Jalen Green's value

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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#21 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:04 pm

I think he's worth at least a boderline all star (or even all star). Green and filler for Mikal Bridges and a Suns FRP could be an option.
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#22 » by NCHeels2008 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:07 pm

That's interesting! I'd prefer Bridges because I think he could top out as 2nd best player on a title winning team but he can also be a superb 3rd-4th option. With Green, hes always going to be worse than Bridges defensively and needs the ball offensively so he needs a more specialized roster fit and basically needs to be at least a #2 to be worth the pain of fitting the right pieces around him.
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#23 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:11 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:I think he's worth at least a boderline all star (or even all star). Green and filler for Mikal Bridges and a Suns FRP could be an option.


Jalen Green, 2024 BKN 1st, 2026 BKN 1st for Mikal, 2025 PHX 1st, 2027 PHI 1st (top 8 prot), 2027 PHX 1st
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#24 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:16 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:I think he's worth at least a boderline all star (or even all star). Green and filler for Mikal Bridges and a Suns FRP could be an option.


Jalen Green, 2024 BKN 1st, 2026 BKN 1st for Mikal, 2025 PHX 1st, 2027 PHI 1st (top 8 prot), 2027 PHX 1st


yeah that's even better for Brooklyn. I like it for both teams even if I don't think Houston should trade Green in the first place.
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#25 » by TheProfessor » Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:20 am

Dadouv47 wrote:I think he's worth at least a boderline all star (or even all star). Green and filler for Mikal Bridges and a Suns FRP could be an option.

I doubt green could get Bridges straight up, let alone with additional compensation.
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#26 » by NYG » Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:29 am

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LightTheBeam wrote:I get Houston fans aren't eager to move him. But if you are committed to bringing Harden back, wouldn't you offer Green in a deal for Jaylen Brown? I'd make him available for Brown in an instant.
No. He's expiring and even if he wasn't a Jaylen Brown - Harden combo is not winning a ring so what's the point of taking a giant shortcut


What about going all in on Luka/Harden? I think Houston is a rare team that could make an offer Dallas could listen to if everything including Green were on the table.

Green, '23 Rockets 1st (if not Wemby), Sengun and the Nets picks for Luka?
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#27 » by Kiss of Death » Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:51 am

Yeah, the Rockets aren’t trading Green. It’s just a clickbait article that has already been debunked.
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#28 » by K_chile22 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:57 am

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LightTheBeam wrote:I get Houston fans aren't eager to move him. But if you are committed to bringing Harden back, wouldn't you offer Green in a deal for Jaylen Brown? I'd make him available for Brown in an instant.
No. He's expiring and even if he wasn't a Jaylen Brown - Harden combo is not winning a ring so what's the point of taking a giant shortcut


What about going all in on Luka/Harden? I think Houston is a rare team that could make an offer Dallas could listen to if everything including Green were on the table.

Green, '23 Rockets 1st (if not Wemby), Sengun and the Nets picks for Luka?
A Luka level guy is the only thing that makes sense for the rockets (tho it doesn't for the other team probably)
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#29 » by Dadouv47 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:30 am

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Dadouv47 wrote:I think he's worth at least a boderline all star (or even all star). Green and filler for Mikal Bridges and a Suns FRP could be an option.

I doubt green could get Bridges straight up, let alone with additional compensation.


I love Bridges but feel his trade value is a bit overrated on this board. Hope they move him so we will have a better clue about it but think he will stay in Brooklyn.
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#30 » by letsgobulls23 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:33 am

K_chile22 wrote:
Mike lorenzo wrote:Frankly, the situation for the future of Houston seems pretty good to me... I don't understand the pessimism... they had an inexperienced coach, perfect for tanking... 3 promising youngsters with Allstart potential in different positions, their skill set fits perfectly + another High draft pick this year, with a high probability of being a superstar (Scoot/VW) or an ideal fit in Miller or Amen... +Eason/Tate/Garuba..as 2-way roleplayers...Financial flexibility and a good loot of Picks.. They have hired a good coach (until proven otherwise)...if they continue to be the top 3 worst teams in the NBA this year, they should worry...so far they seem to be following a plan... As for OP, I guess MAGIC should be very interested.
#6+#12+Cole for Green?

Hornets??
Bouknight/#4+(Future FRP(Prot?)
Everyone:
Rockets should tank hard for 3 years before they owe a pick to OKC

*Rockets tank hard for 3 years before they owe a pick to OKC*

Some of the same people from above:
What a disaster in Houston

From the outside looking in, it's not the thanking that's bothered me. It's the culture that feels very toxic to me. I like how OKC, SA, ORL have "tanked", and it feels very different from what HOU has done to me.

You obviously follow the team much closer than I do, so I could be wrong. But for me, up until the Udoka hiring (which I really like), HOU has definitely felt like a disaster to me. And I really like Sengun and Jabari.
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#31 » by Apz » Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:36 am

K_chile22 wrote:
Mike lorenzo wrote:Frankly, the situation for the future of Houston seems pretty good to me... I don't understand the pessimism... they had an inexperienced coach, perfect for tanking... 3 promising youngsters with Allstart potential in different positions, their skill set fits perfectly + another High draft pick this year, with a high probability of being a superstar (Scoot/VW) or an ideal fit in Miller or Amen... +Eason/Tate/Garuba..as 2-way roleplayers...Financial flexibility and a good loot of Picks.. They have hired a good coach (until proven otherwise)...if they continue to be the top 3 worst teams in the NBA this year, they should worry...so far they seem to be following a plan... As for OP, I guess MAGIC should be very interested.
#6+#12+Cole for Green?

Hornets??
Bouknight/#4+(Future FRP(Prot?)
Everyone:
Rockets should tank hard for 3 years before they owe a pick to OKC

*Rockets tank hard for 3 years before they owe a pick to OKC*

Some of the same people from above:
What a disaster in Houston


Quiet...

U wake up the knicksfans. They would demand that houston get their next 246 1sts taken away, 1 for every game they tanked...
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#32 » by Apz » Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:48 am

NYG wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
LightTheBeam wrote:I get Houston fans aren't eager to move him. But if you are committed to bringing Harden back, wouldn't you offer Green in a deal for Jaylen Brown? I'd make him available for Brown in an instant.
No. He's expiring and even if he wasn't a Jaylen Brown - Harden combo is not winning a ring so what's the point of taking a giant shortcut


What about going all in on Luka/Harden? I think Houston is a rare team that could make an offer Dallas could listen to if everything including Green were on the table.

Green, '23 Rockets 1st (if not Wemby), Sengun and the Nets picks for Luka?


Dont think houston can bring the assets to the table. Would have to be an okc pick package on top of that.

But since we in this hypitethical trade land again. Lets assume lots of stuff, as been the new normal on the boards. So going by that, if a media guy invents a rumour, which in this case is smoke, so there must be fire, which in another day means that green most likely have to ask out. Yes, im a day ahead, but saw it all with the luka stuff, so we know where this is going.

So if now green demands a trade, what would they get for him? Also remember the rule lately, only half the worth and houston got no say in it even if locked up for many years, they basicly need to take a bad offer cause, well, thats apparently how it works these days.

Mavs offer 10 and irving. Houston clearly have to take it to get harden a runningmate, or harden might get a tear in his eye
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#33 » by K_chile22 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:38 am

letsgobulls23 wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
Mike lorenzo wrote:Frankly, the situation for the future of Houston seems pretty good to me... I don't understand the pessimism... they had an inexperienced coach, perfect for tanking... 3 promising youngsters with Allstart potential in different positions, their skill set fits perfectly + another High draft pick this year, with a high probability of being a superstar (Scoot/VW) or an ideal fit in Miller or Amen... +Eason/Tate/Garuba..as 2-way roleplayers...Financial flexibility and a good loot of Picks.. They have hired a good coach (until proven otherwise)...if they continue to be the top 3 worst teams in the NBA this year, they should worry...so far they seem to be following a plan... As for OP, I guess MAGIC should be very interested.
#6+#12+Cole for Green?

Hornets??
Bouknight/#4+(Future FRP(Prot?)
Everyone:
Rockets should tank hard for 3 years before they owe a pick to OKC

*Rockets tank hard for 3 years before they owe a pick to OKC*

Some of the same people from above:
What a disaster in Houston

From the outside looking in, it's not the thanking that's bothered me. It's the culture that feels very toxic to me. I like how OKC, SA, ORL have "tanked", and it feels very different from what HOU has done to me.

You obviously follow the team much closer than I do, so I could be wrong. But for me, up until the Udoka hiring (which I really like), HOU has definitely felt like a disaster to me. And I really like Sengun and Jabari.
I think a lot of it just comes from association to KPJ. He's the only guy who's deserved any kind of controversial label. There was the wood thing too last season but uhh, that seems to kind of just be who he is. Nothing bad has ever been reported or said about any of the other guys on the team. John Wall said the stuff Jalen gets away with there wouldn't fly on other teams, which, I mean, yeah, they're not trying to win lol the rest of that interview was him beefing with the team for not wanting to give him the role he wanted
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#34 » by Mr Swagtastic » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:49 am

MessiahUjiri wrote:I assume the only reason you trade Green is if Harden is coming, and you need to bring a “win now” player.

I think Harden is just using Houston for leverage in Philly contract talks, but let’s assume this is in play:


Jalen Green for Pascal Siakam


Raps get their 2 guard along with Scottie. Rockets get their PF along with Harden.
I think Toronto should jump on this a core of OG/Barnes/Green/Achiuwa/Poeltl plus #13 is really good to reset with. I don't think Houston does this IMHO they should be targeting a guy like a Karl Anthony-Towns, Bridges, Jaylen Brown or to some extent Zach LaVine.

I think they really should stand pat with Harden plus Green I would look at moving Jabari Smith Jr plus for a win now guy
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#35 » by wolves_89 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:55 am

Even though Green's value has dropped due to a couple of uninspiring seasons, he still has more upside than what the Rockets could get back in trade. For where the Rockets are at in their rebuild Green is exactly the type of young player they need to keep (a guy with at least a little bit of a chance of being a star).
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#36 » by luciano-davidwesley » Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:51 am

Mike lorenzo wrote:Frankly, the situation for the future of Houston seems pretty good to me... I don't understand the pessimism... they had an inexperienced coach, perfect for tanking... 3 promising youngsters with Allstart potential in different positions, their skill set fits perfectly + another High draft pick this year, with a high probability of being a superstar (Scoot/VW) or an ideal fit in Miller or Amen... +Eason/Tate/Garuba..as 2-way roleplayers...Financial flexibility and a good loot of Picks.. They have hired a good coach (until proven otherwise)...if they continue to be the top 3 worst teams in the NBA this year, they should worry...so far they seem to be following a plan... As for OP, I guess MAGIC should be very interested.
#6+#12+Cole for Green?

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Bouknight/#4+(Future FRP(Prot?)

I'd rather take our chances with the 2023 FRP and keep our future first. Not that we can trade a future first anyway with the protections owed to San Antonio in the Kai Jones trade
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#37 » by Domejandro » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:42 am

wolves_89 wrote:Even though Green's value has dropped due to a couple of uninspiring seasons, he still has more upside than what the Rockets could get back in trade. For where the Rockets are at in their rebuild Green is exactly the type of young player they need to keep (a guy with at least a little bit of a chance of being a star).

Jalen Green has only been in the NBA for two seasons. There's a ton of question marks around his efficiency and defense, but I don't know if I'd consider his two seasons to be uninspiring.
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#38 » by TheProfessor » Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:40 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
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Dadouv47 wrote:I think he's worth at least a boderline all star (or even all star). Green and filler for Mikal Bridges and a Suns FRP could be an option.

I doubt green could get Bridges straight up, let alone with additional compensation.


I love Bridges but feel his trade value is a bit overrated on this board. Hope they move him so we will have a better clue about it but think he will stay in Brooklyn.


I think people on this board undervalue him anything, you are getting borderline all-star production on an absurd contract, he reminds me of a future jaylen brown if anything. Green has yet to prove he is a positive player. As a toronto fan, I would trade anything for him including Scottie Barnes. I would hope that OKC would be willing to put up a package for him too, he would be the perfect fit next to SGA.
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#39 » by Jay_Sizzle » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:10 pm

I would want to see Jalen at higher than 42% shooting to consider him as a key trade piece. I agree he still has potential to improve, but I certainly wouldn’t trade an all star for him at this stage. Needs to become a better shooter and learn how to play nba defense.
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Re: Jalen Green's value 

Post#40 » by Residual-Heat » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:41 pm

he's still a nice young prospect. Still worth a top 5 pick IMO.

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