Baseline81 wrote:urinesane wrote:This. I can't think of times where we've had a roster that was consistent for more than 2 years (and usually not even that). Sure, there were reasons (often times being a lack of talent/vets/guys to build around), but this team has plenty of talent, so that clearly isn't the issue this time.
Factor in how often we've changed coaches, it's kind of confusing to see all of the people calling for Finch's job (or even putting him on the hot seat for a tough season where they STILL made the playoffs). I think a lot of it is that Wolves fans (and MN sports fans in general) have been programmed to react emotionally (and want to make decisions based on those emotions) and in the past there hasn't been strong enough ownership/leadership to block out that noise and push forward through the adversity all teams face on their way to relevancy.
This isn't just MN sports fans obv, but is a symptom of many fan bases that have had a long stretch of mediocrity/futility (I'm sure plenty of people wanted Thibs gone in NY after they missed the playoffs last season). It's a symptom of losing and creates a feedback loop/vicious cycle that continues the outcomes that those fans so desperately are looking to avoid.
Care to explain Milwaukee firing its coach?
By your reasoning, the organization reacted too emotionally as he led the Bucks to the best record in the league.
The coach is always the easiest scapegoat and change. Though the two situations are completely different as with the Bucks they have sort of seen the full range of his coaching/system and want to move in a different direction. He had 5 seasons with Giannis (since he was 23 years old), that's a much larger sample size to judge a coach than 2.5 years with a patchwork roster and a ton of youth. Not saying that firing Bud was the right choice, but the logic is much more easy to understand than the Finch hate.
Finch has barely scratched the surface of what he is capable of as a HC imo. How did the expectation of Timberwolves coaches suddenly become that they don't make mistakes or they should be replaced?
Players make mistakes, EVERYONE makes mistakes. The most important two things when it comes to mistakes is:
1.) Does the person recognize and own this mistake?
2.) Is this person willing and capable of addressing this mistake, so that it doesn't become a trend?
I'd say yes to both of those when it comes to Finch. He isn't Thibs saying "My way or f*ck you.".
You never expect a player to be a finished product in their first years. The main factor is awareness of areas that need to be improved and a willingness/work ethic/ability to improve in those areas.
Why are coaches treated as if they are static? Finch has had A LOT thrown at him in his first 2.5 seasons and of course he hasn't navigated it all perfectly, but he's done a pretty damn good job (and has shown not only the ability to own mistakes, but also to adapt).
Take every single coach the Wolves have ever had and try to think how they would have dealt with the same rosters and adversity that Finch has dealt with so far. I can't think of a single coach in Wolves history that would have handled it better.
1.) He took over a team that was 7 - 24 and LAST in the NBA and had them looking somewhat competent by the end of the season.
2.) He took a team with MASSIVE weaknesses and created systems that helped them overachieve and make the playoffs for the first time since Butler took a dump on the franchise.
3.) He took a roster that the new FO completely revamped that was now built for a style that ISN'T EVEN ATTEMPTED in the modern NBA, had his best player (KAT was the best player on the roster coming into the season) miss 52 games AND STILL made the playoffs for the 2nd year in a row, which was the first time since KEVIN F*CKING GARNETT was here nearly 20 years ago.
Holy sh*t guys. Did you get a lobotomy to forget how TERRIBLE we've been for the past 20 years?
I mean I know it's a "What have you done for me lately?" league, but so many of you have suddenly turned into mindless Laker-esque fans after 1 playoff season?