2023 Draft Discussion

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Another really underrated two way guard is declaring for the NBA draft that has great size/ strength at 6'5 205 lbs with great athleticism too. He plays very similar to a mix of Marcus Smart/ Jrue Holiday. He'd be incredible value (on a two way deal) as a late 2nd to undrafted option at guard.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Lastly, A superb ELITE value option for a backup scoring guard (to replace Shamet) and who has a splash of Bradley Beal to his game, or a more efficient Jordan Clarkson perhaps and who will most likely be yet another elite upside hidden gem in the undrafted range for us to consider is Sir Jabari Rice of Texas. He also possesses one of the most elite, lethal pump fakes in all of college basketball.

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I love his basketball IQ for the potential driving lanes/passing opportunities it creates, and the potential free throw generation as well. Our future competitive success/sustainability will heavily depend upon our ability to identify and secure potential high end hidden talent/ value in the 2nd round to undrafted range on really cheap cost controlled contracts/ two way contracts. Not only benefitting our sustainable core/ long term depth. But also in acquiring potential high value trade assets (upon development) that are on cost controlled contracts. If I can root out some of these undervalued talents, there should be no reason our front office's professional scouting staff with much better available resources shouldn't be able to identify these players and negotiate a contract opportunity with them. A backcourt of any of Sion James/ Jabari Rice/ Omaha Biliew would be an absolute draft coup for us!!!

[Slim Charless]

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Another really underrated two way guard is declaring for the NBA draft that has great size/ strength at 6'5 205 lbs with great athleticism too. He plays very similar to a mix of Marcus Smart/ Jrue Holiday. He'd be incredible value (on a two way deal) as a late 2nd to undrafted option at guard.

Hey, what's your opinion on Andre Jackson Jr and Reece Beekman?

I'm hoping Ish buys a low 1st for us and was looking at potential help with CP3. Let's say we keep him and Pain, who can give us 10-15 a game and maybe take over after a year or two?

They don't need to do much this year but would be the 3rd string behind Pain.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Another really underrated two way guard is declaring for the NBA draft that has great size/ strength at 6'5 205 lbs with great athleticism too. He plays very similar to a mix of Marcus Smart/ Jrue Holiday. He'd be incredible value (on a two way deal) as a late 2nd to undrafted option at guard.

Hey, what's your opinion on Andre Jackson Jr and Reece Beekman?

I'm hoping Ish buys a low 1st for us and was looking at potential help with CP3. Let's say we keep him and Pain, who can give us 10-15 a game and maybe take over after a year or two?

They don't need to do much this year but would be the 3rd string behind Pain.

Great eye man!
I love Andre Jackson personally as he's more or less a more explosive (elite vertical athleticism) version of Matisse Thybulle/Okogie but with very underrated playmaking! He's a surprisingly good passer for a point forward (wing). He's not really a threat offensively yet though as he needs to refine his shot mechanics ( has a bit of a high hitch in his shooting). And he also needs to polish up his scoring package a bit. He'd be very solid and definitely a rotation level player defensively right away though. Unfortunately he won't be available to us though unless we really trade up as I have him going in the early to mid 30's in the 2nd round.

Reece Beekman is another great 2nd round option I've been pretty high on for awhile now (along with Jalen Pickett of Penn). He's a very solid, poised in game manager type of stable guard that isn't flashy, but more often than not makes the correct play. He does have some really surprising bounce though at times, and is actually a very good potentially elite defender (especially on ball). But also very good off ball as well due to his really high defensive IQ. He's also a very good and poised playmaker and is adept at playing the passing lanes. It wouldn't at all be an exaggeration to say he closely compares to Bwgood's favorite player in Tyus Jones of the Memphis grizzlies. Only Beekman has more height at 6'3 in contrast to Jones 6'0. We'd be very lucky IF he would actually fall to our range at 52, currently I have him going in the late 30's to mid 40's range.

(This brief video breakdown illustrates his potentially elite "on ball" ability as well as his high level defense in general)
https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/sPLL8le6

By the way, Mike Miles of TCU is a comparable budget version of Jalen Brunson! Although Jabari Price (of Texas) Hybrid of Poole/ Beal or a rich man's Clarkson, Or Antione Davis (of Detroit Mercy) are to very explosive and gifted scorers that people should look into! Davis just recently came within only three points of passing Pistol Pete Maravich's all time scoring record in his final game this season. He's just a ridiculous shooter for his 6'1 size.

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Another really underrated two way guard is declaring for the NBA draft that has great size/ strength at 6'5 205 lbs with great athleticism too. He plays very similar to a mix of Marcus Smart/ Jrue Holiday. He'd be incredible value (on a two way deal) as a late 2nd to undrafted option at guard.

Hey, what's your opinion on Andre Jackson Jr and Reece Beekman?

I'm hoping Ish buys a low 1st for us and was looking at potential help with CP3. Let's say we keep him and Pain, who can give us 10-15 a game and maybe take over after a year or two?

They don't need to do much this year but would be the 3rd string behind Pain.

Great eye man!
I love Andre Jackson personally as he's more or less a more explosive (elite vertical athleticism) version of Matisse Thybulle/Okogie but with very underrated playmaking! He's a surprisingly good passer for a point forward (wing). He's not really a threat offensively yet though as he needs to refine his shot mechanics ( has a bit of a high hitch in his shooting). And he also needs to polish up his scoring package a bit. He'd be very solid and definitely a rotation level player defensively right away though. Unfortunately he won't be available to us though unless we really trade up as I have him going in the early to mid 30's in the 2nd round.

Reece Beekman is another great 2nd round option I've been pretty high on for awhile now (along with Jalen Pickett of Penn). He's a very solid, poised in game manager type of stable guard that isn't flashy, but more often than not makes the correct play. He does have some really surprising bounce though at times, and is actually a very good potentially elite defender (especially on ball). But also very good off ball as well due to his really high defensive IQ. He's also a very good and poised playmaker and is adept at playing the passing lanes. It wouldn't at all be an exaggeration to say he closely compares to Bwgood's favorite player in Tyus Jones of the Memphis grizzlies. Only Beekman has more height at 6'3 in contrast to Jones 6'0. We'd be very lucky IF he would actually fall to our range at 52, currently I have him going in the late 30's to mid 40's range.

(This brief video breakdown illustrates his potentially elite "on ball" ability as well as his high level defense in general)
https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/sPLL8le6

By the way, Mike Miles of TCU is a comparable budget version of Jalen Brunson! Although Jabari Price (of Texas) Hybrid of Poole/ Beal or a rich man's Clarkson, Or Antione Davis (of Detroit Mercy) are to very explosive and gifted scorers that people should look into! Davis just recently came within only three points of passing Pistol Pete Maravich's all time scoring record in his final game this season. He's just a ridiculous shooter for his 6'1 size.

Well my hope is that Ishbia buys a pick or 2 in the high second round. Maybe grab both of those guys. My thinking is we try and replace Chris's playmaking with 2 players instead of 1. Also, they both have multiple years in college and hopefully are ready to help sooner rather then later.

The Hornets at 34, 39 and 41 are prime candidates for a buying opportunity. Jordan is cheap and will take the money. Get 2 from them and maybe get Ermoni Bates with our own 52nd pick.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Hey, what's your opinion on Andre Jackson Jr and Reece Beekman?

I'm hoping Ish buys a low 1st for us and was looking at potential help with CP3. Let's say we keep him and Pain, who can give us 10-15 a game and maybe take over after a year or two?

They don't need to do much this year but would be the 3rd string behind Pain.

Great eye man!
I love Andre Jackson personally as he's more or less a more explosive (elite vertical athleticism) version of Matisse Thybulle/Okogie but with very underrated playmaking! He's a surprisingly good passer for a point forward (wing). He's not really a threat offensively yet though as he needs to refine his shot mechanics ( has a bit of a high hitch in his shooting). And he also needs to polish up his scoring package a bit. He'd be very solid and definitely a rotation level player defensively right away though. Unfortunately he won't be available to us though unless we really trade up as I have him going in the early to mid 30's in the 2nd round.

Reece Beekman is another great 2nd round option I've been pretty high on for awhile now (along with Jalen Pickett of Penn). He's a very solid, poised in game manager type of stable guard that isn't flashy, but more often than not makes the correct play. He does have some really surprising bounce though at times, and is actually a very good potentially elite defender (especially on ball). But also very good off ball as well due to his really high defensive IQ. He's also a very good and poised playmaker and is adept at playing the passing lanes. It wouldn't at all be an exaggeration to say he closely compares to Bwgood's favorite player in Tyus Jones of the Memphis grizzlies. Only Beekman has more height at 6'3 in contrast to Jones 6'0. We'd be very lucky IF he would actually fall to our range at 52, currently I have him going in the late 30's to mid 40's range.

(This brief video breakdown illustrates his potentially elite "on ball" ability as well as his high level defense in general)
https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/sPLL8le6

By the way, Mike Miles of TCU is a comparable budget version of Jalen Brunson! Although Jabari Price (of Texas) Hybrid of Poole/ Beal or a rich man's Clarkson, Or Antione Davis (of Detroit Mercy) are to very explosive and gifted scorers that people should look into! Davis just recently came within only three points of passing Pistol Pete Maravich's all time scoring record in his final game this season. He's just a ridiculous shooter for his 6'1 size.

Well my hope is that Ishbia buys a pick or 2 in the high second round. Maybe grab both of those guys. My thinking is we try and replace Chris's playmaking with 2 players instead of 1. Also, they both have multiple years in college and hopefully are ready to help sooner rather then later.

The Hornets at 34, 39 and 41 are prime candidates for a buying opportunity. Jordan is cheap and will take the money. Get 2 from them and maybe get Ermoni Bates with our own 52nd pick.

Great post man! And I wholeheartedly agree with you on hoping that Ishibia buys a couple of picks in the early 2nd round if not even one in the 1st? Getting those two players would help advance our long term developmental depth that we've sidestepped for too long a lot.
And having the capability of carrying 3 two way contracts now is really an underrated benefit to a severely hamstrung soon to be hard capped team.

We can't just continue to try and scrape the bottom of the bin for low cost cast offs that might have a very small chance of outplaying their minimally established value in outlier scenarios. We need to take more swings on young, cost controlled talent that still possesses high end upside. Especially on cost controlled contracts. We also seriously need to stop ignoring legitimate development and representation of such young talent by reacquiring a G league affiliate team to promote better development to support our diminished core!

Durant is great! But we genuinely need to replace at least what we gave up in Bridges and what we'll lose in Paul's disintegration with more high end elite level talent. Unless our long term strategy is to just remain capped out and field a mediocre treadmilling early exit possibly play in team with only Booker and Durant as our stars and gaping holes at the guard and small forward positions. And possibly at the 5 as well if we don't win whatever Ayton trade we may explore this summer! And that's on top of our mediocre razor thin productional depth we acquire at a minimum.

Hopefully Ishbia recognizes everything you've suggested in your post man!

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Could be our 7 ft version of a Saric replacement option off the bench???

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This kid is someone who I'd like for consideration (in the 2nd round) as a potential bench replacement option for what Crowder's role was with us. Now he's not yet nearly as good defensively, but he's big, strong, and very offensively versatile just the same. Jaylin Williams (Auburn) is another solid consideration that'll likely be available from the undrafted pool! Also, I still really like Donta Scott (Maryland) a very rugged, physical two way player with a high two way basketball IQ and good ballhandling skillset.

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[Ghost of Kleine]

IF we were to trade Ayton, and get a pick back in the 20's-mid 20's, I'd love to pick this kid! He's a mix of Al Harrington/ Jarrett Allen in the 4/5 mold. Very perfect for his role as a solid 3 & D 4/5.

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[Ghost of Kleine]

https://www.nbadraftjunkies.com/sidy-cissoko
https://nbadraftroom.com/sidy-cissoko/

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Although slightly smaller at 6'8 with a 6'10 wingspan, Sidy Cissoko has surprisingly high potential and a lot of very similar tools and skillset traits to Pascal Siakim. He is still pretty raw, But already displays advanced court vision and passing ability. He's also a very good positional defender with great weakside recovery awareness and anticipation. He has good speed and solid plus athleticism. He's built very strong, similar build to Anunoby, but with more of a guard playmaking/ defensive mindset. If you watch the breakdown at how toolsy and versatile he is for his size, I think a strong argument could be made for him being better overall than Anthony Black who's a lottery pick in this draft.

He'd be a premium value acquisition in his current range in the mid to late 20's.

[kennydorglas]

Yeah gimme all those cheap rim runners to our team.

[Slim Charless]

GoK, send your resume into Footprint. We need some eyes down there to help find us young talent in the second round.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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We really should pick up another cheap 2nd to get this kid for one of our 3 available two way slots (G league development)!!
He's definitely got that superstar moxy and scoring package. He really just needs solid mentoring and some development time. But he moves and scores at 6'10 very similar to Durant of all things. Anyone, compare their movement/ scoring style of play and tell me I'm wrong here!

[kennydorglas]

Emoni Bates was a guy I was really intrigued for quite some time.
We need to see if we'll clear the house or not, but he should be a decent flyer if we're actually trying to improve this team thru the draft (or with what is left for us in draft capital anyways)

well miami reshuffle their roster all the time with undrafted dudes coming from nowhere.
if you know what ure doing, its definitely doable.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Emoni Bates was a guy I was really intrigued for quite some time.
We need to see if we'll clear the house or not, but he should be a decent flyer if we're actually trying to improve this team thru the draft (or with what is left for us in draft capital anyways)

well miami reshuffle their roster all the time with undrafted dudes coming from nowhere.
if you know what ure doing, its definitely doable.

Absofreakin'lutely agree man!!!
We should have been developing young high end swing talent for a few seasons now to offset our top heavy salary table with cost controlled options. But Jones/ Saver opted to sidestep sustainable development for leftover discount scrubs. And it really shows this postseason! Now we need to play catchup!! Draft utilization (talent farming) is going to become critically important for us going forward.

[KdoubleDees23]

Yall are trying to talk about a bunch of scrubs in here that wont do anything for us. Love it lol

[Ghost of Kleine]

Yall are trying to talk about a bunch of scrubs in here that wont do anything for us. Love it lol

You mean as opposed to the stellar production that our vet min bench and players like Shamet at 10 million and Craig at 5 million have offered us in this series...lol!
I'll take the young promising talent on much cheaper cost controlled contracts thank you very much.

[KdoubleDees23]

Yall are trying to talk about a bunch of scrubs in here that wont do anything for us. Love it lol

You mean as opposed to the stellar production that our vet min bench and players like Shamet at 10 million and Craig at 5 million have offered us in this series...lol!
I'll take the young promising talent on much cheaper cost controlled contracts thank you very much.

You havent posted one promising talent lol . Just scrubs

[Ghost of Kleine]

Yall are trying to talk about a bunch of scrubs in here that wont do anything for us. Love it lol

You mean as opposed to the stellar production that our vet min bench and players like Shamet at 10 million and Craig at 5 million have offered us in this series...lol!
I'll take the young promising talent on much cheaper cost controlled contracts thank you very much.

You havent posted one promising talent lol . Just scrubs

I'll try to take your very astute and experienced opinion to heart as so many of your posts offer such renowned merit.