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Re: Trade Thread 2023, Final Day – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST – (Durant Traded) 

Post#1461 » by Larry_Russell » Fri Apr 28, 2023 2:35 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Brown and a s&T grant williams to Portland for Dame

Simmons
Brown
Reddish or Thybulle
Grant
Nurkic


Smart and Timelord to Utah for Markannen and Kessler
Sexton
Smart
THT
Oklynk
Jones

Dame/Pritchard
White/Brogs
Tatum/Hauser
Markannen/Gallo
Kessler/Horford


(OIBs add picks and youth where needed)


Kessler is the cheapeast best player we could get. I doubt Danny just throws Markannen and Kessler at us without picks. What makes Kessler great is not only age, but the fact he has 3 more years under rookie contract.



For Markanned ANd Kessler I would trade loads of picks.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1462 » by snowman » Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:21 pm

I really think Brown is going to get an all-NBA spot this year, and the Celts will sign him accordingly. I also feel that our top seven, Brown, Smart, Tatum, Rob, Big Al, White and Brogdon will not even be considered in a trade. I think Muscala's option will be picked up, Kornet's contract will be guaranteed, Gallo will pick up his option, and Hauser will be deemed not available unless an extreme overpay from someone. That's 11 spots.

The final four roster spots and three two-ways are up in the air. We have many pieces that could fit, and bring different things to the team.

G. Williams (probable resign but also S&T possibility)
Griffin (would like to see him back)
Pritchard (probable trade)
Champagnie (regular roster spot or two-way possibility)
Kabengele (would have to be regular roster spot, no two-way available)
Davison (possibile taking Pritchard's spot if traded)
Begarin
Madar
Kissoonlal (from Maine Celtics two-way possibility)
2nd round pick 33
any other undrafted player available

I think Grant needs to be resigned, then traded, along with Pritchard and a pick or two for a starting PF to pair with Rob, to allow big Al to come off the bench more.
Maybe something like:
Resigned Grant (4 for 40 -48), Pritchard and a 1st for either Marvin Bagley Jr. or Wendell Carter. Wishful thinking, right?
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1463 » by snowman » Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:51 pm

I think we could even get Bagley for a resigned Grant and Pritchard and maybe just a 2nd. (The views on Bagley on the Pistons board are less than favorable, a change to a team with a former teammate (Tatum) maybe just the thing.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1464 » by BK_2020 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:51 pm

Marvin Bagley was just a throw-in in the Semi Ojeleye trade. I can't imagine he has any value, not even Grant and Pritchard value.
Also he's somehow become Marvin Bagley III now. Did his grandfather have a name change?
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1465 » by 165bows » Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:05 pm

Going to be tough to bring in anyone of consequence with the new CBA, without big changes. Imo they’ve almost got what they need already in place in the event Grant walks, just want to add one more physical defender at the four spot to take some minutes if that happens.

Not exactly sure who that guy is. He’s a FA rather than a trade but Hamidou Diallo was a guy that was intriguing at the deadline that will be available. Would be a more athletic, rim-running version of Grant who could attack the basket instead of shooting threes.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1466 » by Parliament10 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:16 pm

BK_2020 wrote:Marvin Bagley was just a throw-in in the Semi Ojeleye trade. I can't imagine he has any value, not even Grant and Pritchard value.
Also he's somehow become Marvin Bagley III now. Did his grandfather have a name change?

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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1467 » by BK_2020 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:39 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Marvin Bagley was just a throw-in in the Semi Ojeleye trade. I can't imagine he has any value, not even Grant and Pritchard value.
Also he's somehow become Marvin Bagley III now. Did his grandfather have a name change?

His Father is Marvin, Jr.

Am I tripping or was Marvin Bagley the Pistons player called Marvin Bagley Jr. until recently?
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1468 » by snowman » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:43 pm

BK_2020 wrote:Marvin Bagley was just a throw-in in the Semi Ojeleye trade. I can't imagine he has any value, not even Grant and Pritchard value.
Also he's somehow become Marvin Bagley III now. Did his grandfather have a name change?


Feb 10, 2022 - Marvin Bagley III was acquired by the Detroit Pistons from the Sacramento Kings in exchange for Josh Jackson, Trey Lyles, a Least Favorable 2023 2nd round pick and a 2024 2nd round pick (SAC own).

I could be wrong, but I don't remember that.
Anyway, at 6'10, 235 and only 24 years old averaging 12 and 6, I would take him for just Grant if I could, or Grant and Pritchard for Bagley and Hampton. I'd even throw in a protected 1st if needed. Would be a much better replacement for Horford as he slows down.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1469 » by Homerclease » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:49 pm

snowman wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Marvin Bagley was just a throw-in in the Semi Ojeleye trade. I can't imagine he has any value, not even Grant and Pritchard value.
Also he's somehow become Marvin Bagley III now. Did his grandfather have a name change?


Feb 10, 2022 - Marvin Bagley III was acquired by the Detroit Pistons from the Sacramento Kings in exchange for Josh Jackson, Trey Lyles, a Least Favorable 2023 2nd round pick and a 2024 2nd round pick (SAC own).

I could be wrong, but I don't remember that.
Anyway, at 6'10, 235 and only 24 years old averaging 12 and 6, I would take him for just Grant if I could, or Grant and Pritchard for Bagley and Hampton. I'd even throw in a protected 1st if needed. Would be a much better replacement for Horford as he slows down.

Love Bagley but he’s worth a 10th of Grant Williams. He has virtually no value
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Re: Trade Thread 2023, Final Day – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST – (Durant Traded) 

Post#1470 » by bucknersrevenge » Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:16 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Brown and a s&T grant williams to Portland for Dame

Simmons
Brown
Reddish or Thybulle
Grant
Nurkic


Smart and Timelord to Utah for Markannen and Kessler
Sexton
Smart
THT
Oklynk
Jones

Dame/Pritchard
White/Brogs
Tatum/Hauser
Markannen/Gallo
Kessler/Horford


(OIBs add picks and youth where needed)


Kessler is the cheapeast best player we could get. I doubt Danny just throws Markannen and Kessler at us without picks. What makes Kessler great is not only age, but the fact he has 3 more years under rookie contract.



For Markanned ANd Kessler I would trade loads of picks.


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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1471 » by Half-Full » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:35 pm

I don't usually post trade ideas, but with Ime Udoka signing on to coach the Rockets, I think we might be able to pull off a trade with the Rockets, perhaps with Jaylen and Sengun as the primary pieces. What other players might be involved, I wouldn't venture to say, but Houston does have some good young players, and I think a balanced trade could be made. What does anyone think?
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1472 » by lon3lytoaster » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:59 pm

Half-Full wrote:I don't usually post trade ideas, but with Ime Udoka signing on to coach the Rockets, I think we might be able to pull off a trade with the Rockets, perhaps with Jaylen and Sengun as the primary pieces. What other players might be involved, I wouldn't venture to say, but Houston does have some good young players, and I think a balanced trade could be made. What does anyone think?


I like Şengün a lot. Not as sure on Jalen Green but I don’t think there’s a trade there with Houston. Jaylen Brown is a bit of a rock and a hard place for us. I don’t think he’s worth a super max, but think it’s time to try something new if we don’t win.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1473 » by bucknersrevenge » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:06 am

lon3lytoaster wrote:
Half-Full wrote:I don't usually post trade ideas, but with Ime Udoka signing on to coach the Rockets, I think we might be able to pull off a trade with the Rockets, perhaps with Jaylen and Sengun as the primary pieces. What other players might be involved, I wouldn't venture to say, but Houston does have some good young players, and I think a balanced trade could be made. What does anyone think?


I like Şengün a lot. Not as sure on Jalen Green but I don’t think there’s a trade there with Houston. Jaylen Brown is a bit of a rock and a hard place for us. I don’t think he’s worth a super max, but think it’s time to try something new if we don’t win.


Regardless of whatever flaws Jaylen may have, he does a lot right too. And that has to be respected. And he's at the top of his game right now. There aren't a lot of players you could move him for and not feel like you're taking 50-75 cents on the dollar.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1474 » by 31to6 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:19 pm

Marvin Bagley is not a good NBA player regardless of what # is after his name.
As hesitant as I am to admit it, I think that -- for now -- Grant is our Al Horford replacement. And god willing, we won't come to that day for a couple more seasons and hopefully multiple titles. But there's just not the resources now to get someone else for that role. A lot can change in a year or three, but I just don't see it.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1475 » by Floody100 » Mon May 1, 2023 5:17 am

Apparently Memphis are looking to trade Steven Adams. Maybe something we should look at ?
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1476 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Mon May 1, 2023 12:42 pm

Floody100 wrote:Apparently Memphis are looking to trade Steven Adams. Maybe something we should look at ?

Imagine watching this team all year and coming to the conclusion that they don't need his veteran leadership. Now I understand that they want more shooting in their lineups but that's not the way to go about it.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1477 » by 165bows » Mon May 1, 2023 1:24 pm

Floody100 wrote:Apparently Memphis are looking to trade Steven Adams. Maybe something we should look at ?

Weird his salary number drops to only (quote-unquote) $12.6M for the next two years. Not sure they have space for him in the rotation but worth a peek at that point for sure. Maybe if Grant leaves and they go more double-big again.

Edit: Wow did not know he shot, ahem, 36% from the FT line this past year. Well at least he can pass the ball.
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1478 » by Darthlukey » Mon May 1, 2023 7:28 pm

snowman wrote:I really think Brown is going to get an all-NBA spot this year, and the Celts will sign him accordingly. I also feel that our top seven, Brown, Smart, Tatum, Rob, Big Al, White and Brogdon will not even be considered in a trade. I think Muscala's option will be picked up, Kornet's contract will be guaranteed, Gallo will pick up his option, and Hauser will be deemed not available unless an extreme overpay from someone. That's 11 spots.

The final four roster spots and three two-ways are up in the air. We have many pieces that could fit, and bring different things to the team.

G. Williams (probable resign but also S&T possibility)
Griffin (would like to see him back)
Pritchard (probable trade)
Champagnie (regular roster spot or two-way possibility)
Kabengele (would have to be regular roster spot, no two-way available)
Davison (possibile taking Pritchard's spot if traded)
Begarin
Madar
Kissoonlal (from Maine Celtics two-way possibility)
2nd round pick 33
any other undrafted player available

I think Grant needs to be resigned, then traded, along with Pritchard and a pick or two for a starting PF to pair with Rob, to allow big Al to come off the bench more.
Maybe something like:
Resigned Grant (4 for 40 -48), Pritchard and a 1st for either Marvin Bagley Jr. or Wendell Carter. Wishful thinking, right?

Too much for bagley, probably not enough for wcj. But it would be nice
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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1479 » by Feed Your Head » Mon May 1, 2023 8:08 pm

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Re: Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason) 

Post#1480 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Tue May 2, 2023 2:22 am

Feed Your Head wrote:
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I wonder if he'd be interested in Marcus to lead them in to the promised lands of the playoffs?
But a poster on the Trade Board had a good suggestion, Grant S&T for Tate.
That actually makes sense for both clubs...

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