Trade Discussion 22/23

[Mike lorenzo]

After the season where Luka publicly said "I want to go back and have fun again", Mavs sign Brooks? Yeah, no way... This guy is a wannabe thug who likes to run his mouth but can't back anything up.

Mavs actually need some serious veteran leadership.

They need freaking maturity not some childish bullying like Brooks was doing to Lebron. We've seen that Luka doesn't bow down to anyone and also doesn't let anyone bully him, but what he needs is a strong minded veteran leader who can get through him and show him tough love. Like Dragic for example.

at this point if Dragic hasn't been a Mavs...is it possible that Luka doesn't want him?...I mean...I can't imagine Luka asking for Dragic and Cuban signing Campazzo... You can accuse the Mavs of whatever you want ... but no, not trying to please Luka

[Archx]

After the season where Luka publicly said "I want to go back and have fun again", Mavs sign Brooks? Yeah, no way... This guy is a wannabe thug who likes to run his mouth but can't back anything up.

Mavs actually need some serious veteran leadership.

They need freaking maturity not some childish bullying like Brooks was doing to Lebron. We've seen that Luka doesn't bow down to anyone and also doesn't let anyone bully him, but what he needs is a strong minded veteran leader who can get through him and show him tough love. Like Dragic for example.

at this point if Dragic hasn't been a Mavs...is it possible that Luka doesn't want him?...I mean...I can't imagine Luka asking for Dragic and Cuban signing Campazzo... You can accuse the Mavs of whatever you want ... but no, not trying to please Luka

Like i said in previous post. I didn't say i want Dragic on this team, i just want a veteran leadership that players respect and will listen to. Doesn't really matter who it is. Kidd is too friendly with them and Luka is too young.

[Forbes]

Well apparently he wants 25/yr, good luck getting half of that

Read on Twitter

Ahh I understand. He’s delusional.

[SOUNDCHASER]

This is a deep draft and we need to be inviting a lot of players to join our team the second that last 2nd round pick is made. Juan Nunez may slide through the draft and not get taken. He is a decent PG prospect at 6'4 and rated the best prospect at PG in Europe. Luka needs to make the call and get him here so he can mentor him into a decent back up. We do have 3 two way contracts to use this offseason. Wright looked half way decent last year and Lawson was great in the time he got to play. If Juan looks like a better prospect then we could trade off Wright or just cut him. I like having extra PG's waiting in the wing to step in when an injury hits but this team already has 2 all star PG's and Hardy as well to play at point.

At 6'4 Nunez can be a defender that focuses on stopping the other teams best guard and if he can show an ability to cool hot shooters then that is a guy who we need to develop. Developing him as an asset is also important in case we can develop interest in his skills that may want to trade for him. Both of our 2 way players have produced better than past 2 way players and we may actually be able to develop them into something that we can either sell high or keep.

Centers and PF's are what we need more of and if we can snag something decent using our expiring contracts then we should be blowing up the phone and talking to every team who has a center and a need to reduce their salary cap.

[Maverick41]

Random trade to somehow enter into the Adams sweepstakes:

DAL Receives: S. Adams
MEM Receives: Siakam + Kleber
TOR Receives: Z. Williams + Laravia + Bullock + Kennard + 5 FRPs from MEM

DAL gets a starting big who's also a good veteran presence and arguably the toughest guy in the NBA. He also probably sets the best screens in the NBA. We lose 2 key rotation players but we got to give something to get something.

MEM goes all in without giving up anyone in their core. A big 4 of Ja, Bane, Siakam and JJJ is scary and fits really well. Maxi also provides them good big man depth and someone that can be a poor man's JJJ whenever he's out with his usual injuries.

TOR cashes in on Siakam. They don't get any high level prospect in the deal but 5 FRPs is pretty darn good for a guy that is in his last year of his deal. They also get 2 playoff rotation players in Bullock and Kennard. Bullock has an early termination if they want to save money.

[Teffer10]

Random trade to somehow enter into the Adams sweepstakes:

DAL Receives: S. Adams
MEM Receives: Siakam + Kleber
TOR Receives: Z. Williams + Laravia + Bullock + Kennard + 5 FRPs from MEM

DAL gets a starting big who's also a good veteran presence and arguably the toughest guy in the NBA. He also probably sets the best screens in the NBA. We lose 2 key rotation players but we got to give something to get something.

MEM goes all in without giving up anyone in their core. A big 4 of Ja, Bane, Siakam and JJJ is scary and fits really well. Maxi also provides them good big man depth and someone that can be a poor man's JJJ whenever he's out with his usual injuries.

TOR cashes in on Siakam. They don't get any high level prospect in the deal but 5 FRPs is pretty darn good for a guy that is in his last year of his deal. They also get 2 playoff rotation players in Bullock and Kennard. Bullock has an early termination if they want to save money.

I'd love to add Adam's but we'd be filling one hole while digging another hole deeper.
I guess it would depend on other moves to add defensive wings.

I just dont see us going after Adams as long a Kidd is our coach.

[41Dirk41]

I think Turner is our man, #10 pick+ filler are enough for him.

But he is not a great rebounder, we need a good PF after him.

[Maverick41]

I'd love to add Adam's but we'd be filling one hole while digging another hole deeper.
I guess it would depend on other moves to add defensive wings.

I just dont see us going after Adams as long a Kidd is our coach.

Personally I think the other holes can still be filled after. There's more stretch 5s and defensive wings in free agency then there is starting Cs. We'd also still have the 10th pick in this scenario.

But yeah your right. Just doesn't fit the switching style of Kidds defensive scheme. Would be nice to finally have a big that can't be bullied through. Year after year our bigs get bullied and it's tiresome to watch.

[Michaellam1987]

I think Turner is our man, #10 pick+ filler are enough for him.

But he is not a great rebounder, we need a good PF after him.

#10 is definitely not enough for Turner, especially he is under contract for 2 more seasons, at a very reasonable 20M per year.

[Mavrelous]

Someone threw a rumor of Ayton for Kyrie, if Pacers still want Ayton, then swing Ayton to Pacers and get Turner.

[daoneandonly]

Someone threw a rumor of Ayton for Kyrie, if Pacers still want Ayton, then swing Ayton to Pacers and get Turner.

But why wouldnt we just do the direct trade? Turner fits better if Kyrie is still here with Luka, but if KI is in the trade, Ayton is a much better fit. Turner is betetr defensively, but cant really rebound for a guy that height

[Mavrelous]

Someone threw a rumor of Ayton for Kyrie, if Pacers still want Ayton, then swing Ayton to Pacers and get Turner.

But why wouldnt we just do the direct trade? Turner fits better if Kyrie is still here with Luka, but if KI is in the trade, Ayton is a much better fit. Turner is betetr defensively, but cant really rebound for a guy that height

He's a fine rebounder, the problem is that he's on the perimeter on offense and usually played next to Sabonis and last year Isiah Jackson, so it hurts his rebounding #s.
Pacers want their future C, if they don't it'll take an overpay to get Turner.

[arkuo]

If I were Dallas, I'd focus on teams who went all in this year and traded all their chips on the table but failed. Namely, that's Minny for Gobert and Cleveland for Donovan Mitchell. Those teams have zero cap space and zero picks left but still find it lacking to win anything. They will be the first to make changes.

[41Dirk41]

I think Turner is our man, #10 pick+ filler are enough for him.

But he is not a great rebounder, we need a good PF after him.

#10 is definitely not enough for Turner, especially he is under contract for 2 more seasons, at a very reasonable 20M per year.

I don't know... #10 is better than a couple of FRPs in the middle of 20s...

[fuller4379]

The Utah Jazz are reportedly keeping an ‘interested eye’ on Dallas Mavericks star Luka Doncic.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/utah-jazz-reportedly-keeping-interested-171500379.html


Sure, they have the assets if the Mavericks wanted to trade him. I don't see Danny Ainge giving up the assets though to get him.

[41Dirk41]

The Utah Jazz are reportedly keeping an ‘interested eye’ on Dallas Mavericks star Luka Doncic.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/utah-jazz-reportedly-keeping-interested-171500379.html


Sure, they have the assets if the Mavericks wanted to trade him. I don't see Danny Ainge giving up the assets though to get him.

This is the best scenario for Cuban because he is clearly not able to build a contender team around him.

Win-win situation.

[ACMFFL]

The Utah Jazz are reportedly keeping an ‘interested eye’ on Dallas Mavericks star Luka Doncic.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/utah-jazz-reportedly-keeping-interested-171500379.html


Sure, they have the assets if the Mavericks wanted to trade him. I don't see Danny Ainge giving up the assets though to get him.

Actually they dont. Even if Ainge offers Lauri+Kessler+picks, it's still not enough for Luka this summer. They have a ton of picks but mid/late firsts aint gonna cut it to get Luka.

[Archx]

Two championship coaches fired recently and Kidd still has a job. Incredible.

[Mr B]

The Utah Jazz are reportedly keeping an ‘interested eye’ on Dallas Mavericks star Luka Doncic.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/utah-jazz-reportedly-keeping-interested-171500379.html


Sure, they have the assets if the Mavericks wanted to trade him. I don't see Danny Ainge giving up the assets though to get him.

In 2 years we can revisit this. Right now there’s no reason to trade Luka.

[SOUNDCHASER]

Utah is smoking some good **** makes me wonder what they are going to do. They got 2 great bigs in Lauri and Kessler but nothing much to pair with them.

We have 2 all-star PG's and need 2 bigs but Utah is not going to trade them to us.

Turner and Adams are garbage old and injured has beens. Temporary band aid at best and not a long term solution.

Lively or Zach Edey as a rookie can outperform Adams and be long term solutions when they both demonstrate that is the fact.

Turner is an okay three point shooter so he is more of a PF than a 5 and his rebounding is good for a PF but it sucks if he is considered a 5.

Size is the greatest asset a big man has and when he knows how to dominate others that are smaller then he demonstrates a basic understanding that all basketball experts agree on and that is size matters but I see around here a lot of you guys have girlfriends that have all told you that is a lie.

I am here to set the record straight and let you know that if you are one of the guys who thinks that size does not matter you are being lied to by your girl friend/ friends and they are probably all meeting up with someone that has what they need so they are just telling you what you want to hear.

Sorry to break that bit of bad news to you I hope you recover from that blow to your ego.

GUYS you just got to draft Edey and Lively and the hole in our defense is dramatically sealed. I know this is tough for you to get because you probably don't know this but when you have size it naturally seals all holes. The defense tightens up and your penetration is able to damage the other team badly.

With both Lively and Edey we have 2 centers and so we can give the other team what amounts to double the amount of penetration. We can seal up and fill 2 holes at the same time. LOL