2023 Draft Discussion Part 4

[Yallbecrazy]

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If all we want is someone who gets buckets and doesn't do anything else, might as well just get the tallest player who can do so in Brice.

Maybe he'll learn how to pass like Derozan in his later years..... But Derozan locked himself in the gym every summer working on his game. Haven't read anything about Brice's work ethic (or lack thereof).

But this Podziemski name keeps appearing. I'm becoming way more interested in him now than Keyonte/Nick Smith Jr

A couple of us having been screaming his name for months, he's in my top 10.

[Dalek]

Flynn was an analytic darling, too. Didn't work out here and Bane is salt in the wound because the Raptors liked him and chose Flynn. Tillman isn't anything special. Grizzlies just got humiliated by a play-in team. Great coach covering up for a lot of frauds.

Flynn had one good analytical season. Bane had 2 or 3 years at TCU, and Tillman was one all 3 of his seasons at Michigan State.

I see what you're saying, but Tillman played like 300 minutes as a freshman. If not for several injuries we're not even talking about him right now, and still it's weird to talk positively about a player that was getting major minutes in a playoff flop.

The so-called playoff flop is more on Ja and JJJ the guys who are supposed to carry the team. But I don't even call it that. They were just two teams trending in opposite directions coming in. Ja suffered a crazy wrist injury that changed the series.

Tillman wrapped up a 6 game series where he averaged 9 and 8 and 3 assists against a hall of fame defender. He had a 22 and 13 game in which he practically led the team to victory without Ja. Those are steps of growth towards a big next contract and definitely outplayed his value as a second rounder.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Podziemski has a better chance of hitting Jalen Hood-Schifino's ceiling than Jalen Hood-Schifino has of hitting his own ceiling.

[Dalek]

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Jalen Hood Schifino is the Bobby pick and I know it because he would probably annoy the Boatd the most. Big guard with excellent passing and poised. He has a nice mid range game and seeing that he can draw some fouls is a good selling point. Weird he has a low FTR but I guess in late clock scenarios he gets to the line.

I will say for the big guard debate it is weird how far apart JHS and Anthony Black are. Should they be closer in rank?

[HumbleRen]

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Jalen Hood Schifino is the Bobby pick and I know it because he would probably annoy the Boatd the most. Big guard with excellent passing and poised. He has a nice mid range game and seeing that he can draw some fouls is a good selling point. Weird he has a low FTR but I guess in late clock scenarios he gets to the line.

I will say for the big guard debate it is weird how far apart JHS and Anthony Black are. Should they be closer in rank?

What separates JHS and AB the most is their defence.

It's a pretty big gap on that end.

[billy_hoyle]

What position is Cam Whitmore? To me he looks like he can play the 2/3.

Is he the Mathurin type we need? Or is his handle too weak? Seems explosive to me.

He fits an archetype that I prefer. Can we trade a wing (likely OG, possibly Siakam) to get a pick for him?

[dozo]

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There's plenty of names that could fit here: Jalen Slawson, Colby Jones, Leonard Miller. But for my money I'm going with Gonzaga's Julian Strawther. Averaging 15.2 points while shooting 47% from the floor and 41% from beyond the arc on good volume, it's beyond me why he isn't a consensus first-round grade.

Other names mentioned: Bates,Podz,McCullar Jr.,Bobi Klintman, DaRon Holmes,Terrence Shannon Jr.

[Spates]

I'm sticking with Terquavion Smith. He's really good. His issue will be shot selection. If you believe in your player development he'd be a fantastic pickup.

I think he's a sleeper for sure. Could end up being one of the better guards in the draft if he goes to the right situation.

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Made Kaulkbrenner look like a dweeb. That lefty dunk/block sequence at the end is a more impressive highlight than most of these prospects have.

He has some De'Aaron Fox like qualities to his game, but I just can't get over his efficiency. Higher on Bufkin when it comes to the combo guards in this draft.

I think it's fine to look beyond the numbers when it comes to certain prospects. If you look at some of the 3's he's taking you'll quickly notice that they're ridiculous. He's got range and confidence but there's no need for him to be so far out. It's hubris. Interviews are important. If you talk to this kid and he's bright, coachable, with a good mind for the game then you have a potential big name player. He moves well and can finish at the rim with a high degree of difficulty. He's got twitchy athleticism that keeps defenders at bay.

[Spates]

Taylor Hendricks, Cason Wallace, or Sidy Sissoko. Best outside of the top 5.

I'm sticking with Terquavion Smith. He's really good. His issue will be shot selection. If you believe in your player development he'd be a fantastic pickup.

I'm off Hendricks. My focus would be acquiring players with a high feel for the game. Specialists and toolsy prospects would be secondary to building he team of bright basketball players.

I like Jalen Hood-Schifino. There's something about him that makes me hesitate but he's undeniably talented and his ability to get into open space gives me confidence he'll improve with reps and experience. I'd be highly concerned if he expects to be ball dominant. I think he could be a lethal secondary handler.

[aligator]

I admit to not having seen some of the possible picks at 13 but have read pretty much all there is on any of them. At this point, Sissoko is my guy. I imagine, however that Raps will be heavily influenced by the combine so is hard to predict. With the extra 2 way now available and no 2nds as of now, I would like to see at least 3 UDFAs signed. There is no need to bring any borderline vets to camp.

[Dalek]

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There's plenty of names that could fit here: Jalen Slawson, Colby Jones, Leonard Miller. But for my money I'm going with Gonzaga's Julian Strawther. Averaging 15.2 points while shooting 47% from the floor and 41% from beyond the arc on good volume, it's beyond me why he isn't a consensus first-round grade.

Other names mentioned: Bates,Podz,McCullar Jr.,Bobi Klintman, DaRon Holmes,Terrence Shannon Jr.

Cool that someone mentioned Strawther. I honestly don't think there isn't a way to become a rotation and possibly a starting NBA player in time depending on the situation.

He is the modern wing where he can grab a board and start the break and then spot up as the trailer.

He has hit a lot of clutch shots and generally has made steady progress over his college years. Rewatching the UConn loss he was even attacking the rim showing some decent handle and taking contact.

On defense he does have good feet and contests. See him as a better effort Jett Howard.

[Psubs]

Flynn had one good analytical season. Bane had 2 or 3 years at TCU, and Tillman was one all 3 of his seasons at Michigan State.

I see what you're saying, but Tillman played like 300 minutes as a freshman. If not for several injuries we're not even talking about him right now, and still it's weird to talk positively about a player that was getting major minutes in a playoff flop.

The so-called playoff flop is more on Ja and JJJ the guys who are supposed to carry the team. But I don't even call it that. They were just two teams trending in opposite directions coming in. Ja suffered a crazy wrist injury that changed the series.

Tillman wrapped up a 6 game series where he averaged 9 and 8 and 3 assists against a hall of fame defender. He had a 22 and 13 game in which he practically led the team to victory without Ja. Those are steps of growth towards a big next contract and definitely outplayed his value as a second rounder.

Steven Adams was missed in this series.

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I think he's a sleeper for sure. Could end up being one of the better guards in the draft if he goes to the right situation.

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Made Kaulkbrenner look like a dweeb. That lefty dunk/block sequence at the end is a more impressive highlight than most of these prospects have.

He has some De'Aaron Fox like qualities to his game, but I just can't get over his efficiency. Higher on Bufkin when it comes to the combo guards in this draft.

I think it's fine to look beyond the numbers when it comes to certain prospects. If you look at some of the 3's he's taking you'll quickly notice that they're ridiculous. He's got range and confidence but there's no need for him to be so far out. It's hubris. Interviews are important. If you talk to this kid and he's bright, coachable, with a good mind for the game then you have a potential big name player. He moves well and can finish at the rim with a high degree of difficulty. He's got twitchy athleticism that keeps defenders at bay.

That's why I liked him. Maybe he's like a Jordan Poole? Sidy, Terq and Emoni Bates really don't consider where the 3-pt line is.

[Spates]

He has some De'Aaron Fox like qualities to his game, but I just can't get over his efficiency. Higher on Bufkin when it comes to the combo guards in this draft.

I think it's fine to look beyond the numbers when it comes to certain prospects. If you look at some of the 3's he's taking you'll quickly notice that they're ridiculous. He's got range and confidence but there's no need for him to be so far out. It's hubris. Interviews are important. If you talk to this kid and he's bright, coachable, with a good mind for the game then you have a potential big name player. He moves well and can finish at the rim with a high degree of difficulty. He's got twitchy athleticism that keeps defenders at bay.

That's why I liked him. Maybe he's like a Jordan Poole? Sidy, Terq and Emoni Bates really don't consider where the 3-pt line is.

What do you think of Bilal Coulibaly? I like what I've seen but footage is limited on YouTube.

[Appostis]

Is seeing Terrence Davis out there on this Kings shooting two back-to-back three-point shots in a game 7 kind of stinging for anyone else?

[BoyzNTheHood]

Is seeing Terrence Davis out there on this Kings shooting two back-to-back three-point shots in a game 7 kind of stinging for anyone else?

Not at all

[Appostis]

Is seeing Terrence Davis out there on this Kings shooting two back-to-back three-point shots in a game 7 kind of stinging for anyone else?

Not at all

How about 3 for 4?

[BoyzNTheHood]

Is seeing Terrence Davis out there on this Kings shooting two back-to-back three-point shots in a game 7 kind of stinging for anyone else?

Not at all

How about 3 for 4?

One good game doesn’t change anything

[Appostis]

Not at all

How about 3 for 4?

One good game doesn’t change anything

Game 7 and he's had multiple 20+ games.

[BoyzNTheHood]

How about 3 for 4?

One good game doesn’t change anything

Game 7 and he's had multiple 20+ games.

Complain all you want. We made a good choice letting him go