2023 Draft Discussion Part 4

[Grew]

One good game doesn’t change anything

Game 7 and he's had multiple 20+ games.

Complain all you want. We made a good choice letting him go

Made the choice based on non basketball things. I wouldn't call that a good choice, especially when he plays a role we needed on our bench this season. Let's move into the top 4 in this draft and we can say it was a good move.

[dozo]

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Too much lift for a centre, in game fatigue will impact his shooting flow. All in all good shooting form, looks like a 2 way centre.

[Yallbecrazy]

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Too much lift for a centre, in game fatigue will impact his shooting flow. All in all good shooting form, looks like a 2 way centre.

Decent stats, nothing outlier though. Also pretty weak competition.

[NotMyKawhi]

I'll take Jr, George, Jett, Jalen, Jordan, GG or Jones

[BoyzNTheHood]

Game 7 and he's had multiple 20+ games.

Complain all you want. We made a good choice letting him go

Made the choice based on non basketball things. I wouldn't call that a good choice, especially when he plays a role we needed on our bench this season. Let's move into the top 4 in this draft and we can say it was a good move.

We have to move into the top 4 to validate letting *checks notes* Terrence Davis go? Whatever you say boss

[ill-Will03]

Man having a movement shooter is critical in the nba. I really feel like Hawkins may be the one that fits our team best, if they truly still wish to compete. He’s exactly what this team is missing

[BoyzNTheHood]

Man having a movement shooting is critical in the nba. I really feel like Hawkins may be the one that fits our team best, if they truly still wish to compete. He’s exactly what this team is missing

Basically anyone who’s been a good shooter that’s also good at moving off the ball has provided value to their team. The high end is Steph Curry and the low end is JJ Redick. If you come out with JJ Redick type of impact at 13, are you happy? I’d say I’d be content with it. The best thing is, even if Hawkins is 0 for his last 50 shots you still have to guard him. You can’t say that about a lot of the guys we have now. And we’ve definitely never had a guy who runs like Hawkins. His defender would use a ton of energy just chasing him around even if he doesn’t shoot.

[ItsDanger]

Hawkins has value when the offense is team oriented. The Raps, as currently constructed, do NOT play that style.

[Grew]

Complain all you want. We made a good choice letting him go

Made the choice based on non basketball things. I wouldn't call that a good choice, especially when he plays a role we needed on our bench this season. Let's move into the top 4 in this draft and we can say it was a good move.

We have to move into the top 4 to validate letting *checks notes* Terrence Davis go? Whatever you say boss

Ok it was a bad move made for PR reasons. Simple as that then.

[ill-Will03]

Man having a movement shooting is critical in the nba. I really feel like Hawkins may be the one that fits our team best, if they truly still wish to compete. He’s exactly what this team is missing

Basically anyone who’s been a good shooter that’s also good at moving off the ball has provided value to their team. The high end is Steph Curry and the low end is JJ Redick. If you come out with JJ Redick type of impact at 13, are you happy? I’d say I’d be content with it. The best thing is, even if Hawkins is 0 for his last 50 shots you still have to guard him. You can’t say that about a lot of the guys we have now. And we’ve definitely never had a guy who runs like Hawkins. His defender would use a ton of energy just chasing him around even if he doesn’t shoot.

Yeah I mean he definitely doesn’t have the highest upside, but like you said if you end up with a JJ type player at 13 you’d love that.

It’s highly possible we miss out on a superstar type player by going with Hawkins But I guess that’s the problems you have to deal with when your in the middle like the raptors.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Made the choice based on non basketball things. I wouldn't call that a good choice, especially when he plays a role we needed on our bench this season. Let's move into the top 4 in this draft and we can say it was a good move.

We have to move into the top 4 to validate letting *checks notes* Terrence Davis go? Whatever you say boss

Ok it was a bad move made for PR reasons. Simple as that then.

Terrence Davis barely made an impact on the game. He’s not doing anything special for Sacramento either. Negative BPM, mediocre TS%. There are a lot of Terrence Davis’ walking around pro courts. The biggest impact he could have made was maybe allowing us to lose to Miami instead of Chicago for the play-in.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Man having a movement shooting is critical in the nba. I really feel like Hawkins may be the one that fits our team best, if they truly still wish to compete. He’s exactly what this team is missing

Basically anyone who’s been a good shooter that’s also good at moving off the ball has provided value to their team. The high end is Steph Curry and the low end is JJ Redick. If you come out with JJ Redick type of impact at 13, are you happy? I’d say I’d be content with it. The best thing is, even if Hawkins is 0 for his last 50 shots you still have to guard him. You can’t say that about a lot of the guys we have now. And we’ve definitely never had a guy who runs like Hawkins. His defender would use a ton of energy just chasing him around even if he doesn’t shoot.

Yeah I mean he definitely doesn’t have the highest upside, but like you said if you end up with a JJ type player at 13 you’d love that.

It’s highly possible we miss out on a superstar type player by going with Hawkins But I guess that’s the problems you have to deal with when your in the middle like the raptors.

There are guys I like more than him, but I wouldn’t be mad if he’s the pick.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Huge steal potential. Kind of like Vando

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[Grew]

We have to move into the top 4 to validate letting *checks notes* Terrence Davis go? Whatever you say boss

Ok it was a bad move made for PR reasons. Simple as that then.

Terrence Davis barely made an impact on the game. He’s not doing anything special for Sacramento either. Negative BPM, mediocre TS%. There are a lot of Terrence Davis’ walking around pro courts. The biggest impact he could have made was maybe allowing us to lose to Miami instead of Chicago for the play-in.

There really aren't that many big guards with that level of athletic ability that shoot above average from 3. We were missing guard depth, 3pt shooting and slashing this year, all things he brings to the table. If we had someone to reliably spell Fred while being able to play off ball so Scottie and Pascal could be more effective as point forwards, the entire season could have gone differently.

We sit here only hoping we can draft someone with more natural gifts than TD with the 13th pick. Players having impact is about development, and we gave up on a kid with potential for the wrong reasons.

[grant101]

Huge steal potential. Kind of like Vando

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Agreed that he's a steal, though I see more Looney than Vando. Like i mentioned a couple months back, i think Holmes goes on to have a better career than most of the players picked before him. He's so solid and really good at big man stuff.

[grant101]

Ok it was a bad move made for PR reasons. Simple as that then.

Terrence Davis barely made an impact on the game. He’s not doing anything special for Sacramento either. Negative BPM, mediocre TS%. There are a lot of Terrence Davis’ walking around pro courts. The biggest impact he could have made was maybe allowing us to lose to Miami instead of Chicago for the play-in.

There really aren't that many big guards with that level of athletic ability that shoot above average from 3. We were missing guard depth, 3pt shooting and slashing this year, all things he brings to the table. If we had someone to reliably spell Fred while being able to play off ball so Scottie and Pascal could be more effective as point forwards, the entire season could have gone differently.

We sit here only hoping we can draft someone with more natural gifts than TD with the 13th pick. Players having impact is about development, and we gave up on a kid with potential for the wrong reasons.

This is revisionist history. Completely ignores his poor effort, selfish, and consistently boneheaded play. Whatever he gives you shooting wise, he gives up on defense and turnovers.

[ItsDanger]

If you have 10+ coaches on the payroll, you'd expect them to get players to minimize unforced errors and mistakes. Otherwise, why are they there?

[HumbleRen]

People lamenting over TD3 when he was a large reason on why the Kings lost the game lol.

[Grew]

People lamenting over TD3 when he was a large reason on why the Kings lost the game lol.

Kings lost that game starting in the 3rd with Looney dominating Sabonis on the glass. Fox with 4 fouls didn't help either. Also Curry dropped 50 on them.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Ok it was a bad move made for PR reasons. Simple as that then.

Terrence Davis barely made an impact on the game. He’s not doing anything special for Sacramento either. Negative BPM, mediocre TS%. There are a lot of Terrence Davis’ walking around pro courts. The biggest impact he could have made was maybe allowing us to lose to Miami instead of Chicago for the play-in.

There really aren't that many big guards with that level of athletic ability that shoot above average from 3. We were missing guard depth, 3pt shooting and slashing this year, all things he brings to the table. If we had someone to reliably spell Fred while being able to play off ball so Scottie and Pascal could be more effective as point forwards, the entire season could have gone differently.

We sit here only hoping we can draft someone with more natural gifts than TD with the 13th pick. Players having impact is about development, and we gave up on a kid with potential for the wrong reasons.

The fact that you’re complaining about letting Terrence Davis go says a lot. Both about where we are as an organization, and where you are when evaluating talent. He is not a game changer in any way besides hitting a few shots here and there on occasion. You call him an above average 3 point shooter, when he’s not that. His best shooting season was his first year with us, since then he’s been regressing.

He was a moron who cut a hole in his mask during the biggest pandemic in the last 50 years, but that’s not why he isn’t on this team. He provided nothing worthy of keeping him around much longer than we did. He had all the potential in the world and went undrafted, then proceeded to have a mediocre career to this point. There’s a reason he is where he is.