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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#581 » by Jay555 » Sat May 6, 2023 12:07 pm

We are the only underdog home teams out of all semi finals.

Lakers Fav at home
Suns Fav at home
Heat Fav at home
Celtics Fav away from home for G3 and G4 as well

Vegas knows we are not on the same level as them. It’s showing.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#582 » by Bum Adebayo » Sat May 6, 2023 12:09 pm

Unfortunately I don't think there is a way to significantly improve the roster, I would personally trade Embiid if only to help him to get in a better situation, this team is clearly capped, we will max Maxey soon and it will be a huge mistake again, yeah for RS it will be fine but **** RS it's all about playoffs.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#583 » by Jay555 » Sat May 6, 2023 12:10 pm

76ciology wrote:guards needs fast pace.
biid needs slow pace.



Exactly. There is a reason Biid has a horrible winning % vs Celtics. It’s just a match up issue which can not be fixed.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#584 » by elchengue20 » Sat May 6, 2023 12:41 pm

Im sorry but its time to blow this up and start a new process.
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Post#585 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sat May 6, 2023 1:00 pm

elchengue20 wrote:Im sorry but its time to blow this up and start a new process.


Yeah totally...I mean the team won 50+ games this year and finished just a game or two from having the best record in the league. Definitely need to tear it down and rebuild. Complete overhaul.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#586 » by Bum Adebayo » Sat May 6, 2023 1:07 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
elchengue20 wrote:Im sorry but its time to blow this up and start a new process.


Yeah totally...I mean the team won 50+ games this year and finished just a game or two from having the best record in the league. Definitely need to tear it down and rebuild. Complete overhaul.


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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#587 » by elchengue20 » Sat May 6, 2023 1:24 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
elchengue20 wrote:Im sorry but its time to blow this up and start a new process.


Yeah totally...I mean the team won 50+ games this year and finished just a game or two from having the best record in the league. Definitely need to tear it down and rebuild. Complete overhaul.


You right, lets keep winning 50 games and get bounced in the 2nd round, its so fun.

Anyway we can rebuild when Embiid has 35 and no trade value earning 50M a year, its going to be a fast process. Also lets Max Harden and Maxey lets go baby we got this.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#588 » by Jailblazers7 » Sat May 6, 2023 1:55 pm

Harden is just not good enough offensively to make up for his defensive bad habits anymore. I don’t want to hear a word about his desire to win or sacrifices he’s made because he still can’t be bothered to give even a decent effort on defense.

Maxey has been getting good shots but they aren’t falling. I think he’s just a little too young & this team needs him a little too much.

We had every chance to win that game but Harden & Maxey couldn’t hit the ocean from the beach. I still think we can win this series but it’s gonna require our two perimeter stars to shine.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#589 » by eyeatoma » Sat May 6, 2023 2:09 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:Unfortunately I don't think there is a way to significantly improve the roster, I would personally trade Embiid if only to help him to get in a better situation, this team is clearly capped, we will max Maxey soon and it will be a huge mistake again, yeah for RS it will be fine but **** RS it's all about playoffs.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#590 » by Ferry Avenue » Sat May 6, 2023 2:09 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:Harden is just not good enough offensively to make up for his defensive bad habits anymore. I don’t want to hear a word about his desire to win or sacrifices he’s made because he still can’t be bothered to give even a decent effort on defense.

Maxey has been getting good shots but they aren’t falling. I think he’s just a little too young & this team needs him a little too much.

We had every chance to win that game but Harden & Maxey couldn’t hit the ocean from the beach. I still think we can win this series but it’s gonna require our two perimeter stars to shine.

That's indeed what's needed, but it's a tall order because both players are subject to wide variation in their performance. Getting both of them to perform well for several games in a row is fairly unlikely.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#591 » by GoSixersBro » Sat May 6, 2023 2:12 pm

Bum Adebayo is 100% correct here.

This is the same symptom we saw from a large portion of the fan base during the regular seasons of 2018-2021.

i.e. Ben Simmons posts nearly 30 point triple doubles against the Knicks in November. Why would we trade him?!

A lot of Philly fans aren't used to the Sixers' success because they tuned out for 15 years. Seeing 50 wins and some little fancy 1-3 seed means jack ****.

There are fake contenders every single season with 2-3 actual contenders. The Sixers have never been an actual contender since 2001, and even then were they really?
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#592 » by mjkvol » Sat May 6, 2023 2:21 pm

Zumramania wrote:I think it's impossible to win a title with Doc Rivers. We were not that far away from the Celtics. I think Doc sucks both in boosting confidence of players in most important games and making adjustments. If we see these things, you can imagine what the players may think. When push comes to shove, Doc is an loser and this is where it all starts.


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I know I've been beating the drum incessantly to remove him for the last two years, but if it's not crystal clear to everyone at this point that the man does not have the creativity or imagination to overcome any situation where he can't out-talent an opponent, I don't know what more it will take.

The Celtics aren't much better than we are, but they nearly always win the in-game adjustments and rotations, even with a marginal coach like Muzzula. They seem to know they're better, and they play that way, with an arrogance that we don't possess. That comes from leadership, both on the roster and definitely from the coach, setting an example and having accountability.

Glenn's method of accountability is throwing players under the bus to the media to shield himself from any blame, and I expect to see just that if the Sixers do indeed lose this series. At some point there has to be a recognition that his plan isn't working and that a change might be the best path instead of yet another roster makeover. Hell, the Bucks are two years removed from a title and had the best record in the league but saw that Bud had maxed out there, and he had plenty of excuses over the last couple of seasons with all the injuries.

If this plays out as it appears it will, it's time for a change at the top instead of full scale roster surgery. I'd like to run it back one time with a fresh approach before tearing the whole damn thing down.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#593 » by Jailblazers7 » Sat May 6, 2023 2:21 pm

The Sixers are the Dirk Mavs. We just have to keep making incremental progress roster building & bank on continued improvement from Embiid. We’re never gonna be the favorite because we made too many bad decisions during the Colangelo years.

But I don’t think you can throw away a punchers chance at a title while you still have a franchise legend playing at his peak. If we blow it up, it could take 10 years to even get back to the level we’re at now.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#594 » by GoSixersBro » Sat May 6, 2023 2:23 pm

76ciology wrote:Btw, we have to figure out whats wrong with Harden and Maxey.

Lets be constructive


My honest take (and people may get upset because of an MVP trophy) their ability and rhythm are hindered playing with Embiid trodding down the court and waiting for him to catch the ball at the top of the key. We got to see the other end of the spectrum in Game 1 where everything was fast and loose.

Boston is also elite at guarding the Harden-Embiid pick and roll (more like dump). Why are we still trying that?

Maxey is useless standing on a wing. That's not his game.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#595 » by youngcrev » Sat May 6, 2023 2:26 pm

Too many backbreaking second chances. Beyond the Celtics out hustling them for rebounds, it just seems like every deflection we get goes directly to them somehow and turns a good defensive possession into an easy look.

But really, you can't win with Harden playing like this. He talked all that **** after game 1 about "I can still do this, it's just my role is different" and then you follow it up with 2 straight clunkers? The **** man. It's not like we need a game 1 performance. Just show up. "This is it... Don't get scared now."

This game was only as close as it was because the refs were actually giving us some regular season calls. If this was in Boston it would have been another blowout.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#596 » by mjkvol » Sat May 6, 2023 2:27 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:Harden is just not good enough offensively to make up for his defensive bad habits anymore. I don’t want to hear a word about his desire to win or sacrifices he’s made because he still can’t be bothered to give even a decent effort on defense.

Maxey has been getting good shots but they aren’t falling. I think he’s just a little too young & this team needs him a little too much.

We had every chance to win that game but Harden & Maxey couldn’t hit the ocean from the beach. I still think we can win this series but it’s gonna require our two perimeter stars to shine.


Truth. This game was lost by Harden and Maxey's lack of production, but also by being beaten in the intangibles - the loose balls and offensive rebounds the Celtics seemed to get whenever they needed them. Even decent production by the guards and better work on the defensive boards would have won this game.

But it always seems to be one thing or another against BOS, doesn't it? The problem is that we have to play nearly perfectly and have our A-game to beat them, but they can win games like last night where they were ripe to be had but just wanted it more.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#597 » by youngcrev » Sat May 6, 2023 2:28 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:The Sixers are the Dirk Mavs. We just have to keep making incremental progress roster building & bank on continued improvement from Embiid. We’re never gonna be the favorite because we made too many bad decisions during the Colangelo years.

But I don’t think you can throw away a punchers chance at a title while you still have a franchise legend playing at his peak. If we blow it up, it could take 10 years to even get back to the level we’re at now.


People say dumb **** when they're emotional/frustrated.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#598 » by mjkvol » Sat May 6, 2023 2:31 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:The Sixers are the Dirk Mavs. We just have to keep making incremental progress roster building & bank on continued improvement from Embiid. We’re never gonna be the favorite because we made too many bad decisions during the Colangelo years.

But I don’t think you can throw away a punchers chance at a title while you still have a franchise legend playing at his peak. If we blow it up, it could take 10 years to even get back to the level we’re at now.


Agree completely except there must be a coaching change. This has become the definition of insanity, the same plan over and over expecting some sort of miraculous change. It ain't working with Rivers, and it never will.
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Post#599 » by youngcrev » Sat May 6, 2023 2:31 pm

Maxey is pretty elite at attacking an off balance defense, playing off the gravity of Harden and Embiid. That kinda falls apart when Harden goes into his shell and you ask him to be the focal point. He doesn't have a prayer against Tatum one-on-one in an iso.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#600 » by Bum Adebayo » Sat May 6, 2023 2:31 pm

Another unfortunate issue is that Embiid kinda sucks at 3pt shooting, with his shooting touch it would've been amazing if he had a better 3pt shot, the offense could've been much better with him becoming more of an outside shooter and making the offense faster, and he could just maintain better stamina during the game.

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