Lillard: I don't want to be a part of a rebuild.

[Brandon-Clyde]

The Nets won't trade Bridges or Claxton. Anyone else likely can be had.

Then you’re not getting Lillard.

I do not necessarily believe that is true and either do you.

This trade only happens if a) Lillard forces his way out and b) POR wants to rebuild.

You can't tell me POR doesn't take a young stud scorer in Cam Thomas, Simmons, and multiple 1sts for Lillard at 33 when he wants out. They would IF they want to rebuild.

Portland already has Anfernee Simons who scored more on better percentages so why would the Blazers place any value on Thomas? And how much is Simmons owed the next two seasons? Seems like it would take a couple firsts to offload him for less bad contracts. If you want an all NBA player prepare a sizable offer or forget it.

[HoopsFanAZ]

I get the trade Lillard ideas even though he’s NOT LMA. Losing him for nothing isn’t happening.
IF AND ONLY IF plan B or C rolls around and Lillard is to be traded, then it’s to a good team that has a younger, excellent player back to Portland.

Boston: Jaylen Brown + Payton Pritchard + more. Dame and Tatum is better.
Brown + Ant + Sharpe + Grant + the Lottery Pick is … pretty dang good. Watchable. Opens the window. With other moves to re-work the bench and the 5 spot … and I don’t hate it.

Keeping Dame is my first choice. Get one of them. Pay up. DDR < OG < Siakam < Bridges < Brown.
Dame, Sharpe, a Dude, Grant is most of the way there.

[BlazersBroncos]

DDR < OG < Siakam < Bridges < Brown

I am not convinced any of those 1 guys puts into the conversation.

What I personally think is the best hedge is going the cheap routs and doing Simons + 23 for DDR + Pick Returned. Or even better, if CHI wants to go young, Simons + Little + Knox + 23 for DDR + Caruso + PDX Pick Returned.

Then you use our high LP and hope to strike gold + hope Sharpe takes a big step next year.

DDR clearly gives us a dimension we have not seen in quite a long time as a forward that can be our secondary distributor.

Take a glance at the advanced metrics of DDR vs, say, Pascal. Its hard to convince me to take the Siakiam route when the difference between cost is likely our LP and another future FRP IMO.

The hedge route for example could leave us w/ this roster -

G - Damian Lillard / Alex Caruso / Keon Johnson
G - Alex Caruso / Shadeon Sharpe / (Matisse Thybulle)
F - Demar DeRozan / Matisse Thybulle / #43
F - Jerami Grant / Jarace Walker (5) / Jabari Walker JR
C - Jusuf Nurkic / Drew Eubanks / Trendon Watford

Not flashy but I think its a pretty well rounded team. You have 3 20PPG guys all well sized for their positions (No more mini me backcourt), tons of plus defenders, good enough shooting, alot of hustle, 2 high upside long-term guys in SS and Jarace, and we regain all our future FRP rights.

[HoopsFanAZ]

DDR < OG < Siakam < Bridges < Brown

I am not convinced any of those 1 guys puts into the conversation.

What I personally think is the best hedge is going the cheap routs and doing Simons + 23 for DDR + Pick Returned. Or even better, if CHI wants to go young, Simons + Little + Knox + 23 for DDR + Caruso + PDX Pick Returned.
Then you use our high LP and hope to strike gold + hope Sharpe takes a big step next year.
DDR clearly gives us a dimension we have not seen in quite a long time as a forward that can be our secondary distributor.

Take a glance at the advanced metrics of DDR vs, say, Pascal. Its hard to convince me to take the Siakiam route when the difference between cost is likely our LP and another future FRP IMO.
The hedge route for example could leave us w/ this roster -

G - Damian Lillard / Alex Caruso / Keon Johnson
G - Alex Caruso / Shadeon Sharpe / (Matisse Thybulle)
F - Demar DeRozan / Matisse Thybulle / #43
F - Jerami Grant / Jarace Walker (5) / Jabari Walker JR
C - Jusuf Nurkic / Drew Eubanks / Trendon Watford

Not flashy but I think its a pretty well rounded team. You have 3 20PPG guys all well sized for their positions (No more mini me backcourt), tons of plus defenders, good enough shooting, alot of hustle, 2 high upside long-term guys in SS and Jarace, and we regain all our future FRP rights.

I’m NOT going to disagree with you. Maybe change it a bit? Chicago lacks more than Portland, IMHO, so rebuilding young is for them. DDR is better than Simons, now, even though he isn’t a 3pt guy or a big time/plus defender. And he’ll be 34 with Simons at 24. He’s better for Portland, and a SF. And the since the Blazers keep the lottery pick, they kinda of bring in vets AND build young. I’d hope with Ant’s youth, they could pay off the owed pick with some 2nd rounders and use the 23rd on an athletic BIG. Toss in Nas.

I do like getting Caruso. He’s useful. Your approach works. Would the team be better spending future draft capital for a younger, stud SF? Siakam? Maybe. Bridges? For me, yes.

[BlazersBroncos]

I’d hope with Ant’s youth, they could pay off the owed pick with some 2nd rounders and use the 23rd on an athletic BIG. Toss in Nas.

That would be ideal, and more likely if we dont add the Caruso for Nas swap IMO. But Simons may have more value than I believe, and if that is the case then who knows.

I do like getting Caruso. He’s useful. Your approach works. Would the team be better spending future draft capital for a younger, stud SF? Siakam? Maybe. Bridges? For me, yes.

I too would move our FRP for Bridges, but why does BRK do that? Yes, a upper lotto pick is super valuable. But BRK doesnt own their future FRP, so they would have to LOVE someone to move off Bridges and go young / tank.

[JKiddy]

Then you’re not getting Lillard.

I do not necessarily believe that is true and either do you.

This trade only happens if a) Lillard forces his way out and b) POR wants to rebuild.

You can't tell me POR doesn't take a young stud scorer in Cam Thomas, Simmons, and multiple 1sts for Lillard at 33 when he wants out. They would IF they want to rebuild.

I actually do believe it, they wouldn’t do that. I believe Lillard will have multiple teams he will be willing to goto that the team can negotiate with.

If your whole goal here is to come on another teams board and tell them they have to accept a **** trade for their star player and to deal with it, please feel free to pound sand and gtfo.

I have nothing against you. I have nothing against Portland. I come in peace. I just had to deal with this situation with two of our stars.

The only way I see him coming to Brooklyn is if he privately or publicly (likely privately) says he wants to go to BK. This is similar to the second time Durant wanted to be traded. The Nets accommodated his wishes and he only gave the Nets a few seasons. Imagine if Dame did that in POR. He played so much longer and gave them so much more.

That is the only way it happens. If it does it is likely a 3 team deal. I have no clue who would be attached. I do not work inside of either of these teams and I am assuming neither do most of the people on the POR board. We can say our wishes and predictions. But, we do not know what would be included.

I can assume Dame would not want to go to BK if they lost Mikal. We all know if the trade occurs Bridges would stay in BK. We can potentially assume Dame would say he wants to play with Claxton too.

A ton of picks would be coming to POR. I do not know which players would join them. POR has a few options. A few players might change teams before this trade and/or after/during the deal. There are too many moving parts.

What I can say is that Dame is a helluva player. Some frown on the 33 year old thing. He is getting older. But, he just did have his best year. He might have 3-4 great years in him. He deserves a chance at a title. I hope it is in BK. If not, I hope he finds somewhere he can get to the Finals.

[Case2012]

Why not win in Portland like he stated 5000000 times he wants to. We have young pieces, we have a top 5 pick potentially, we have a few decent contracts to match salaries, we can get control of our picks back pretty easily by trading the NY pick to Chicago. There's almost zero reason we can't get a team together around Dame that can compete for a championship. The only fears I have about their ability is ownership and management. The tools are there but I don't trust the people in charge to do it necessarily after seeing the moves made since Paul passed on. Still, that seems to be the plan so we'll see what they do.

It would probably help if there was some championship level coaches available as well.

[JKiddy]

I think Simmons + Simons would be lethal.

You heard it here first.

[Village Idiot]

I think Simmons + Simons would be lethal.

You heard it here first.

Simons and #5 for Bridges and the #21?

[JKiddy]

I don't think BK would like that deal. Something tells me.... But, hey we can say anything and all ideas are welcome on RealGM!

[BlazersBroncos]

That deal could be nice for BRK if they owned their own future FRPs. I dont see a reason to move off Bridges to go young and quasi-tank when your future is controlled by another team.

I would be shocked if Mikal is traded for anything less than #2 (IE Scoot) - not saying #1 b/c no team is moving Vic for Mikal.

[Village Idiot]

I don't think BK would like that deal. Something tells me.... But, hey we can say anything and all ideas are welcome on RealGM!

I thought you said that pairing would be lethal

[PDXKnight]

I don't think BK would like that deal. Something tells me.... But, hey we can say anything and all ideas are welcome on RealGM!

If we take out 21 and add the NYK pick I think it's closer but still probably not enough. If that number 5 magically turned into 2 I bet that offer becomes quite a bit more lucrative. Who knows though bkn doesn't have much incentive to lose so keeping the best win now piece may be what they want aka keeping bridges

[Case2012]

Rather go all in for Giannis

[JKiddy]

I don't think BK would like that deal. Something tells me.... But, hey we can say anything and all ideas are welcome on RealGM!

I thought you said that pairing would be lethal

I like you. Your name suits you well. Your trolling is sweet on a Saturday.

[GEE]

In regards to Dame wanting to play with Claxton, I think it could be just as likely if not more so, that Dame might request having Nurkic to play with in BRK. I also see Dame being the ALPHA in BRK (where he can't really be anywhere else) as the deciding factor along with being able to play with two buddies on a fairly playoff ready team as it currently stands, plus BKN could always look for additional moves once Dame is brought in. And finally, I also think that the pure swap of Nurkic and Simmons, on it's own, talent for talent for both teams, is worth exploring. What I'm saying is, regardless of salary matching, when I look at this trade idea I see it much simpler, like a math problem, if one just considers Nurkic and Simmons a wash. Look at the below without Nurkic and Simmons names in there, and that basicly is the trade.

Dame / Nurkic <<<--->>> Simmons / Dinwiddie / Claxton / 3FRPs + 2 Swaps... That I think is the deal IF Dame wants to leave Portland.

[GTR11]

That deal could be nice for BRK if they owned their own future FRPs. I dont see a reason to move off Bridges to go young and quasi-tank when your future is controlled by another team.

I would be shocked if Mikal is traded for anything less than #2 (IE Scoot) - not saying #1 b/c no team is moving Vic for Mikal.

That's the only way you guys can get Bridges, and on the low I cheer for it to happen. We will get some more assets along and will trade with Magic/Mavs to get Hendricks too.

Marks collecting assets and looking for select players who in their mid 20's. He did it from day one once he got hired, he was doing it past summer during KD trade request. Brown, Ingram and Barnes were constent talk. We ended up with Bridges and CamJ. See the pattern, that's how Marks roll.

Marks has blank check and couple years to work with. He pretty much said there will be no rush decisions made. So it's more up to you guys how Dame situation going to end up. Me, you can see on our board what I think about Dame and his contract. With this new CBA kicking in, I'm not willing to give y'all jack sh** but couple expirings in Din and Joe. More interested getting 2nd overall ( Scoot ) than sending anything out for 33 year old.

[Norm2953]

Hopefully Portland won't be so fixated on Bridges that we'll see a repeat of the Maurice Lucas + 2 FRP
trade for Calvin Natt trade

[DeBlazerRiddem]

I don't think BK would like that deal. Something tells me.... But, hey we can say anything and all ideas are welcome on RealGM!

I thought you said that pairing would be lethal

I like you. Your name suits you well. Your trolling is sweet on a Saturday.

You are the one coming over here to the Blazer board and dreaming up sweet-heart deals for the Nets on the off chance Lillard demands to specifically go to your home team so... what is the saying, something about casting the first stone at the mote in your brothers eye? I was never one for parables but come on now if anyone is the troll right now it is you.

I was leaning to let it go but you had to go ahead and bring up the T-word, makes me think your subconscious betrays you. Lets just say you stop trying to insult our posters here (regardless of how clever you think you were being LOL) and we can all continue the discussion.

[GEE]

That deal could be nice for BRK if they owned their own future FRPs. I dont see a reason to move off Bridges to go young and quasi-tank when your future is controlled by another team.

I would be shocked if Mikal is traded for anything less than #2 (IE Scoot) - not saying #1 b/c no team is moving Vic for Mikal.

That's the only way you guys can get Bridges, and on the low I cheer for it to happen. We will get some more assets along and will trade with Magic/Mavs to get Hendricks too.

Marks collecting assets and looking for select players who in their mid 20's. He did it from day one once he got hired, he was doing it past summer during KD trade request. Brown, Ingram and Barnes were constent talk. We ended up with Bridges and CamJ. See the pattern, that's how Marks roll.

Marks has blank check and couple years to work with. He pretty much said there will be no rush decisions made. So it's more up to you guys how Dame situation going to end up. Me, you can see on our board what I think about Dame and his contract. With this new CBA kicking in, I'm not willing to give y'all jack sh** but couple expirings in Din and Joe. More interested getting 2nd overall ( Scoot ) than sending anything out for 33 year old.

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On a completely unrelated note... Did anyone else see Dame sitting courtside at the Suns game? How many other current NBA players were also courtside... I counted zero. Interestig optics, is all I'm saying.