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NBA PLAYOFFS: Round 2 l Game 1: (4) Phoenix Suns @ (1) Denver Nuggets l Saturday l 5:30pm l TNT

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Honest answer no bias, who wins in how many games?

Nuggets in 4
1
2%
Suns in 4
4
8%
Nuggets in 5
3
6%
Suns in 5
1
2%
Nuggets in 6
7
14%
Suns in 6
21
42%
Nuggets in 7
4
8%
Suns in 7
9
18%
 
Total votes: 50

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Post#521 » by SkyBill40 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:06 am

Revived wrote:Even with the footage of Ayton posted earlier, I’ll say this loss isn’t mostly on Ayton. We have had losses where you can clearly point to him but this isn’t it.

This is on Monty. Suns have no rhyme or rhythm to what they’re doing defensively and there’s zero plays being run offensively just iso chucks. Very few 3pt attempts and again he has no idea who to play off the bench.

Monty should’ve been fired after losing by 60 to the Mavs last season. I hope Ishbia’s stupid ass can see this and fires him because that’s the only way he’ll get any chance at a ROI on his stupid ass trade.

And back to the Ayton front, Ayton should never have been brought back after he beefed with Monty who is a terrible HC but is a super likable coach by basically every player in the league except DA apparently. That should’ve been a clue. And considering how much Ayton gets yelled at by even the Suns players themselves like Booker/Durant/Craig/Bridges (when he was here)/Payne etc on the court, he’s not well liked in the locker room either. Nobody in the NBA respects him as evidenced by Mitchell Robinson trolling him on IG earlier this season calling him soft.

Matching his contract was stupid as hell. And now we’re stuck with him because nobody wants this big of a contract unless they can dump a bad contract of their own.


I'll go with you as this wasn't solely on Ayton, but he sure had a HEAP of moments that make everyone point fingers and scream obscenities at him from afar. That said, undoubtedly, this is on Williams. He has once again failed to use the personnel available effectively, failed to call time outs to break up Denver's momentum, and been passive in his demeanor from the bench. It's pretty clear he isn't ever going to be the guy who coaches a team to a title. Hell, I think we would have been better off with Willie Green.
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Post#522 » by Jdiddy701 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:06 am

Suns lose, it’s always on Monty. Gotta love this board lol


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Post#523 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:07 am

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He could give Kyle Lowry a run for his money.

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Post#524 » by TeamTragic » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:07 am

Jdiddy701 wrote:Suns lose, it’s always on Monty. Gotta love this board lol

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Nope. This is a team loss however Monty **** blows.
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Post#525 » by RaisingArizona » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:08 am

Revived wrote:
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Revived wrote:Dude shouldn’t you be worried about getting curb stomped by the Heat? If there’s a bigger pssy than Ayton in basketball, it’s Julius Randle.


I'm not a Nuggets fan, just watching the game like millions of people in America. Where did I trash the Suns? All I gave was a prediction. If you think the Heat beat the Knicks, cool. That's called an opinion.

And you’re not a Suns fan either. Your prediction neither your “I told you so” to Quigglez is welcome here while we’re in the middle of a loss.

I got a 12 hr banned on the Bucks forum for saying Crowder sucks recently but this dude and few other idiots are allowed to roam around on our forum without issue? Lilfishi/Quigglez/Bwgood really guys?


Same bro. I have been banned from the GB for lesser offenses. Suns always getting the short end of the stick..Even the fans
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Post#526 » by Frank Lee » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:08 am

KennyJet banging on our bench

SPEAK!

They are spelling it all out accurately.




Nice summary up there Revived
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Post#527 » by TeamTragic » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:09 am

Frank Lee wrote:KennyJet banging on our bench

SPEAK!


Low hanging fruit. We know that our bench is not great.
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Post#528 » by kennydorglas » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:09 am

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Post#529 » by kennydorglas » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:10 am

Frank Lee wrote:KennyJet banging on our bench

SPEAK!

They are spelling it all out accurately.




Nice summary up there Revived


Thats what happens when u BLATANTLY dont play our 3 most qualified bench players.
Not sure what's happening on this team tbh
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Post#530 » by Jdiddy701 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:11 am

TeamTragic wrote:
Jdiddy701 wrote:Suns lose, it’s always on Monty. Gotta love this board lol

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Nope. This is a team loss however Monty **** blows.

Says literally every fan after their team loses. The players have to play better, period.


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Post#531 » by AtheJ415 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:11 am

Jdiddy701 wrote:Suns lose, it’s always on Monty. Gotta love this board lol


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What part of a gameplan that has Durant and Book on your team shoot a whopping 5 first half 3s is worthwhile? Name something about his game plan that was actually good. Did we ever make Denver uncomfortable whatsoever?
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Post#532 » by Sunsfan03 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:12 am

Its not that hard, just get athletic guys that can crash the board and can switch.

- Book
- KD
- Ayton
- CP3 (reduced minutes at higher intensity)
- Cam Payne
- Craig
- Okogie
- TJ
- Wainright (to foul the crap off their guys)
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Post#533 » by Frank Lee » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:12 am

Has there been a Matt Ish sighting at any of these games?
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Post#534 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:13 am

I don't like blaming coaches because he isn't the one out there missing shots, not taking shots etc you know the execution part of things. But Monty has the take a giant wad of blame for once again not preparing the team to match the Nuggets offense.

Like in what world does he think we could win a playoff game against one of the best offenses in the league with our starters taking a combined 10 threes and Chris Paul accounting for half of that? In comparison, the Nuggets starters took 28....... 28!
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Post#535 » by Sunsfan03 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:13 am

Gotta stop playing shamet and d.Lee. They too soft to slow Denver down
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Post#536 » by RaisingArizona » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:14 am

Frank Lee wrote:Has there been a Matt Ish sighting at any of these games?

He was at the last home game with Izzo and Isiah Thomas
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Post#537 » by RaisingArizona » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:15 am

Wainwright on Gordon is interesting. I would try that out before Landry godawful Shamet saw that floor
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Post#538 » by bigfoot » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:19 am



Option 1: Suns uniforms are very heavy
Option 2: Gravitational pull in Tucson is significantly lower than the rest of the US
Option 3: His feet are so big someone nearby is always standing on them
Option 4: Any physical feat by DA requires at least 5 seconds of mental warm-up
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Post#539 » by Slim Charless » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:20 am

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... but typical from an Ayton defender. Dude has been getting wrecked ALL NIGHT by Jokic, not to mention just standing around and not even trying to rebound.


What do you mean? I'm on your side. Didn't you see the part where I said Ayton needs to die and that I hate him? It's in capital letters. Maybe I needed to bold it and put it in red or something.

But yeah, anyways let's rush the team hotel and murder Ayton before game 2. That way everything will be fixed and the Suns will go on and not lose a single game ever again in life.

Serious question Slim, do you truly believe we choose to specifically block out DA from our view? ie We watch both teams play but somehow are blind to DA on the court and we're just making up lies?


I've said this numerous times but I agree with you guys AYTON NEEDS TO GO. That won't solve the root of the problem which is Monty. We got very lucky in the last round as the Clips were starting to expose us as well. He is a disaster of a head coach and all of this could've been different had he been canned last year after Dallas...or earlier back in Jan. I'm really not against you guys, I just don't think you see the full picture.

That leads me to answer you question. I think there was a built up anger here after the Ayton/Luka debacle and how the 2 players look so some posters remain pissed and will jump on DA for anything he does or doesn't do. Anything short of Hakeem or Shaq would've been seen as a failure. Ayton isn't Luka and that is the problem for most of those people.

Like I've said though, this well is poisoned and Ayton needs to be traded whenever our season ends unless it ends in a championship. Probably even in that situation too.
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Post#540 » by kennydorglas » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:22 am

AtheJ415 wrote:
kennydorglas wrote:We're LITERALLY refusing to take 3's.
Its CRAZY


I'm no Jason Kidd fan but he generates a ton of 3s with 1 less efficient supserstar than the 2 we have. Monty's entire gampelan should be geared around 3s for players in THIS order: Book / Durant, Lee, CP3, Ross, or dunks for Ayton / BIyombo.

Instead we get push shot floaters from our bigs or contested 2s for our guys and it only works b/c those guys are historically good at those contested 2s.

You cannot just ignore math and win this series. It shrinks the margin of error so very much. Suns will not shoot better form 2 the rest of the way. They either will defend and start paying attention to 3s and the value of offensive rebounds or they are going home with the most talent on the roster YET AGAIN.


Its interesting bc Kidd got killed in Milwaukee for this 1x1 offense in the playoffs.
Mark Jackson the same.

They had enough and got somewhat "innovators" coaches to change their dynamic.

(and to be fair with Kidd, he actually developed A LOT as a coach in Dallas)
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