Bud Appreciation Thread

[otmshank1]

Roster context:

Giannis - all world, but also was out for three of the five games. No outside shooting ability like Steph, Jokic, Jimmy, Embiid, etc.
Middleton - great player, not in good shape and a turnstile on defense at this point.
Jrue - gave up large part of our future assets. Couldn’t hold Jimmy under 50 points, while chucking and turning it over.
Brook - whole league gave up on this guy. Signed for $3mm deal
Grayson - most of you don’t consider him in the top 60 guards in the league. And you might be right.

Sixth men:
Bobby - free agent cast off with an attitude, signed with $3mm deal
Pat - free agent cast off, signed to $1.8mm min deal

Bud took that core and coached them into a title. But according to some on twitter, we should have multiple “chips” with Giannis already.

Again, I get the firing. I just don’t get the trolls running around cheering wildly.

And yet they lost to Jimmy Butler, Kevin Love in a wheelchair, and a bunch of undrafted scrubs. The Bucks had the more talented roster, this one comes down to coaching.

[paulpressey25]

The Bucks had the more talented roster.

That’s my point. We way overrated this roster. We’ve got exactly two guys capable of taking over an NBA playoff game. Giannis and one-half Jrue and one-half Middleton at this point. And Giannis was out for three of the games.

For me it is a conundrum. Yes, Bud made coaching errors. At the same time, I’m not sure this roster has the success it did without him putting it in place.

[midranger]

Come on man.

We had 4 of the 5 best players out there. Bam is much closer to Portis than Brook. We probably had 8 of the 10 best players.

He had no answers to anything and our team wilted at the end because of it.

[Turk Nowitzki]

The Bucks had the more talented roster.

That’s my point. We way overrated this roster. We’ve got exactly two guys capable of taking over an NBA playoff game. Giannis and one-half Jrue and one-half Middleton at this point. And Giannis was out for three of the games.

For me it is a conundrum. Yes, Bud made coaching errors. At the same time, I’m not sure this roster has the success it did without him putting it in place.

I mean we were out here right before the playoffs championing Brook for DOPY, Bobby for 6th man, and seeing some media guys putting Jrue on their all NBA teams. It's pretty easy to reverse engineer a narrative after the fact. I think it's disingenuous at best.

[midranger]

Bucks only had 4 guys who have completely taken over playoff games in the past 2 years and the Heat had… um… Jimmy Butler.

Clearly we were completely outgunned by that bottom 5 offense.

If that’s the narrative you’re selling, I’m glad the Bucks weren’t buying. Thanks for installing the culture, the maturity, and coming along for the Championship. Best of luck at the next stop.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Come on man.

We had 4 of the 5 best players out there. Bam is much closer to Portis than Brook. We probably had 8 of the 10 best players.

He had no answers to anything and our team wilted at the end because of it.

we sucked before he got here because of how low iq/ limited our core is. he created a system that could bring the best out of them both individually and collectively. as pp broke down he rehabbed literally everybody in the rotation along with it.

but in the end the system broke down perhaps because of how simplistic it was. but if a wall can withstand the most powerful battering ram ever made you cant use the battering ram any other way. it is what it is. its not like theres "answers". if the battering ram doesnt work and you want to use a catapault then you have to move the battering ram out of the way.

it has nothing to do with the general. why did we replace the general.

[paulpressey25]

Come on man.

Look at the rosters of the teams that won more than one title since year 2000.

Tell me which franchise would want to switch out their roster for the 2023 Milwaukee Bucks.

[midranger]

“He rehabbed everyone. He turned a battering ram into an ineffective battering ram. Cool, cool, cool.”

[Ron Swanson]

Come on man.

We had 4 of the 5 best players out there. Bam is much closer to Portis than Brook. We probably had 8 of the 10 best players.

He had no answers to anything and our team wilted at the end because of it.

Lol, no. And I love Bobby.

[midranger]

Come on man.

Look at the rosters of the teams that won more than one title since year 2000.

Tell me which franchise would want to switch out their roster for the 2023 Milwaukee Bucks.

We played the 2023 Heat. I’d understand if we lost to the Shaq/Kobe Lakers or Heatles. We lost to the 2023 Heat. In 5. At home. Up 16 in the 4th.

That’s why he’s gone. Has nothing to do with some hypothetical matchup with dynasty teams.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

“He rehabbed everyone. He turned a battering ram into an ineffective battering ram. Cool, cool, cool.”

he won a title with westbrook man. he won a title with shaq in the years shaq didnt have a kobe or penny or dwade.

it was a hell of an achievement.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Come on man.

Look at the rosters of the teams that won more than one title since year 2000.

Tell me which franchise would want to switch out their roster for the 2023 Milwaukee Bucks.

We played the 2023 Heat. I’d understand if we lost to the Shaq/Kobe Lakers or Heatles. We lost to the 2023 Heat. In 5. At home. Up 16 in the 4th.

That’s why he’s gone. Has nothing to do with some hypothetical matchup with dynasty teams.

the heat were a team of tough, smart, hungry guys. 3 elements our guys had none of.

the idea we got outcoached is absurd.

[paulpressey25]

Come on man.

Look at the rosters of the teams that won more than one title since year 2000.

Tell me which franchise would want to switch out their roster for the 2023 Milwaukee Bucks.

We played the 2023 Heat. I’d understand if we lost to the Shaq/Kobe Lakers or Heatles. We lost to the 2023 Heat. In 5. At home. Up 16 in the 4th.

That’s why he’s gone. Has nothing to do with some hypothetical matchup with dynasty teams.

Not a matchup against dynasty teams. A comparison of rosters of those that won more than one title. Who swaps their rosters with our 2023 version?

[paulpressey25]

Look at the rosters of the teams that won more than one title since year 2000.

Tell me which franchise would want to switch out their roster for the 2023 Milwaukee Bucks.

We played the 2023 Heat. I’d understand if we lost to the Shaq/Kobe Lakers or Heatles. We lost to the 2023 Heat. In 5. At home. Up 16 in the 4th.

That’s why he’s gone. Has nothing to do with some hypothetical matchup with dynasty teams.

the heat were a team of tough, smart, hungry guys. 3 elements our guys had none of.

the idea we got outcoached is absurd.

Ok, so I’m with you on this with the roster stuff. But he did get outcoached in that series. Both can be true.

[midranger]

There are some real absurd machinations happening.

Bud had a great tenure here. The championship will always be remembered. Wish the guy all the best. On to the next. Unfortunately, we have a bottom tier roster lead by Russel Westbrook.

[midranger]

Look at the rosters of the teams that won more than one title since year 2000.

Tell me which franchise would want to switch out their roster for the 2023 Milwaukee Bucks.

We played the 2023 Heat. I’d understand if we lost to the Shaq/Kobe Lakers or Heatles. We lost to the 2023 Heat. In 5. At home. Up 16 in the 4th.

That’s why he’s gone. Has nothing to do with some hypothetical matchup with dynasty teams.

Not a matchup against dynasty teams. A comparison of rosters of those that won more than one title. Who swaps their rosters with our 2023 version?

Why does this matter at all? Different decades, different leagues. If Bud doesn’t crap his pants versus Nurse in 2019, we ARE one of those multiple title teams.

Going into the 2023 playoffs, with the goal of winning the 2023 title, what 2023 NBA team would you have traded rosters with on the eve of the 2023 playoffs? Certainly not the team we got embarrassed by in round 1. Maybe the Celtics? Maybe? We had a top 2, probably best roster, in the NBA and we played 5 playoff games.

Much more salient question.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

We played the 2023 Heat. I’d understand if we lost to the Shaq/Kobe Lakers or Heatles. We lost to the 2023 Heat. In 5. At home. Up 16 in the 4th.

That’s why he’s gone. Has nothing to do with some hypothetical matchup with dynasty teams.

the heat were a team of tough, smart, hungry guys. 3 elements our guys had none of.

the idea we got outcoached is absurd.

Ok, so I’m with you on this with the roster stuff. But he did get outcoached in that series. Both can be true.

my point was that whatever small indiscretions occurred it wasnt the difference

i should have said it along the lines of the reason we lost wasnt because of coaching. the same goes for the boston series the year before

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

There are some real absurd machinations happening.

Bud had a great tenure here. The championship will always be remembered. Wish the guy all the best. On to the next. Unfortunately, we have a bottom tier roster lead by Russel Westbrook.

bud could have been our jerry sloan. lets go look at his record and see if he ever had any first round exits

fact....bud was the 2nd most valuable asset on this franchise by an effing mile

[Turk Nowitzki]

Look at the rosters of the teams that won more than one title since year 2000.

Tell me which franchise would want to switch out their roster for the 2023 Milwaukee Bucks.

We played the 2023 Heat. I’d understand if we lost to the Shaq/Kobe Lakers or Heatles. We lost to the 2023 Heat. In 5. At home. Up 16 in the 4th.

That’s why he’s gone. Has nothing to do with some hypothetical matchup with dynasty teams.

Not a matchup against dynasty teams. A comparison of rosters of those that won more than one title. Who swaps their rosters with our 2023 version?

I don't understand what point you're trying to make here that's supposed to be insightful? That a team that's won multiple titles wouldn't be looking to trade rosters with our team that's won one title and just suffered one of the worst round 1 upsets ever? No ****, it's not a relevant question.

[midranger]

Nick Nurse in 2019: “one guy is completely destroying us, I’m going to put 4 guys in front of him and make everyone else beat us”

Bud in 2023: “one guy is completely destroying us…I got nothing”