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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#121 » by 76ciology » Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:55 pm

Wont happen but another one is to just let him come off the bench and play just play him against Rob Williams.
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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#122 » by Embiid P » Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:59 pm

I hate to say it but as one of his biggest backers for nearly 10 years, given that this is a recurring theme every postseason, we really need to consider trading Embiid in the offseason. Of course, his value takes a hit with each injury.
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Post#123 » by AI_Efficiency » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:05 pm

Embiid P wrote:I hate to say it but as one of his biggest backers for nearly 10 years, given that this is a recurring theme every postseason, we really need to consider trading Embiid in the offseason. Of course, his value takes a hit with each injury.

If harden is willing to come back I would try again next year and just load manage embiid, Kawhi style, during the regular season. He made it 65 games or something this year right. And now he’ll have his mvp so hopefully he won’t care about the regular season. The odds we get another mvp candidate that we would need to be contenders if we trade him for picks are slim imo.
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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#124 » by Jay555 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:06 pm

76ciology wrote:Dont listen to the naysayers saying we couldn’t win. Hawks were able to win in G5 without Dejounte.

If we ever steal G1, then just play him in G3. That’s the best outcome.

See in G1 if there are some flaws in this Celts team that we can exploit, if its effective or promising in G1 then we might even sit out Biid in G2 if we lose G1.

Harden averaged more points than Tatum or Brown in our head to head match-ups. Maxey just needs to get it going. Maybe Maxey should try to hunt Al or Tatum.

Tobias and Melton has to atleast match White and Brogdon’s production.

Then our defense has to generate a lot of steals without Biid. We need those extra possessions to make up for the scoring.

Easier said than done but “ya’ll want it easy and nothing is easy”.



I like your optimism but if Embiid is out for the series which is likely, then we are getting swept or gentlemen swept.
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Post#125 » by Jay555 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:09 pm

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Embiid P wrote:I hate to say it but as one of his biggest backers for nearly 10 years, given that this is a recurring theme every postseason, we really need to consider trading Embiid in the offseason. Of course, his value takes a hit with each injury.

If harden is willing to come back I would try again next year and just load manage embiid, Kawhi style, during the regular season. He made it 65 games or something this year right. And now he’ll have his mvp so hopefully he won’t care about the regular season. The odds we get another mvp candidate that we would need to be contenders if we trade him for picks are slim imo.


Load management doesn’t mean it may work. Giannis has been load managed the whole season and still got injured in G1R1.

What I am concerned about is Embiid’s durability under playoff conditions. He can be load managed all you want in the regular season, but will he still get injured in R1 when the intensity goes up double notch?
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Post#126 » by Bum Adebayo » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:12 pm

Posted this in GB, but seriously how it's possible that he gets injured every year exactly in R1? there are no back to back games, we've never needed to play 7 games, etc. It's not like he can't play 7 consecutive games in RS without getting injured, he has done that multiple times, but here comes R1 and damn, always injured.
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Post#127 » by 76ciology » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:20 pm

Playoffs is different. Maybe the physicality in the playoffs, and not the wear and tear of reg season, is mostly the cause for his injury.

I dont want to focus on Biid’s condition and how to deal with him, until we see the team and him play in this series.
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Post#128 » by 76ciology » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:24 pm

Another way is to play sub Tucker early with McDaniels or Niang then have Tucker as Reed’s back-up where Tucker plays with McDaniels and Melton off the bench.
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Post#129 » by NYSixersFan » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:33 pm

With a healthy Embiid, We're losing this series in 5, maybe 6. With a hobbled Embiid, We're getting swept.

Make no mistake, Doc & Daryl are happy if Embiid doesn't play. They both know this team isn't good enough, but now they have an excuse to cover up their failures...and Josh Harris isn't smart enough to see that.

I hope I'm wrong.
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Post#130 » by AI_Efficiency » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:33 pm

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Embiid P wrote:I hate to say it but as one of his biggest backers for nearly 10 years, given that this is a recurring theme every postseason, we really need to consider trading Embiid in the offseason. Of course, his value takes a hit with each injury.

If harden is willing to come back I would try again next year and just load manage embiid, Kawhi style, during the regular season. He made it 65 games or something this year right. And now he’ll have his mvp so hopefully he won’t care about the regular season. The odds we get another mvp candidate that we would need to be contenders if we trade him for picks are slim imo.


Load management doesn’t mean it may work. Giannis has been load managed the whole season and still got injured in G1R1.

What I am concerned about is Embiid’s durability under playoff conditions. He can be load managed all you want in the regular season, but will he still get injured in R1 when the intensity goes up double notch?

Yea, some of it is maybe telling embiid like we don’t need the jumping blocks unless it’s season on the line. Like play defense like older Duncan or even AD last night. They still defend the paint, but we don’t need the risky plays.
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Post#131 » by eyeatoma » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:41 pm

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AI_Efficiency wrote:If harden is willing to come back I would try again next year and just load manage embiid, Kawhi style, during the regular season. He made it 65 games or something this year right. And now he’ll have his mvp so hopefully he won’t care about the regular season. The odds we get another mvp candidate that we would need to be contenders if we trade him for picks are slim imo.


Load management doesn’t mean it may work. Giannis has been load managed the whole season and still got injured in G1R1.

What I am concerned about is Embiid’s durability under playoff conditions. He can be load managed all you want in the regular season, but will he still get injured in R1 when the intensity goes up double notch?

Yea, some of it is maybe telling embiid like we don’t need the jumping blocks unless it’s season on the line. Like play defense like older Duncan or even AD last night. They still defend the paint, but we don’t need the risky plays.


Problem is those are most of his blocks. He Is a great weakside defender, who get's blocks at the last minute at the rim, more often than not it's behind the player.
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Post#132 » by FireMorey » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:59 pm

Every time Embiid gets hurt it's always bad too. Remember in the playoffs a few years ago when Giannis fell and his knee buckled and bent inward. Everyone at the time thought he tore every ligament in his knee. Turns out it was just a bone bruise and he only missed a couple games. If the same thing happened to Embiid his knee would have blown apart. His biological or anatomical makeup or whatever you want to call it makes him more prone to injuries.
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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#133 » by Jay555 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:08 am

FireMorey wrote:Every time Embiid gets hurt it's always bad too. Remember in the playoffs a few years ago when Giannis fell and his knee buckled and bent inward. Everyone at the time thought he tore every ligament in his knee. Turns out it was just a bone bruise and he only missed a couple games. If the same thing happened to Embiid his knee would have blown apart. His biological or anatomical makeup or whatever you want to call it makes him more prone to injuries.


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Post#134 » by Bum Adebayo » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:17 am

Meh, we kinda knew what we were getting though, let's remember he was considered by many to be the next Greg Oden, he has greatly surpassed expectations considering all the concerns, but of course it still sucks.
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Post#136 » by Slacktard » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:43 am

I think we can see load managing only really does so much. Mainly to attempt to avoid REGULAR SEASON injury... but at the end of the day the Embiid you get after 82 NBA regular season games is not the Embiid you get before 82 NBA regular season games.

Realistically you can sit Embiid out back-to-backs, you could keep his GP around 55-60. It's still not going to matter because the Embiid that then goes into the playoffs is still going to be worn down and more susceptible to an injury. Hell the only way a 'load management' would probably help for the playoffs is if the Sixers sat Embiid for about 2 or 3 months before the playoffs start, have him come back the last 2 weeks or so of the season and play a few games and then go right into the playoffs.

Basically 're-create' a "bubble-like" playoffs. Yea, that's not going to happen. They won't do it... But that really is the only way he'd be at a higher level of 'less wear' going into a playoffs.

The whole 'load management' strategy. Doesn't really give you higher chances of a star not being injured in the playoffs. It reduces the chance of your star being injured during the regular season.
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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#137 » by Jay555 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:47 am

Slacktard wrote:I think we can see load managing only really does so much. Mainly to attempt to avoid REGULAR SEASON injury... but at the end of the day the Embiid you get after 82 NBA regular season games is not the Embiid you get before 82 NBA regular season games.

Realistically you can sit Embiid out back-to-backs, you could keep his GP around 55-60. It's still not going to matter because the Embiid that then goes into the playoffs is still going to be worn down and more susceptible to an injury. Hell the only way a 'load management' would probably help for the playoffs is if the Sixers sat Embiid for about 2 or 3 months before the playoffs start, have him come back the last 2 weeks or so of the season and play a few games and then go right into the playoffs.

Basically 're-create' a "bubble-like" playoffs. Yea, that's not going to happen. They won't do it... But that really is the only way he'd be at a higher level of 'less wear' going into a playoffs.

The whole 'load management' strategy. Doesn't really give you higher chances of a star not being injured in the playoffs. It reduces the chance of your star being injured during the regular season.


Kawhi Leonard, the master of load management, gets injured non stop.
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Post#138 » by mjkvol » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:49 am

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If it's grade 2 that's a 4-6 week injury. Which means he either misses the whole series or plays the whole series limping around and moping.


Listen, I know you're bitter and want to tear it down, but please stop with the 'moping' foolishness. If he's got a 4-6 week injury, that's the issue.
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Post#139 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:50 am

Just shelf him for the rest of the year. We can't risk him tearing an ACL just to play against a Boston team that is already going to whoop us. It's unfortunate, but many of us predicted this would happen anyway. I don't want a Kevin Durant situation like we had a few years back where he tried to play on a strained achilles and ended up tearing it. Let it be what it's going to be at this point. FML man! But damn...Basketball is a marathon, not a race. Team is in a good spot to run it back next season and try again.
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Post#140 » by mjkvol » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:52 am

NYSixersFan wrote:With a healthy Embiid, We're losing this series in 5, maybe 6. With a hobbled Embiid, We're getting swept.

Make no mistake, Doc & Daryl are happy if Embiid doesn't play. They both know this team isn't good enough, but now they have an excuse to cover up their failures...and Josh Harris isn't smart enough to see that.

I hope I'm wrong.


That's an equally bad part of this, if the injury is as serious as they say. Obviously it costs the Sixers any shot this year, but on top of that it gives Glenn the perfect and convenient excuse, and he's back next season. Brutal.
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