2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat (MIA leads 3-2)

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Lmao the only reason we beat the bucks is because giannis got hurt? Wrong. We were beating them with a healthy giannis or not.

Doubt the Heat win if Giannis was fully healthy for the entire series. But there were more reasons outside of basketball that the Bucks lost.

The only game the Bucks won was without Giannis. Please make your comment make sense.

People just ignore we were drilling them by 14 when he got hurt. Then when he came back they couldn’t close because they just funneled the ball to him and Bam would shut him down.

[iLLmatic860]

Lmao the only reason we beat the bucks is because giannis got hurt? Wrong. We were beating them with a healthy giannis or not.

Doubt the Heat win if Giannis was fully healthy for the entire series. But there were more reasons outside of basketball that the Bucks lost.

The only game the Bucks won was without Giannis. Please make your comment make sense.

Its pretty simple. If Giannis plays game 3, Bucks most likely win that game. Heat won and gave them momemtum and extra confidence going into game 4. Then you know the rest. Obviously the Bud death of a family member didn't help either.

In no way im trying to discredit the Heat because Spo has been doing a phenomenal job coaching. At this point hes pretty much the best coach in the league. I just feel like the Bucks choked

[Paz]

Doubt the Heat win if Giannis was fully healthy for the entire series. But there were more reasons outside of basketball that the Bucks lost.

The only game the Bucks won was without Giannis. Please make your comment make sense.

Its pretty simple. If Giannis plays game 3, Bucks most likely win that game. Heat won and gave them momemtum and extra confidence going into game 4. Then you know the rest. Obviously the Bud death of a family member didn't help either.

In no way im trying to discredit the Heat because Spo has been doing a phenomenal job coaching. At this point hes pretty much the best coach in the league.

I'd still like to see how Kerr does without Curry

While we are blaming the Bucks losing this series on things that don’t matter or make sense since the HEAT were blowing their backs out before Giannis went down, why don’t we also blame it on Mercury being in retrograde or Middleton’s niece missing a couple notes during her piano recital.

[iLLmatic860]

The only game the Bucks won was without Giannis. Please make your comment make sense.

Its pretty simple. If Giannis plays game 3, Bucks most likely win that game. Heat won and gave them momemtum and extra confidence going into game 4. Then you know the rest. Obviously the Bud death of a family member didn't help either.

In no way im trying to discredit the Heat because Spo has been doing a phenomenal job coaching. At this point hes pretty much the best coach in the league.

I'd still like to see how Kerr does without Curry

While we are blaming the Bucks losing this series on things that don’t matter or make sense since the HEAT were blowing their backs out before Giannis went down, why don’t we also blame it on Mercury being in retrograde or Middleton’s niece missing a couple notes during her piano recital.

You guys been shooting lights out, it almost makes no sense. Im not even going to respond because I honestly didn't really follow Heat/Bucks until the middle of the series.

I have a honest question to Heat fans. Do you think that the Herro injury in game 1 helped the Heat? He was taking like 16 shots per game. I feel like it gave guys like Vincent, Martin and Strus more of an opportunity to get into rhythm . I honestly don't know if Heat make it this far with Herro

I've been trying to wrap my head around this since you guys were not shooting lights out like this in the reg season


I love talking **** to Heat and Tampa Bay fans, its mutual lol but damn you really have a team thats hard to hate. Besides Lowry and Herro, everybody is likable to me. (Feel the same way about the Rays)

[Paz]

Its pretty simple. If Giannis plays game 3, Bucks most likely win that game. Heat won and gave them momemtum and extra confidence going into game 4. Then you know the rest. Obviously the Bud death of a family member didn't help either.

In no way im trying to discredit the Heat because Spo has been doing a phenomenal job coaching. At this point hes pretty much the best coach in the league.

I'd still like to see how Kerr does without Curry

While we are blaming the Bucks losing this series on things that don’t matter or make sense since the HEAT were blowing their backs out before Giannis went down, why don’t we also blame it on Mercury being in retrograde or Middleton’s niece missing a couple notes during her piano recital.

You guys been shooting lights out, it almost makes no sense. Im not even going to respond because I honestly didn't really follow Heat/Bucks until the middle of the series.

I have a honest question to Heat fans. Do you think that the Herro injury in game 1 helped the Heat? He was taking like 16 shots per game. I feel like it gave guys like Vincent, Martin and Strus more of an opportunity to get into rhythm . I honestly don't know if Heat make it this far with Herro

I've been trying to wrap my head around this since you guys were not shooting lights out like this in the reg season


I love talking **** to Heat and Tampa Bay fans, its mutual lol but damn you really have a team thats hard to hate. Besides Lowry and Herro, everybody is likable to me. (Feel the same way about the Rays)

Oh man that’s a good question. I think losing Herro hurt us but at the same time it gave a lane for the other guys to step up.

[bronxknicksfan1]

The only game the Bucks won was without Giannis. Please make your comment make sense.

Its pretty simple. If Giannis plays game 3, Bucks most likely win that game. Heat won and gave them momemtum and extra confidence going into game 4. Then you know the rest. Obviously the Bud death of a family member didn't help either.

In no way im trying to discredit the Heat because Spo has been doing a phenomenal job coaching. At this point hes pretty much the best coach in the league.

I'd still like to see how Kerr does without Curry

While we are blaming the Bucks losing this series on things that don’t matter or make sense since the HEAT were blowing their backs out before Giannis went down, why don’t we also blame it on Mercury being in retrograde or Middleton’s niece missing a couple notes during her piano recital.

Tragically losing a family member while a series is going on doesn’t matter? The comparisons you’re trying to make are insensitive and idiotic.

And as we’ve seen even from the Heat, being down in a game doesn’t mean a comeback can’t happen. Especially from a team with a player like Giannis. 2.5 games were played without him. That worked to your advantage.

[_GH0ST_]

Tyler is definitely a loss for the Heat. Spo hides defensive weaknesses very well in the playoffs. Also, Tyler has improved a bit in defense this season, even though he's still down on defense. Oladipo is also a loss. He didn't even let Jrue breathe in the match where he was injured.

Also that team of bucks would have eliminated your Knicks.

[bronxknicksfan1]

Tyler is definitely a loss for the Heat. Spo hides defensive weaknesses very well in the playoffs. Also, Tyler has improved a bit in defense this season, even though he's still down on defense. Oladipo is also a loss. He didn't even let Jrue breathe in the match where he was injured.

Also that team of bucks would have eliminated your Knicks.

Exactly why we preferred this matchup. Knicks matchup better against the Heat. Our biggest advantage is our size and rebounding. The Bucks neutralize that advantage because of how big their team is. The Heat are a small team and the Knicks have no issue out-rebounding them.

Also don’t think the loss of Herro is as bad as it’s made out to be. The other Heat shooters don’t get the same opportunity to shoot as much as they do now with Herro out there. That shooting has gotten them this far.

[_GH0ST_]

Tyler is definitely a loss for the Heat. Spo hides defensive weaknesses very well in the playoffs. Also, Tyler has improved a bit in defense this season, even though he's still down on defense. Oladipo is also a loss. He didn't even let Jrue breathe in the match where he was injured.

Also that team of bucks would have eliminated your Knicks.

Exactly why we preferred this matchup. Knicks matchup better against the Heat. Our biggest advantage is our size and rebounding. The Bucks neutralize that advantage because of how big their team is. The Heat are a small team and the Knicks have no issue out-rebounding them.

Also don’t think the loss of Herro is as bad as it’s made out to be. The other Heat shooters don’t get the same opportunity to shoot as much as they do now with Herro out there. That shooting has gotten them this far.

Do you think you know Heat better than Heat fans? Herro was the team's best shooter and the 2nd best scoring option. His departure caused Bam's offensive performance to drop drastically.

Spo has been playing small teams for years and we've consistently eliminated big size teams over the years. This is something we are used to.

[Shewasfly]

The loss of Herro is a big one, and showed in the 4th quarter of last game. He's another creator on our offense.

The other guys getting in rhythm is not on him being out. They are just now hitting the same shots they were missing all year. Its wild, but it really is looking like they "turned it on" for the playoffs, that along with some excellent preparation from Spo and the coaching staff.

[stuporman]

Nothing like rehashing a past series in this thread when there's this series to hash out, what ifism is just the same as what aboutism

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Losing Herro helps in areas and hurts in areas, assuming he was actually going to show up in the playoffs and do the 1 thing he’s paid to do for once.

[Luv those Knicks]

Fair enough, but what player were we going to sign who would actually have played and didn't play for an NBA team this season?

I don't know. A 6'10 PF/C from the G-league? Carmello Anthony? I think a body would have been better than nothing, but probably wouldn't have turned around game 1.

No way that player was going to get minutes over Mitch, Isiah, Obi, or RJ.

Maybe, but depth is still better than a player on the playoff roster who's opted for season ending surgery.

Maybe I'm making too big a deal out of it.

[bronxknicksfan1]

Tyler is definitely a loss for the Heat. Spo hides defensive weaknesses very well in the playoffs. Also, Tyler has improved a bit in defense this season, even though he's still down on defense. Oladipo is also a loss. He didn't even let Jrue breathe in the match where he was injured.

Also that team of bucks would have eliminated your Knicks.

Exactly why we preferred this matchup. Knicks matchup better against the Heat. Our biggest advantage is our size and rebounding. The Bucks neutralize that advantage because of how big their team is. The Heat are a small team and the Knicks have no issue out-rebounding them.

Also don’t think the loss of Herro is as bad as it’s made out to be. The other Heat shooters don’t get the same opportunity to shoot as much as they do now with Herro out there. That shooting has gotten them this far.

Do you think you know Heat better than Heat fans? Herro was the team's best shooter and the 2nd best scoring option. His departure caused Bam's offensive performance to drop drastically.

Spo has been playing small teams for years and we've consistently eliminated big size teams over the years. This is something we are used to.

Does it matter how much you think you know your team? Herro being out has meant Jimmy dominates the ball more and your other shooters get more opportunities. It is a fact that the combination of that has gotten them this far. Whether they keep shooting 40%+ remains to be seen, but we’d have no idea if Herro would’ve shot the same way or folded like he has in the past couple postseasons.

As for beating big teams, that again comes down to whether the Heat can continue to shoot 40%+ from 3. Can’t continue to give up second chances off offensive rebounds to the Knicks and expect to win the series. Knicks won’t always have bad shooting games like game 1.

[_GH0ST_]

Exactly why we preferred this matchup. Knicks matchup better against the Heat. Our biggest advantage is our size and rebounding. The Bucks neutralize that advantage because of how big their team is. The Heat are a small team and the Knicks have no issue out-rebounding them.

Also don’t think the loss of Herro is as bad as it’s made out to be. The other Heat shooters don’t get the same opportunity to shoot as much as they do now with Herro out there. That shooting has gotten them this far.

Do you think you know Heat better than Heat fans? Herro was the team's best shooter and the 2nd best scoring option. His departure caused Bam's offensive performance to drop drastically.

Spo has been playing small teams for years and we've consistently eliminated big size teams over the years. This is something we are used to.

Does it matter how much you think you know your team? Herro being out has meant Jimmy dominates the ball more and your other shooters get more opportunities. It is a fact that the combination of that has gotten them this far. Whether they keep shooting 40%+ remains to be seen, but we’d have no idea if Herro would’ve shot the same way or folded like he has in the past couple postseasons.

As for beating big teams, that again comes down to whether the Heat can continue to shoot 40%+ from 3. Can’t continue to give up second chances off offensive rebounds to the Knicks and expect to win the series. Knicks won’t always have bad shooting games like game 1.

Yes it does matter. Jimmy, Herro would mostly have the ball when he was healthy. Even assuming you're right about the shot, you can't deny that Herro's absence took a bad on Bam offence.

The regular season is over and this team is back from last season since the Chicago game and they are shooting great. We were one of the best shooting teams in the league last season and we found our rhythm. It's absurd to always attribute it to chance.

If you think you met the real Jimmy in game one, you're wrong. The real series for the Knicks will begin after that.

[bronxknicksfan1]

Do you think you know Heat better than Heat fans? Herro was the team's best shooter and the 2nd best scoring option. His departure caused Bam's offensive performance to drop drastically.

Spo has been playing small teams for years and we've consistently eliminated big size teams over the years. This is something we are used to.

Does it matter how much you think you know your team? Herro being out has meant Jimmy dominates the ball more and your other shooters get more opportunities. It is a fact that the combination of that has gotten them this far. Whether they keep shooting 40%+ remains to be seen, but we’d have no idea if Herro would’ve shot the same way or folded like he has in the past couple postseasons.

As for beating big teams, that again comes down to whether the Heat can continue to shoot 40%+ from 3. Can’t continue to give up second chances off offensive rebounds to the Knicks and expect to win the series. Knicks won’t always have bad shooting games like game 1.

Yes it does matter. Jimmy, Herro would mostly have the ball when he was healthy. Even assuming you're right about the shot, you can't deny that Herro's absence took a bad on Bam offence.

The regular season is over and this team is back from last season since the Chicago game and they are shooting great. We were one of the best shooting teams in the league last season and we found our rhythm. It's absurd to always attribute it to chance.

If you think you met the real Jimmy in game one, you're wrong. The real series for the Knicks will begin after that.

And the Heat got their first taste of Randle in Game 2 after not seeing him Game 1

Jimmy isn’t some mythical being that can’t be stopped and Miami’s shooting isn’t what it was during the Bucks series. There was a game they shot 60% from 3 and they were over 40%+ for most of it. It’s already coming back to Earth this series.

[Paz]

Its pretty simple. If Giannis plays game 3, Bucks most likely win that game. Heat won and gave them momemtum and extra confidence going into game 4. Then you know the rest. Obviously the Bud death of a family member didn't help either.

In no way im trying to discredit the Heat because Spo has been doing a phenomenal job coaching. At this point hes pretty much the best coach in the league.

I'd still like to see how Kerr does without Curry

While we are blaming the Bucks losing this series on things that don’t matter or make sense since the HEAT were blowing their backs out before Giannis went down, why don’t we also blame it on Mercury being in retrograde or Middleton’s niece missing a couple notes during her piano recital.

Tragically losing a family member while a series is going on doesn’t matter? The comparisons you’re trying to make are insensitive and idiotic.

And as we’ve seen even from the Heat, being down in a game doesn’t mean a comeback can’t happen. Especially from a team with a player like Giannis. 2.5 games were played without him. That worked to your advantage.

Bet you’re right I was being insensitive but really though things happen in life and alterations need to be made to your mindset that will allow you to persevere. Especially when there are people counting on you to be on your top game.

I can only speak for myself and I don’t know if you can relate but my life is far from easy, things come up that really mess me up emotionally and even recently, physically but I have a lot of people counting on me to come through regardless if my days are going great or the entire world feels like it’s crumbling around me. I don’t always succeed but I would never blame the things that happen to me as a reason as to why I wasn’t able to get myself together enough to clear my mind and get what I need to do done. Bud is in control of his emotions and actions. It was up to him to not allow his strife to dictate the outcome of his actions. My opinion. Yes it’s insensitive but it’s valid and far from idiotic. His team was counting on him and he s*** the bed. The three timeouts he messed up could have allows the bucks to take that game. He f***ed up and should own that.

Also GA went down and the rest of the team stepped up in his absence and won that game he was out. Don’t know what you’re getting at with that.

[Letsgokings]

Doubt the Heat win if Giannis was fully healthy for the entire series. But there were more reasons outside of basketball that the Bucks lost.

The only game the Bucks won was without Giannis. Please make your comment make sense.

Its pretty simple. If Giannis plays game 3, Bucks most likely win that game. Heat won and gave them momemtum and extra confidence going into game 4. Then you know the rest. Obviously the Bud death of a family member didn't help either.

In no way im trying to discredit the Heat because Spo has been doing a phenomenal job coaching. At this point hes pretty much the best coach in the league. I just feel like the Bucks choked

the heat won that game by more then 20 points. Giannis would of made the score a little closer but it wouldn't of made a difference in the actual outcome.

[iLLmatic860]

The only game the Bucks won was without Giannis. Please make your comment make sense.

Its pretty simple. If Giannis plays game 3, Bucks most likely win that game. Heat won and gave them momemtum and extra confidence going into game 4. Then you know the rest. Obviously the Bud death of a family member didn't help either.

In no way im trying to discredit the Heat because Spo has been doing a phenomenal job coaching. At this point hes pretty much the best coach in the league. I just feel like the Bucks choked

the heat won that game by more then 20 points. Giannis would of made the score a little closer but it wouldn't of made a difference in the actual outcome.

I'm not sure you understand how basketball works lol. Giannis did not play in game 3. Superstars can control the game and teammates feed off of that energy.

You never seen a team have full momentum and the star gets injured and the game completely changes? This is a star league.

[Capn'O]

I'm not sure why we're litigating the Bucks series but they couldn't hold leads. That was the main issue. I don't think the Knicks will be as susceptible to that but the question is whether we can build them. Heat seem to have some trouble with Randle. He keeps Bam occupied and you can't foul him like Giannis because he hits free throws. We haven't seen full on Jimmy yet either though. I think the games get better from here.