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The Big Question... Would you want A-Rod?

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Post#21 » by krustytheclown » Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:18 pm

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Like who? I'd like some names. Of course the Yankees could offer Hughes, Joba and Cano, but they won't. Don't tell me Gomez and Milledge, they can't bring back nearly the return that Cano, an elite 2B, can.

And THWS, I don't think Melky is anything special hitting wise right now. But I think he has some upside. His arm is deadly and I think he can hit 20 HRs in his prime.


the angels have kids to offer up...as do the dodgers, tigers(not that they need a 3b) the cubs(aramis and pie maybe)
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Post#22 » by Manhattan Project » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:06 pm

I think it would take a farm of prospects to land Cabrera mainly because of how hard it actually is to trade a guy like him. He is one of the most potent bats in baseball. Imagine if the Angels ever paired Vlad with respectable protection. Im sure Moreno would finally pay someone more then Vlad if they had a chance at him.

Yankees would need to come with more because what does Cano provide the Marlins? They have Uggla. What does Cabrera offer the Marlins? Thats where OF prospects go to die.
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Post#23 » by gooGD » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:04 pm

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Like who? I'd like some names. Of course the Yankees could offer Hughes, Joba and Cano, but they won't. Don't tell me Gomez and Milledge, they can't bring back nearly the return that Cano, an elite 2B, can.

And THWS, I don't think Melky is anything special hitting wise right now. But I think he has some upside. His arm is deadly and I think he can hit 20 HRs in his prime.


I agree. If the Yankees wanted ANY player in baseball they could have him with the talent in Joba/Hughes/Cano and even Kennedy.
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Post#24 » by krustytheclown » Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:42 pm

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I agree. If the Yankees wanted ANY player in baseball they could have him with the talent in Joba/Hughes/Cano and even Kennedy.


but they wont trade them so its a moot point
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Post#25 » by Lord Commander » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:10 pm

A-Rod wants to make a splash with a contender. What better place than with his alleged childhood team that has the money, the players, the endorsement opportunities, the new stadium, its own network. All that's missing on this team is a bonafide superstar. COME ON FREDDY WILPON - DON'T BITCH OUT NOW!!!
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Post#26 » by mjhp911 » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:40 pm

Meh, I'd rather use our resources on getting some decent starting pitching.
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Post#27 » by Lord Commander » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:18 pm

mjhp911 wrote:Meh, I'd rather use our resources on getting some decent starting pitching.


We have the money for both. If we don't get A-Rod it will be because management doesn't want the stigma of having the highest payroll or being fiscally irresponsible. If I were Omar/Wilpon, my proposal would be simple. A-Rod, you want it all? Here's 350 mil. and a first baseman's mit. That or see if Wright can play first. Then find a way to get rid of Delgado. I'd probably still have enough chips for a front rotation starter.
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Post#28 » by Jose7 » Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:48 pm

Hell yes but it sucks that Wilpon won't open up his wallet.
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Post#29 » by gooGD » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:11 pm

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Post#30 » by krustytheclown » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:25 am

just throwing this out there...

sign arod
trade reyes for santana

although between the 2 of them it would be atleast 500 million in salary
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Post#31 » by YungNeef » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:05 pm

As much as I would like Santana, I'm not willing to give up Reyes for him. If Wright is still willing(hope he wasn't just saying it) to move, I think we have a good chance to get ARod if the Wilpons let us. This is our second and likely final chance to get the best player in baseball that wanted to be a Met before, hopefully we take it this time.
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Post#32 » by bringinhinkie » Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:52 am

marbury2curry wrote:trade reyes


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Post#33 » by S.I.C. GM » Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:25 pm

marbury2curry wrote:just throwing this out there...

sign arod
trade reyes for santana

although between the 2 of them it would be atleast 500 million in salary


I am for signing A-Rod.

I dont understand why everyone is worried about Wright. Wright is fine where he is. I would move reyes to second. Telling A-rod and his shark that A-Rod would have his natural position back is a better bargaining chip anyway. He can compete with Jeter again.

Reyes needs a wake up call after the way he played the end of last season. Reyes lost all his star status by sucking it up towards the end of last year.
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Post#34 » by YungNeef » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:17 pm

Moving Reyes to 2nd again is not a good move. I honestly think Reyes tired out towards the end of the year. I like that they can play a lot, but Willie needs to at least give him and Wright a few days off.
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Post#35 » by gooGD » Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:03 pm

it JUST doesnt make good sense for our team. Unless Arod wants to play first base, theres no incentive to sign him to play third.

WHY would I move Wright for a guy who plays crappier defense, older, has a even spottier history with throws to first base just because he is "arod?"

If we offer him 10/300, hes going to have to play first base for us. There is no exception to this, thats what I would say if I was omar/wilpons. I'm NOT moving reyes to 2nd for again, a guy who is 32, less range, and I could keep going on.

I don't see arod getting 10/300 Its just too much for me imo. I can see teams offering 7-8 years for 28-30 mil but, I just don't think we'll see a commitment of 300 million to Arod. I don't care abotu Boras' projections for the market and how much money teams will make off arod.

I'll take a pass unless Arod agrees to play first base, which makes Delgado expendable for peanuts.
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Post#36 » by bringinhinkie » Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:08 am

gooGD wrote:it JUST doesnt make good sense for our team. Unless Arod wants to play first base, theres no incentive to sign him to play third.

WHY would I move Wright for a guy who plays crappier defense, older, has a even spottier history with throws to first base just because he is "arod?"

If we offer him 10/300, hes going to have to play first base for us. There is no exception to this, thats what I would say if I was omar/wilpons. I'm NOT moving reyes to 2nd for again, a guy who is 32, less range, and I could keep going on.

I don't see arod getting 10/300 Its just too much for me imo. I can see teams offering 7-8 years for 28-30 mil but, I just don't think we'll see a commitment of 300 million to Arod. I don't care abotu Boras' projections for the market and how much money teams will make off arod.

I'll take a pass unless Arod agrees to play first base, which makes Delgado expendable for peanuts.


arod is not "crappier" than wright at 3rd.. regardless hed never play 1st base and wed never move reyes to 2nd. if arod came hed be at 3rd or 2nd(which i doubt). aside from the D, picture this lineup..

reyes ~300avg 75+ steals 125+ runs
beltran 275+ avg 20-35hrs 125+runs ~90rbis
wright 300-325 avg 25-40hrs 125+runs ~120rbis
arod 280-310 avg 40-50hrs 125+ runs 130+rbis
alou 300+ avg 15-30hrs 50-100+rbis depending on health
delgado 250-280 or so avg 20-35hrs 50-100+ rbis depending on health
milledge
loduca
pitcher

and this is in the NL.. thats a serious lineup for the AL, but the NL cmon its literally unfair. this team would have zerooo excuse not to make the world series. maybe trade/sign a starter and some relief help and the team would be scary.

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Post#37 » by Puertorique » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:30 am

Why not move Reyeres to 2nd which is a easier move then moving Wright and let the greatest SS of all tim play his position?
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Post#38 » by bringinhinkie » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:29 am

Puertorique wrote:Why not move Reyeres to 2nd which is a easier move then moving Wright and let the greatest SS of all tim play his position?


we alrdy did that first of all and it didnt work, secondly its a complete slap in the face the reyes.. thirdly at this point in their careers, reyes may very well be a better defensive SS than arod - reyes was having a rediculous defensive season till his slump. its not good for team chemistry, no way we can move reyes. im sure wright and arod could both easily play 2nd if willing, 3b is a much more difficult position and a shorter throw, which are both arod and wrights weaknesses defensively. h/e that might also hurt us when turning dbl plays, but wed be fine.
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Post#39 » by krustytheclown » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:56 pm

thank goddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

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