffs
20/21 - lost to Atlanta in the first round 1-4
19/20 - missed playoffs
18/19 - missed playoffs
17/18 - missed playoffs

Time and time again you made people eat their words.

Congratulations on beating a bad Cavs team that was not suited at all for the playoffs.
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Post#495 » by DrCoach » Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:15 am

goodboys lats wrote:Knicks just beat some kids. Heat beat the best team in the East in 5. Jimmy is easily the best player in this series. How does anyone think the Knicks win this?



Without Giannis 2.75 games…
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Post#496 » by DaGawd » Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:18 am

iamoti wrote:
Butch718 wrote:Love it.

Opposing fans underestimating the Knicks once again. I actually prefer it at this point. This team has made people eat their words time and time again.


Time and time again :D :D :D

last 5 seasons :
21/22 - missed playoffs
20/21 - lost to Atlanta in the first round 1-4
19/20 - missed playoffs
18/19 - missed playoffs
17/18 - missed playoffs

Time and time again you made people eat their words.

Congratulations on beating a bad Cavs team that was not suited at all for the playoffs.

thanks.. your terrible heat team is next
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#497 » by iamoti » Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:20 am

DrCoach wrote:
goodboys lats wrote:Knicks just beat some kids. Heat beat the best team in the East in 5. Jimmy is easily the best player in this series. How does anyone think the Knicks win this?



Without Giannis 2.75 games…


If you want to be more specific , Giannis missed 2 games and a half.

That half a game they were already down double digits with Giannis playing.

And they won one of the 2 full games without Giannis. You could argue they played better without Giannis.

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Post#498 » by DrCoach » Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:22 am

goodboys lats wrote:Knicks just beat some kids. Heat beat the best team in the East in 5. Jimmy is easily the best player in this series. How does anyone think the Knicks win this?



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Post#499 » by DrCoach » Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:26 am

iamoti wrote:
DrCoach wrote:
goodboys lats wrote:Knicks just beat some kids. Heat beat the best team in the East in 5. Jimmy is easily the best player in this series. How does anyone think the Knicks win this?



Without Giannis 2.75 games…


If you want to be more specific , Giannis missed 2 games and a half.

That half a game they were already down double digits with Giannis playing.

And they won one of the 2 full games without Giannis. You could argue they played better without Giannis.

Next.


He played 11 mins out of 48

Thats actually more than 2.75 cause math
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Post#500 » by iamoti » Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:36 am

DrCoach wrote:
iamoti wrote:
DrCoach wrote:

Without Giannis 2.75 games…


If you want to be more specific , Giannis missed 2 games and a half.

That half a game they were already down double digits with Giannis playing.

And they won one of the 2 full games without Giannis. You could argue they played better without Giannis.

Next.


He played 11 mins out of 48

Thats actually more than 2.75 cause math


He played one or two minutes in Q2 but how does that matter ? you try to downplay our win by saying Giannis was injured yet the 2 full games Giannis played and they were full healthy they lost. Did Giannis miss 10+ free throws because of the injury? How about the fact we didnt have Herro for 4 full games and Oladipo for the last 2?

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