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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#601 » by Jailblazers7 » Sat May 6, 2023 2:34 pm

The sequence of the night to me was 5 mins left in the 3rd down 2 and Sixers have the ball. Embiid is trailing the break and Horford is giving him 15 feet of space. Embiid calls for the ball & absolutely hits the go ahead 3 imo.

But instead, Harden ignores him because he thinks he has a mismatch with Grant Williams guarding him. Step back 3, brick.

Celtics come down the court, Horford hits a 3 and we never got close again. The fact that Harden didn’t get Embiid the ball on that possession on the night he won’t the f*cking MVP is inexcusable.
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Post#602 » by mjkvol » Sat May 6, 2023 2:35 pm

youngcrev wrote:Too many backbreaking second chances. Beyond the Celtics out hustling them for rebounds, it just seems like every deflection we get goes directly to them somehow and turns a good defensive possession into an easy look.


This was the most distressing part of the loss to me. Guys not shooting well is one thing, but loose balls and rebounding come down to effort and wanting it more than anything else, and have nothing to do with schemes, rotations, officiating, or anything else. The Celtics wanted the game more, and on a night where they were ripe to be had, they took it.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#603 » by mjkvol » Sat May 6, 2023 2:38 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:The sequence of the night to me was 5 mins left in the 3rd down 2 and Sixers have the ball. Embiid is trailing the break and Horford is giving him 15 feet of space. Embiid calls for the ball & absolutely hits the go ahead 3 imo.

But instead, Harden ignores him because he thinks he has a mismatch with Grant Williams guarding him. Step back 3, brick.

Celtics come down the court, Horford hits a 3 and we never got close again. The fact that Harden didn’t get Embiid the ball on that possession on the night he won’t the f*cking MVP is inexcusable.


Can't agree there. The whole MVP thing is irrelevant once the game starts, and Harden had the kind of mismatch that he thrives on, he just missed the shot. I'll take Harden shooting a step back 3 to any Embiid 3 all day, every day. He made the right decision IMO but didn't execute.
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Post#604 » by phillynative » Sat May 6, 2023 2:58 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:Another unfortunate issue is that Embiid kinda sucks at 3pt shooting, with his shooting touch it would've been amazing if he had a better 3pt shot, the offense could've been much better with him becoming more of an outside shooter and making the offense faster, and he could just maintain better stamina during the game.


That's not his game. Morey should of found a way to bring in kevin love. I think in today's game you have to have bigs that can either stretch the floor or are lob threats on offense to open up the lane for peremiter players. Ofcourse the sixers have neither.
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Post#605 » by phillynative » Sat May 6, 2023 3:02 pm

mjkvol wrote:
Jailblazers7 wrote:The sequence of the night to me was 5 mins left in the 3rd down 2 and Sixers have the ball. Embiid is trailing the break and Horford is giving him 15 feet of space. Embiid calls for the ball & absolutely hits the go ahead 3 imo.

But instead, Harden ignores him because he thinks he has a mismatch with Grant Williams guarding him. Step back 3, brick.

Celtics come down the court, Horford hits a 3 and we never got close again. The fact that Harden didn’t get Embiid the ball on that possession on the night he won’t the f*cking MVP is inexcusable.


Can't agree there. The whole MVP thing is irrelevant once the game starts, and Harden had the kind of mismatch that he thrives on, he just missed the shot. I'll take Harden shooting a step back 3 to any Embiid 3 all day, every day. He made the right decision IMO but didn't execute.


I disagree Embiid was in a rhythm and Harden wasn't. Harden was looking to get himself in the game at the moment but he just didn't have it. Everytime Harden bricks a stepback 3 at the top its a easy leak out for the celtics.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#606 » by youngcrev » Sat May 6, 2023 3:29 pm

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youngcrev wrote:Too many backbreaking second chances. Beyond the Celtics out hustling them for rebounds, it just seems like every deflection we get goes directly to them somehow and turns a good defensive possession into an easy look.


This was the most distressing part of the loss to me. Guys not shooting well is one thing, but loose balls and rebounding come down to effort and wanting it more than anything else, and have nothing to do with schemes, rotations, officiating, or anything else. The Celtics wanted the game more, and on a night where they were ripe to be had, they took it.


I want to say BBall Paul... But our spacing has been awful as it is since Jo came back, and that's one more guy to double off of.

We need a "PJ game", but I suspect he's been playing hurt since rolling his ankle. I think he went back for treatment midgame. He just won't repeatedly remind you about it or draw attention to it...
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#607 » by youngcrev » Sat May 6, 2023 3:31 pm

Hey, remember that time Jo jumped on Grant Williams head? That **** was kinda crazy. Like, "guy falling out of the stands into the dugout" crazy
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Post#608 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sat May 6, 2023 3:52 pm

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elchengue20 wrote:Im sorry but its time to blow this up and start a new process.


Yeah totally...I mean the team won 50+ games this year and finished just a game or two from having the best record in the league. Definitely need to tear it down and rebuild. Complete overhaul.


You right, lets keep winning 50 games and get bounced in the 2nd round, its so fun.

Anyway we can rebuild when Embiid has 35 and no trade value earning 50M a year, its going to be a fast process. Also lets Max Harden and Maxey lets go baby we got this.


Hold up bro.... I don't think we should max Harden.
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Post#609 » by 76ciology » Sat May 6, 2023 4:04 pm


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Post#610 » by 76ciology » Sat May 6, 2023 4:05 pm


Tyrese “troy hudson 2.0” Maxey

We need this type of performance of his kind

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Post#611 » by mjkvol » Sat May 6, 2023 5:12 pm

76ciology wrote:
Tyrese “troy hudson 2.0” Maxey

We need this type of performance of his kind



Funny how you incessantly hammer away on Maxey, but the only clips you post from your boy Tobi are the inane ones where someone is actually trying to sell him as a playoff performer.

The only rationale there is that no one really expects anything from Mr. $38 Million and anything we get is a bonus.
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Post#612 » by Iverson Armband » Sat May 6, 2023 5:32 pm

mjkvol wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Tyrese “troy hudson 2.0” Maxey

We need this type of performance of his kind



Funny how you incessantly hammer away on Maxey, but the only clips you post from your boy Tobi are the inane ones where someone is actually trying to sell him as a playoff performer.

The only rationale there is that no one really expects anything from Mr. $38 Million and anything we get is a bonus.

Is this Vol on Vol crime? :D
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Post#613 » by FireMorey » Sat May 6, 2023 6:00 pm

Anyone moving more toward my idea that if they drop this series they should blow it up this summer?

I still implore anyone to give me a specific plan that could get the Sixers over the hump with their current position.

The only rebuttals I see are "They're still a good team so let's see what happens next year" which isn't an actual plan it's just hope.

Realistically what players could they add in the summer to make them a team that can win a title?

I think people don't have the stomach for another rebuild so they'll just keep going "Not ready to blow it up this year, let's see what happens next year" over and over until Embiid starts to decline, you can't get anything for him in trade, and then everyone will be like "Crap, we just wasted this guy's career, should've traded him when we could've gotten a haul for him and at least he could've maybe won a title somewhere else."
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Post#614 » by Negrodamus » Sat May 6, 2023 6:09 pm

If we lose this series, then a lot will hinge on if Harden wants to go to Houston this summer.
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Post#615 » by Bum Adebayo » Sat May 6, 2023 6:11 pm

FireMorey wrote:Anyone moving more toward my idea that if they drop this series they should blow it up this summer?

I still implore anyone to give me a specific plan that could get the Sixers over the hump with their current position.

The only rebuttals I see are "They're still a good team so let's see what happens next year" which isn't an actual plan it's just hope.

Realistically what players could they add in the summer to make them a team that can win a title?

I think people don't have the stomach for another rebuild so they'll just keep going "Not ready to blow it up this year, let's see what happens next year" over and over until Embiid starts to decline, you can't get anything for him in trade, and then everyone will be like "Crap, we just wasted this guy's career, should've traded him when we could've gotten a haul for him and at least he could've maybe won a title somewhere else."


All you will hear is "run it back" and "make incremental changes".
There is no path, James Soften will be a year older and even worse next year, Maxey is very overrated on this board, even though he is a very useful player in the right situation (6th man and paid accordingly), Harris is decent but way overpaid. Embiid is our superstar, but kinda unfortunate that his game is more suited to previous eras and not this **** 3pt spamming era where his defense is less effective and his offense less appreciated.
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Post#616 » by Mik317 » Sat May 6, 2023 6:26 pm

Whining about blowing it up is pointless because unless Biid asks out it’s not happening

Josh Harris isn’t going to give up that playoff money, the jersey sales and everything that comes from being a contender fake or not

It’s a waste of time to keep asking for it imo

So all we can do is hope that one of the attempts to build around him leads to more success. The bottom line is that all of the mistakes made in the past makes it so we don’t have any avenue to make any moves that will make us lock chip team and blowing it up also isn’t the answer if only because do you think this franchise who has made nothing but poor choice after poor choice is going to make the right choices then?

But by all means go ahead I could finally stop giving a **** and move on with my life for a bit lol
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Post#617 » by Embiid P » Sat May 6, 2023 6:29 pm

Negrodamus wrote:If we lose this series, then a lot will hinge on if Harden wants to go to Houston this summer.


Agreed. Personally, if Harden wants to go to Houston or anywhere else, I think Morey should try to work on a sign and trade to get something (IDK what exactly) in return for him. If that is not possible and given that we'll still be over the cap if he walks thus effectively punting another season of Embiid's prime, it may be time to trade the big fella.
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Post#618 » by FireMorey » Sat May 6, 2023 6:33 pm

Mik317 wrote:Whining about blowing it up is pointless because unless Biid asks out it’s not happening

Josh Harris isn’t going to give up that playoff money, the jersey sales and everything that comes from being a contender fake or not

It’s a waste of time to keep asking for it imo

So all we can do is hope that one of the attempts to build around him leads to more success. The bottom line is that all of the mistakes made in the past makes it so we don’t have any avenue to make any moves that will make us lock chip team and blowing it up also isn’t the answer if only because do you think this franchise who has made nothing but poor choice after poor choice is going to make the right choices then?

But by all means go ahead I could finally stop giving a **** and move on with my life for a bit lol


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Post#619 » by mjkvol » Sat May 6, 2023 6:58 pm

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mjkvol wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Tyrese “troy hudson 2.0” Maxey

We need this type of performance of his kind



Funny how you incessantly hammer away on Maxey, but the only clips you post from your boy Tobi are the inane ones where someone is actually trying to sell him as a playoff performer.

The only rationale there is that no one really expects anything from Mr. $38 Million and anything we get is a bonus.

Is this Vol on Vol crime? :D


I think I've blocked out the fact he played at UT. I loved Grant Williams as a Vol, and it killed me he was drafted by Boston, as I knew he was going to be a solid pro. He actually landed in the perfect spot, though.
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Re: R2G3 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 5 7:30pm ET ESPN 

Post#620 » by elchengue20 » Sat May 6, 2023 7:01 pm

FireMorey wrote:Anyone moving more toward my idea that if they drop this series they should blow it up this summer?

I still implore anyone to give me a specific plan that could get the Sixers over the hump with their current position.

The only rebuttals I see are "They're still a good team so let's see what happens next year" which isn't an actual plan it's just hope.

Realistically what players could they add in the summer to make them a team that can win a title?

I think people don't have the stomach for another rebuild so they'll just keep going "Not ready to blow it up this year, let's see what happens next year" over and over until Embiid starts to decline, you can't get anything for him in trade, and then everyone will be like "Crap, we just wasted this guy's career, should've traded him when we could've gotten a haul for him and at least he could've maybe won a title somewhere else."


I mean, i understand people that leans towards still try to win when you have a top 5 player in the NBA, but i just dont see it.

Harden is old and has always been a playoff choker. We don't have real assets to improve the roster. Embiid is great but is phisically and emotionally unrealiable, he cant lead your team to a championship. Also im starting to think also his game its hard to build around in this era.

Lets not ignore the elephant in the room, Embiid is a giant with health issues, it woudnt be shocking if he starts to decline in 2-3 years. People acts like we have a 8 year window of Embiid's prime.

If someone has a realistic plan to improve this roster and turn it into a real contender for the next 2-3 years, sure, but i dont think that option its there anymore. The only thing that comes to mind is somewhat getting Dame and a couple of ring chasers role players.

Its sad but best option looks like is to blow this up if you can get an even better deal for Biid than the Ruby Gobert to Minny deal.

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