2022-23 Season Discussion and Review - the Blockbuster trade and playoff downfall

kennydorglas · Post #1581 » by **kennydorglas** » Thu May 4, 2023 9:44 pm

If Coach Bud is available you dont even look back and hire him.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1582 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu May 4, 2023 9:46 pm

The funniest coaching outcome would be the Bucks and Suns trading Monty for Bud. Funny because the fan bases complaints are basically opposites. Bucks fans say bud doesn't play his starters enough minutes, his O is too 3 ball heavy. Well Monty is definitely not that.

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Jdiddy701 · Post #1583 » by **Jdiddy701** » Thu May 4, 2023 9:52 pm

kennydorglas wrote:If Coach Bud is available you dont even look back and hire him.

He’s a terrible coach. He should have got fired a few years back.

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TeamTragic · Post #1584 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu May 4, 2023 9:53 pm

Easy pass on Bud. Come on dudes.

We need a fresh approach.

BobbieL · Post #1585 » by **BobbieL** » Thu May 4, 2023 9:54 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:The funniest coaching outcome would be the Bucks and Suns trading Monty for Bud. Funny because the fan bases complaints are basically opposites. Bucks fans say bud doesn't play his starters enough minutes, his O is too 3 ball heavy. Well Monty is definitely not that.

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Woj just reporting Budenholzer fired

Nick Nurse going to Milwaukee in .....

BobbieL · Post #1586 » by **BobbieL** » Thu May 4, 2023 9:56 pm

TeamTragic wrote:Pass on Bud. Cone on dudes.

We need a fresh approach.

Still hoping that Monty brings them back and they win the next two and the series against the Nuggets

that said - if he is let go..

interesting names - maybe Nurse, Atkinson, Hammons

TeamTragic · Post #1587 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu May 4, 2023 9:56 pm

BobbieL wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:The funniest coaching outcome would be the Bucks and Suns trading Monty for Bud. Funny because the fan bases complaints are basically opposites. Bucks fans say bud doesn't play his starters enough minutes, his O is too 3 ball heavy. Well Monty is definitely not that.

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Woj just reporting Budenholzer fired

Nick Nurse going to Milwaukee in .....

Bucks just fired their coach after being the #1 seed.

I hate to say it but Monty is gone.

kennydorglas · Post #1588 » by **kennydorglas** » Thu May 4, 2023 10:05 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:
kennydorglas wrote:If Coach Bud is available you dont even look back and hire him.

He’s a terrible coach. He should have got fired a few years back.

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yeah

LV-Suns · Post #1589 » by **LV-Suns** » Thu May 4, 2023 10:08 pm

kennydorglas wrote:If Coach Bud is available you dont even look back and hire him.

I still feel like he would have been our coach in 2018 if we gave him what we wanted. He wanted to be the coach and the president of the team like Pop and he was at our doorstep knocking. He then took the Bucks job and we went with the cheap route hiring Igor. I always think about how we fumbled the 2018 summer.

kennydorglas · Post #1590 » by **kennydorglas** » Thu May 4, 2023 10:09 pm

Well now Coach Bud is available.
LETS GO ISHBIA

TeamTragic · Post #1591 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu May 4, 2023 10:12 pm

kennydorglas wrote:Well now Coach Bud is available.
LETS GO ISHBIA

That ship has sailed Kenny.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1592 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu May 4, 2023 10:19 pm

Wouldn't surprise me if Bud took a year off. It wasn't really widely reported but his brother died in a car accident in the middle of that Heat series.

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sunsfan1o1 · Post #1593 » by **sunsfan1o1** » Thu May 4, 2023 10:32 pm

Coach Bud is just as bad as Monty. There’s much better out there.

sunsbum · Post #1594 » by **sunsbum** » Thu May 4, 2023 10:48 pm

sunsfan1o1 wrote:Coach Bud is just as bad as Monty. There’s much better out there.

ridiculous. He won a championship in grand fashion.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1595 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu May 4, 2023 10:57 pm

sunsbum wrote:
sunsfan1o1 wrote:Coach Bud is just as bad as Monty. There’s much better out there.

ridiculous. He won a championship in grand fashion.

Yeah saying Bud or Monty is a 'bad' coach is pretty ridiculous. That's not to say teams don't need a change from time to time but both guys have been very successful coaches.

Fans love to hate their teams coach. It is what it is.

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sunsfan1o1 · Post #1596 » by **sunsfan1o1** » Thu May 4, 2023 10:58 pm

sunsbum wrote:
sunsfan1o1 wrote:Coach Bud is just as bad as Monty. There’s much better out there.

ridiculous. He won a championship in grand fashion.

That’s because he was coaching against someone just as dumb as him. Only difference he had Giannis who must’ve taken adderall cuz he couldn’t miss a free throw

sunsfan1o1 · Post #1597 » by **sunsfan1o1** » Thu May 4, 2023 10:59 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
sunsbum wrote:
sunsfan1o1 wrote:Coach Bud is just as bad as Monty. There’s much better out there.

ridiculous. He won a championship in grand fashion.
Yeah saying Bud or Monty is a 'bad' coach is pretty ridiculous. That's not to say teams don't need a change from time to time but both guys have been very successful coaches.

Fans love to hate their teams coach. It is what it is.

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Monty is horrible. I rank him bottom 5 of all head coaches in the league. He’s really bad

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1598 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu May 4, 2023 11:01 pm

sunsfan1o1 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
sunsbum wrote:ridiculous. He won a championship in grand fashion.
Yeah saying Bud or Monty is a 'bad' coach is pretty ridiculous. That's not to say teams don't need a change from time to time but both guys have been very successful coaches.

Fans love to hate their teams coach. It is what it is.

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Monty is horrible. I rank him bottom 5 of all head coaches in the league. He’s really bad

Well from your history of opinions that's probably a good sign for Monty.

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Post #1599 » by **bwgood77** » Thu May 4, 2023 11:05 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:It's a little tricky.

If it was a straight 'team option' then the whole thing would need to be picked up before Paul could be traded. But with Paul 'partial guarantee' I'm not sure how it works. You might be right that the 15 mil counts against the trade matching but I'm not sure because if that team decided to keep him then they would raise their cap number by an extra $15 mil and I'm not sure if they can do that.

In general the NBA closed the ability for teams to use trades to manipulate the cap.

Before they closed the loophole teams were giving guys fake years at the end of their deals then trying to flip them to over the tax teams who would then decline the options to get under the tax. Can't do that anymore
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Good points. I do wonder how that would work if the team were to pick up the option. Granted, the Suns are in a tough spot. If nothing can be done, and Ishbia can afford him - he might be a good third guard off the bench.
I think there's actually a chance CP just straight up retires after the season. He's turning 38 in May, his body is obviously failing him and dudes got kids at home and I'm sure he would have plenty of assistant coach or media jobs if he wants to stay around the game.

I'm not saying it's over 50% chance he retires but I don't think it's 0% either.

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Well in that case I assume he'd say "Don't feel bad if you don't guarantee my contract. If you don't, I get it."

sunsfan1o1 · Post #1600 » by **sunsfan1o1** » Thu May 4, 2023 11:15 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
sunsbum wrote:
sunsfan1o1 wrote:Coach Bud is just as bad as Monty. There’s much better out there.

ridiculous. He won a championship in grand fashion.
Yeah saying Bud or Monty is a 'bad' coach is pretty ridiculous. That's not to say teams don't need a change from time to time but both guys have been very successful coaches.

Fans love to hate their teams coach. It is what it is.

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Monty sucks. If you can’t see it good for you. Ignorance is bliss.