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Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series?

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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#141 » by mjkvol » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:55 am

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AI_Efficiency wrote:If harden is willing to come back I would try again next year and just load manage embiid, Kawhi style, during the regular season. He made it 65 games or something this year right. And now he’ll have his mvp so hopefully he won’t care about the regular season. The odds we get another mvp candidate that we would need to be contenders if we trade him for picks are slim imo.


Load management doesn’t mean it may work. Giannis has been load managed the whole season and still got injured in G1R1.

What I am concerned about is Embiid’s durability under playoff conditions. He can be load managed all you want in the regular season, but will he still get injured in R1 when the intensity goes up double notch?

Yea, some of it is maybe telling embiid like we don’t need the jumping blocks unless it’s season on the line. Like play defense like older Duncan or even AD last night. They still defend the paint, but we don’t need the risky plays.


So you're going to tell a great player to not use his instincts and natural abilities, and expect him to still be the same player? Unfortunately, Embiid is what he is, and you live and die with it as long as he's here.
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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#142 » by FireMorey » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:18 am

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If it's grade 2 that's a 4-6 week injury. Which means he either misses the whole series or plays the whole series limping around and moping.


Listen, I know you're bitter and want to tear it down, but please stop with the 'moping' foolishness. If he's got a 4-6 week injury, that's the issue.


Embiid is known for pouting and sulking whenever he's not 100% and doesn't feel well, let's not pretend like he isn't.

It's irritating to watch when he does it. If you're too hurt or unwell to play then don't play. But playing and moping up and down the court has big loser vibes and rubs off poorly on your teammates. I'd rather he not play at all than play and pout for the entire game.
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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#143 » by AI_Efficiency » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:31 am

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Load management doesn’t mean it may work. Giannis has been load managed the whole season and still got injured in G1R1.

What I am concerned about is Embiid’s durability under playoff conditions. He can be load managed all you want in the regular season, but will he still get injured in R1 when the intensity goes up double notch?

Yea, some of it is maybe telling embiid like we don’t need the jumping blocks unless it’s season on the line. Like play defense like older Duncan or even AD last night. They still defend the paint, but we don’t need the risky plays.


So you're going to tell a great player to not use his instincts and natural abilities, and expect him to still be the same player? Unfortunately, Embiid is what he is, and you live and die with it as long as he's here.

Embiid himself said something like he doesn’t try those plays much in the regular season, so he can clearly control it. I don’t think it’s that crazy an ask. Especially when the alternative is him getting hurt every series.

Think of it like quarterbacks learning to slide instead of taking the extra hit. Plenty of QBs that run eventually learn sometimes you don’t need the extra yard and it’s better to slide or get out of bounds.
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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#144 » by kuclas » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:43 am

It doesn’t matter if embiid plays too much in regular season or not.

He was pretty healthy entering the playoffs the last 3 post seasons including this post season

All the injuries happens in game 3 of each of the last 3 post seasons on the way to 3-0 commanding first round series victories. Actually the wizards series embiid was injured very early in game 4 in 2021 playoffs and sixers lost that game 4.

So you can keep embiid in a bubble all your want in the regular season. His injuries have occurred during the playoffs.
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Post#145 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:46 am

I'm just going to hold out hope that we can give Boston all they can handle even without Embiid. I'm completely against playing him in this series with the lcl sprain. It's just not a good idea.

Let's just see what these guys can do without him. The New York Knicks made the Finals as an 8th seed in 1999 and they did it without Patrick Ewing who was injured for a good portion of the season.
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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#146 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:49 am

FireMorey wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
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If it's grade 2 that's a 4-6 week injury. Which means he either misses the whole series or plays the whole series limping around and moping.


Listen, I know you're bitter and want to tear it down, but please stop with the 'moping' foolishness. If he's got a 4-6 week injury, that's the issue.


Embiid is known for pouting and sulking whenever he's not 100% and doesn't feel well, let's not pretend like he isn't.

It's irritating to watch when he does it. If you're too hurt or unwell to play then don't play. But playing and moping up and down the court has big loser vibes and rubs off poorly on your teammates. I'd rather he not play at all than play and pout for the entire game.


You're absolutely right about this. We don't need an injured Embiid out there. He's simply not the same guy when he plays hurt. Probably the most dominant player in the game at full health, but when he's hurt, he's one of the biggest downers and a complete liability from a mental standpoint. He really, truly needs to sit this out.
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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#147 » by Bum Adebayo » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:00 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I'm just going to hold out hope that we can give Boston all they can handle even without Embiid. I'm completely against playing him in this series with the lcl sprain. It's just not a good idea.

Let's just see what these guys can do without him. The New York Knicks made the Finals as an 8th seed in 1999 and they did it without Patrick Ewing who was injured for a good portion of the season.


I don't want to be second round fodder again though, there is no fun in that.
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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#148 » by Eyeamok » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:03 am

I could be wrong but don't we seem to have this conversation or something similar every playoff season?

Of course you know what will happen the 76ers will lose 2 games in Boston. Then come back home. Embiid will play game 3 and the 76ers will win. Fans will say ok now we will tie it up. Go back to Boston with Embiid tied 2-2 and we will see what will happen. But invariably the 76ers will lose game four on their home court and that my friends will be the series. Another season of what if's
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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#149 » by Bum Adebayo » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:08 am

I've defended Embiid a lot in this forum, but I think it's just time to rebuild. The process was all about perennial contending and avoiding being a treadmill team, but with Embiid we are a treadmill team, with his amazing performance in RS we are a very good team there, but due to his injuries in first round of playoffs, we are always beaten in second round. That's treadmill status right there.
Of course right now his value will be lower, but we can just increase his trade value before the next trade deadline.
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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#150 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:41 am

Bum Adebayo wrote:I've defended Embiid a lot in this forum, but I think it's just time to rebuild. The process was all about perennial contending and avoiding being a treadmill team, but with Embiid we are a treadmill team, with his amazing performance in RS we are a very good team there, but due to his injuries in first round of playoffs, we are always beaten in second round. That's treadmill status right there.
Of course right now his value will be lower, but we can just increase his trade value before the next trade deadline.


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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#151 » by 76ciology » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:46 am

Not yet for this discussion. Let’s try our best to beat Boston first.

If there’s one thing about this playoff is a lot of things opposite happened from what everyone expected.

Draymond suspended, GSW won.
Dejounte suspended, ATL won.
Heat beat the Bucks
No gentleman’s sweep from Celts and they look like mortals
Kings about to beat warriors
Deaaron fox broke finger, they win next game

Hell, Nuggets beat the Suns in G1
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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#152 » by XtremeDunkz » Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:49 am

I don't care what happens. I want Embiid to retire a Sixer. I want number 21 in the rafters one day. I'd never trade him.

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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#153 » by Sixteen » Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:56 am

I'm already checked out and now I want to see the Suns or Lakers win it all. People crap on our team and our fans way too much and with embiid always getting injured when it counts, it's not even fun anymore.
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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#154 » by Kova » Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:07 am

Lol, I see at least 50% of posters already packing up our bags and blowing it up.. What are you even doing here??

Anyway, if Jo can't go, I see Reed as a huge X-factor! Celtics can have all the game plans in the world, but they don't have a game plan for Reed because his hustle, length, agility is completely unpredictable. Hell, this guy sometimes disrupts our plays, let alone opposition. He can create a complete havoc on the floor and have a huge impact. As crazy as it sounds, Boston knows how to set up their game against Embiid, but not against Reed. At least not for 1 game.
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Post#155 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:30 am

Yeah I'm not ready to call it quits just because Embiid is hurt. Nor am I ready for us to trade him. We're going to be fine.
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Post#156 » by phillynative » Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:36 am

If Reed starts who will be the back up center? Tucker, Dedmon or Harrel?

I would look to try small ball 5 Tucker with McDaniels and House on the wings. Spread the floor and see if Maxey , Melton and House can attack.

If small ball doesn't work I would go with Dedmon for size and rebounding to battle with williams who's a handful. I'm not sure Harrel or Niang works in this series.
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Post#157 » by Bum Adebayo » Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:12 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Yeah I'm not ready to call it quits just because Embiid is hurt. Nor am I ready for us to trade him. We're going to be fine.


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Post#158 » by eyeatoma » Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:51 am

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Yeah I'm not ready to call it quits just because Embiid is hurt. Nor am I ready for us to trade him. We're going to be fine.


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Re: Boston in the 2nd round. How do the 76ers win the series? 

Post#159 » by Eyeamok » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:24 pm

Kova wrote:Lol, I see at least 50% of posters already packing up our bags and blowing it up.. What are you even doing here??

Anyway, if Jo can't go, I see Reed as a huge X-factor! Celtics can have all the game plans in the world, but they don't have a game plan for Reed because his hustle, length, agility is completely unpredictable. Hell, this guy sometimes disrupts our plays, let alone opposition. He can create a complete havoc on the floor and have a huge impact. As crazy as it sounds, Boston knows how to set up their game against Embiid, but not against Reed. At least not for 1 game.


Kova I'm a big Reed fan. I wanted him to play more since last season. But expecting him to play and be productive in the 2nd round is asking a lot especially against Boston and their experience. We need Harden to up his game, Maxey to not wilt and now Reed to step in and be the starting center. Wow that's a lot for one game let alone a series.
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Post#160 » by phillynative » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:24 pm

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